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Nothing makes me want to be unkind more than that fucking "Be Kind" mantra!

105 replies

A580Hojas · 22/10/2022 12:54

I am not an unkind person so I don't need it shoved down my throat.

I'm sick of seeing it on Mumsnet too. If you think someone has posted in a manner that breaks talk guidelines then just report them. Don't yap "be kind" all over the thread.

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BustyDisplay · 22/10/2022 13:38

catlovingdoctor · 22/10/2022 13:36

Some of the most unkind things I've ever had said to me were by a person who jumped straight on the "be kind" bandwagon

Yes, it’s often the way. Also self diagnosed ‘empaths’.

A580Hojas · 22/10/2022 13:42

araiwa · 22/10/2022 13:07

The only time I see it on MN is threads like this complaining about it

I've seen it twice today and several times in the last week or so and I'm hardly here these days.

I completely agree with don't be an arse (when called for) btw.

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A580Hojas · 22/10/2022 13:47

I was on an online "chat" with someone from Nationwide bank yesterday and the onscreen message said "please treat them with kindness and respect" before I was connected. Ffs.

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Rainbowshit · 22/10/2022 13:47

I'm with you OP.

itsgettingweird · 22/10/2022 13:52

Be kind basically now means shut the fuck up.

It's used to stop people challenging others actions because to challenge them may point out they've acted incorrectly.

I am kind. But I won't be treated unkindly and told be "be kind" in return.

It's very damaging to woman even though that's ironic because it was used to defend a woman who very likely committed domestic abuse of a partner.

RoseBucket · 22/10/2022 13:52

It’s as bad as, I mean this gently op. Patronising and condescending bollocks.

jammydodgersforever · 22/10/2022 14:01

Ugh my daughters school used this whenever somebody voiced criticism of their completely dire response to home schooling during the pandemic. Every email had 'remember to be kind' (meaning: by challenging our incompetence, you're not being kind).

CocoonofDavid · 22/10/2022 14:05

I’ve never seen the ‘be kind’ message plastered over products (T-shirts/pencil cases/ notepads) aimed at boys/men, only young girls or women.

My internal response is ‘fuck off’.

The most recent time I’ve heard it was when an adult woman wasn’t getting her own way. Nothing unkind was said or done, but she was told no, that’s not what happened. Everyone’s needs need to be taken into account, not just your wishes, so we need to work together to find a workable solution. Cue her screaming ‘Be kind!!! Why are you being so mean!!?!’

LikeAStar1994 · 22/10/2022 14:18

Devoutspoken · 22/10/2022 13:04

It's not aimed just at women

Exactly! It's aimed at everyone.

"Let's not pretend otherwise"

MomwasCasual · 22/10/2022 14:22

I bet you could visit umpteen men-focussed websites and fora and not see it once.

BlusteryLake · 22/10/2022 14:28

Apart from when said to toddlers, "be kind" nearly always means either "be compliant" or "don't call me out". Ughhhh.

roarfeckingroarr · 22/10/2022 14:56

Don't be a dick is better

Suemademedoit · 22/10/2022 15:00

Be kind = don’t challenge me, don’t tell me I’m wrong even if I am, don’t tell me anything I don’t want to hear.

Also, it’s literally a command. Anyone who attempts to command me to do anything get a “wtf?” from me.

balalake · 22/10/2022 15:03

Please treat people with respect is very different in my opinion, from Be Kind, the latter used by people who are not the case.

MsTSwift · 22/10/2022 15:05

I agree with the majority and it now has quite sinister undertones when said to anyone over the age of 6. It’s bloody patronising actually.

thecatsthecats · 22/10/2022 15:33

I especially hate "Whatever happened to be kind?", as if it's some sort of code of conduct we all signed.

I've never been fluffy, performative kind. But I am fair, moral and just - all things that end up creating a nice place to live if, rather than spouting platitudes.

DavesSpareDeckChair · 22/10/2022 15:41

I used to work with a bloke who harrassed and bullied several colleagues. One way he did this was by making false allegations against someone and then using that as an excuse to give that person a dressing down in front of everybody. One day he started doing this to a female colleague, she started calling him out on it, and he told her to "be kind!" From that moment onwards I understood why that phrase annoys mumsnetters so much.

CruCru · 22/10/2022 15:51

At one point the tube stop I got on had “BE KIND” in pink hearts all the way down the escalator (electronic adverts so even more glaring). It was like I couldn’t escape.

Devoutspoken · 22/10/2022 15:54

It's as pointless as saying calm down to an angry person

Dancingwithumberellas · 22/10/2022 15:57

Trainfromredhill · 22/10/2022 13:03

I hate ‘be kind’. Be kind is how women end up as doormats and in coercive controlling relationships. Be civil, yes. There is no need to be rude or nasty , but ‘be kind’ gets translated later into ‘don’t do anything that might hurt or upset the other person’ Irrespective of how uncomfortable or unhappy it makes you feel. DD was at a school that drummed on and in about ‘be kind’ how it played out in the play ground was that the SEN kid could be as nasty, manipulative and horrible as they wanted, and nobody could do anything in response, because it wasn’t ‘kind’.

I completely agree with this post. It’s nearly always used to shut somebody down from reacting to hurtful behaviour they have been on the receiving end of.

VeronicaBeccabunga · 22/10/2022 15:59

I think this might be of use here

Nothing makes me want to be unkind more than that fucking "Be Kind" mantra!
ArcaneWireless · 22/10/2022 16:05

That isn’t an isolated incident daves

Bullied for years by a colleague. including false allegations (enough to damage my reputation pretty much permanently).

At one of my grievance meetings I was told to be kind. The poor soul had gone off with stress and palpitations because I’d raised a grievance and ‘he clearly wasn’t well’.

To me. The person with skin covered in sores and bald with the stress of it all.

WasI fuck being kind.

EmeraldShamrock1 · 22/10/2022 16:11

You're overreacting. Sometimes it needs to be said in order to calm a situation.

I treat people how I like to be treated, fairly and with respect.

I find you get what you give.

I also get a buzz from doing things for others for no reason other than being kind.

There is enough unkindness and cuntness in the world.

Shodan · 22/10/2022 16:23

Sometimes it needs to be said in order to calm a situation.

With the greatest kindness, that's the last thing that would help a situation.

Closely followed by:

Calm down dear

and

It's nice to be nice.

Overused platitudes are rarely helpful. In fact, they're more likely to inflame a situation, as people don't generally like to be patronised.
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user1471538283 · 22/10/2022 16:24

My revolting ex neighbor was big on the "be kind" mantra and weeping over Caroline Flack. On social media obviously, not real life.

In real life she and her husband were vile. Loud music, shouting, bitching about everyone, banging about.