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Nothing makes me want to be unkind more than that fucking "Be Kind" mantra!

105 replies

A580Hojas · 22/10/2022 12:54

I am not an unkind person so I don't need it shoved down my throat.

I'm sick of seeing it on Mumsnet too. If you think someone has posted in a manner that breaks talk guidelines then just report them. Don't yap "be kind" all over the thread.

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Georgeskitchen · 22/10/2022 16:25

Yep it possessions me.off too. I've been the victim of the be kind shit on more than one occasion. Basically translates as you must be kind to this particular individual who has free reign to behave like a twat to everyone else because they "have an issue"

Georgeskitchen · 22/10/2022 16:26

*pisses me.off 🤣

FrippEnos · 22/10/2022 16:39

user1471538283 · 22/10/2022 16:24

My revolting ex neighbor was big on the "be kind" mantra and weeping over Caroline Flack. On social media obviously, not real life.

In real life she and her husband were vile. Loud music, shouting, bitching about everyone, banging about.

And lets not forget one of the main supports of this version is Leigh Francis whose show destroyed a man's career with his black face impressions of him.

JudgeJ · 22/10/2022 16:44

RandomMusings7 · 22/10/2022 13:06

It's aimed mostly at women. Let's not pretend otherwise

Only because it gets trotted out on this site as a shut-down phrase and as the site is predominently women then that's the erroneous impression you have, look at different sites to get a different idea,

whumpthereitis · 22/10/2022 17:39

Can’t say I’ve ever seen men tell each other to ‘be kind’, online or off.

Ime it tends to be the ‘be kind’ contingent that are quick to become vicious when you fail to fall into line, which makes me laugh. If you’re going to be a dick then own it and be a shameless one, no need to present yourself as virtuous whilst you do it.

Rainbowshit · 22/10/2022 17:40

It's always the people with "be kind" in their bio on Twitter who are being absolutely vile.

CPL593H · 22/10/2022 18:28

I prefer the Law of Rabbi Hillel

"Do not do unto others that which is hateful to you"

#bekind is smug pap.

EndlessMagpies · 22/10/2022 19:26

"Be kind" is an order.

It is a patronising, sancimonious order too, and it drives me up the wall. Perhaps if the person saying it were to be polite enough to also use the word 'please', I might find it less objectionable.

Anydaynowonewouldhope · 22/10/2022 19:29

Be Kind is used to tell women not to assert their boundaries

it jumped the shark of being about stopping misogynist bullying a long way ago

patriarchy is embracing the meme #nowyourplace

DorritLittle · 22/10/2022 19:34

This made me laugh OP. I agree.

It was used a lot by my son's school during the first lockdown when they weren't providing any work or guidance and I think it was code for 'don't complain'.

PBSam · 22/10/2022 19:42

Instead of be kind it should be don't be a cunt

Sunflower987 · 22/10/2022 19:44

Honestly I think the people who utter it are usually the most unkind ones.
I don't like it on kids clothing either, it's weird.

blacksax · 22/10/2022 20:20

Sunflower987 · 22/10/2022 19:44

Honestly I think the people who utter it are usually the most unkind ones.
I don't like it on kids clothing either, it's weird.

I have yet to see it on any clothes aimed at boys...

Sunflower987 · 22/10/2022 20:30

blacksax · 22/10/2022 20:20

I have yet to see it on any clothes aimed at boys...

Yes I haven't either.

margotsdevil · 22/10/2022 20:40

In my experience it translates as "I'm entitled to behave in whatever obnoxious way I want, and if you challenge me in any way you are not listening to me telling you to be kind". This is invariably from someone who never ever gives a moment of thought to how their behaviour may be impacting others and why they should try to "be kind" themselves.

It's right up there with comments about you never know what battles others are struggling with.

SidewaysOtter · 22/10/2022 20:45

PBSam · 22/10/2022 19:42

Instead of be kind it should be don't be a cunt

I’ll have that on a t shirt instead of the “be kind” bollocks. “Be kind” can be translated as “Don’t call people out on poor behaviour, don’t make me hear anything I don’t like, don’t have any boundaries”.

Usually spouted by people who call themselves an empath while managing to be an absolute arsehole.

It make be said to everyone but it’s mostly said to women because it’s seen by some to be “unfeminine” to stand our ground and not tolerate twattery.

JanetSally · 22/10/2022 20:46

Usually used on here as a put down by the least kind posters imaginable.

MugginsOverEre · 22/10/2022 21:09

Fuck "be kind"

My mantra has always been, "Don't be a dick" which is similar but doesn't make you some compliant, docile, bullshitting wimp.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 22/10/2022 21:16

Trainfromredhill · 22/10/2022 13:03

I hate ‘be kind’. Be kind is how women end up as doormats and in coercive controlling relationships. Be civil, yes. There is no need to be rude or nasty , but ‘be kind’ gets translated later into ‘don’t do anything that might hurt or upset the other person’ Irrespective of how uncomfortable or unhappy it makes you feel. DD was at a school that drummed on and in about ‘be kind’ how it played out in the play ground was that the SEN kid could be as nasty, manipulative and horrible as they wanted, and nobody could do anything in response, because it wasn’t ‘kind’.

Saved me typing all that. 100% this.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 22/10/2022 21:18

Devoutspoken · 22/10/2022 13:04

It's not aimed just at women

Yes it is. Only the GIRLS clothes have BE KIND on them. The boys never do. They have 'be bold, be brave' etc.

And the BOYS clothes have space and science, and gaming related stuff, and also sport, whilst the girls clothes have unicorns, kittens, and Disney stuff.

Utterly sexist.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 22/10/2022 21:19

YANBU.

It started with good intentions but now seems to be translated to: “Women: STFU”.

Scrabble · 22/10/2022 21:30

Children's books are dominated by "Be kind" indoctrination.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 22/10/2022 21:47

jetadore · 22/10/2022 13:14

The people saying it are only trying to foster an inclusive safe space for civil discussion, I think you need to be more kind OP.

🤣🤣🤣

Cantseethewindows · 22/10/2022 21:53

araiwa · 22/10/2022 13:07

The only time I see it on MN is threads like this complaining about it

During the first lockdown it appeared on the posters our local bus company put up, detailing how to travel by bus during the pandemic. Pissed me off no end, COVID wasn't exactly going to spread any less fast if I was kind to others. Too damn right I started a thread about it on here and the replies were virtually the same as on this one. Yes, it is used irl, yes it is mainly aimed at women and yes it does create doormats. As you were.

Maverickess · 23/10/2022 00:31

A580Hojas · 22/10/2022 13:47

I was on an online "chat" with someone from Nationwide bank yesterday and the onscreen message said "please treat them with kindness and respect" before I was connected. Ffs.

See, the more baffling thing with that to me is why companies are feeling the need to tell their customers to not abuse the staff, you see the signs everywhere "Abuse will not be tolerated towards our staff" and several variations of, and it absolutely is tolerated - it's bloody meaningless because unless you're actually physically assaulted most times absolutely fuck all is done when people start shouting, swearing, threatening and throwing around insults, or trashing the place. In fact they're usually apologised to and given free stuff to shut them up.

We really shouldn't need to remind people to not abuse others, or to treat them with respect and civility, even if they are 'only' members of staff. I don't want or expect kindness or even manners tbh (that ship has sailed) but it would seem not being abused and personally insulted, threatened or sworn and shouted at is too much to ask of some people.

And it's always these kinds of customers that will turn round and tell you to 'be kind' when they're refused service or you tell them you're going to walk away/hang up the phone if they don't stop being an arsehole.