To just say let's go - fuck it !

[stillvicarinatutu]

My fantasy - and I can't actually see why we couldn't do this .....

Group of us me be somewhere remote . Farm our own veg , keep hens and cows - eat our own eggs and milk , live a good life without killing anything, build yurts , teach our kids the really important things in life - nature , kindness, spelling and basic maths and science , share with our friends and neighbours and embrace our kids with differences as well as our nt kids - basically start a bloody hippy commune where we do t have to worry about our kids being bullied or our gas bills .

Anyone with me ? I'd go tomorrow. Had enough of politics and idiots . I just want to live a good life , love my animals , nurture my friends and cook and share.
Fancy the highlands of Scotland or somewhere equally off grid . We could club together. Fuck off . Forget liz fucking truss and that whole shit show and just live . Love our dogs and our cats and our cows and our hens , look after each other , raise kids as a village , live a bloody amazing life.

Sign up . I'd seriously do this if we had enough interest, people , and yurts !

My OH had this dream, well at least the self sufficient bit, without the communal living. My OH is from London and has never spent more than two weeks in the country, and then he met me, a girl from farming stock, and his dream was well and truly brought back to reality. I think it would be easier to move somewhere cheap with a lot of land, or get an allotment, and try to live simply. Trying to be self sufficient is a recipe for constant drudgery and failure. And of those who I've known to live communally, the men seem to think all aspects of their lives are communal, if you catch my drift. Might be OK if it's women only though!

I’d recommend watching Jean de Florette.

Some people are taking this a little too seriously.......

How would you milk cows? You’d need a bull so that the cow can have a calf to have milk (same as humans!!), you’d then end up with more and more cows if you weren’t going to kill them? Going don’t know if you’re going to get bull calves or heifer calves so you’d end up with them all interbreeding!!!

What are you gonna feed the cats and dogs?

Google ‘Eden: Paradise Lost’

I’d love that. I lived in a hippy commune type place like this with my child years ago. It was just for a short while whilst we were traveling in the USA and we stayed for a couple of months. It was fantastic. Such a different lifestyle. We all got in a circle at night after communal dinner and said some words. We also helped people living near our community and surrounding area. I would love to do this again. And op you’re so right- thinking about it, it’s actually not an impossible goal.

We live as self sufficiently as is reasonably possible whilst having a full time job and raising 2 teenagers. It is very hard work. It is almost impossible to do it and be veggie in the UK - we eat some lamb and lots and lots of eggs. We buy most of our clothes but do sell very nice jumpers/blankets for £££ which covers the cost of nice bamboo thermals!
I'm very very busy but if you have any questions ask.

This is something me and my DH have dreamed of and in a different situation we'd be in the wild wilderness right now. We have two children but with other people (DD and DSS) so we can't just up sticks and go as we would have if both children had been ours biologically.

Well, you can definitely count me in. It sounds bloody bliss.

I always fancied the kibbutz thing when I was in my early 20s and really wish I’d been brave enough to do it now.

Currently my fantasies are either a) live in the middle of nowhere away from noisy neighbours with their strimmers and constantly slamming car doors, or b) buy a motorhome and get another dog and just fuck off.

We are clearly both singing from the same hymn sheet.

I should add though- we were not a self sufficient community. We grew fruit and veg but we would also drive into a local shopping mall every so often and buy loads of groceries. Someone did kill an animal they owned and bring that to cook and eat but I didn’t take part in that meal it felt wrong. (Ridiculously hypocritical of me because I’m not a vegetarian).

I'd rather a tiny cottage on the middle of nowhere with a few acres I can grow whatever I fancy on. I make do with my 5m2 garden for now. It's tiny and scruffy, but I plant what I want when I want and it's wonderful.

My idea of a nightmare too. You'll quickly end up with the strong personalities as alphas /wanna be leaders of the commune with all that this entails. As others have said, the framing aspect is much more complicated than it sounds. I like modern city life, yes the political and economic situation stinks but this is not the solution. I can't imagine women having as many rights if this is a mixed sex set up. I do wish I'd travelled to live in a Kibbutz though.

i’m not sure you can just ‘opt out’ of society and then opt back in when you feel like it, like when you need a doctor, or the police, or your rubbish collecting, unless you are going to work and contribute towards those things…,

I have been reading this with Lister in mind.

Lister: I'm gonna get a sheep and a cow, and breed horses.

Rimmer: ...With a sheep and a cow?

Lister: No, with horses and horses.

How would you source medical and veterinary care and medicines?

What happens if one of your group turns out to be a paedophile? What if someone's DC in the group IS a bully?

Are your children going to get any qualifications, or will they be stuck with you for ever?

How will you feed your cat if you aren't going to kill anything? (Perhaps that's what you would have to do with your surplus male calves....)

Me and DH sometimes fantasise about similar, but not a big commune, we couldn’t be bothered with other people - it could all go Lord of the Flies pretty quickly. Also, not veggie. Just living remotely and not having to deal with the big hairy bullshit of the current world.

Then I put my practical head on and think about - how would we get to a hospital quickly, what if I fancied a look around the shops…..lol.

I lived in a hippy commune type place like this with my child years ago. It was just for a short while whilst we were traveling in the USA and we stayed for a couple of months.

That's a holiday. Entirely different doing it permanently.

Oh yes, clothes and shoes.

And if your heating plans are log fires, that's actually not great for the environment or climate change.

@stillvicarinatutu
I’m with you. Sometimes I look at my life and can’t believe it’s mine, and why haven’t I done more of what I wanted. Fear I suppose.
Campervan and dog/s is an excellent idea.

@WilsonMilson do it. Takes us 20 mins by car ti get anywhere and I love it. We have friends, but can hide away. Have two neighbours, but totally detached. Can get sainsburys delivered, though not takeaway 🤣.

Maybe. Lots of people don't realise that cows have to breed to produce the milk though, and think that farmers are just meanies for slaughtering all the bulls.

I’m in but I do have experience of this going wrong . My parents did this . Moved to Devon , bought an acre and a falling down house. Had a few hundred free range chickens , goats, ducks , etc . Sold the eggs as organic before the whole organic thing was a thing . Then Edwina Curry fucked it all up for them . Dad had an affair with a woman from the village and ran off . There’s more, but you get the idea…..

Been tried all over the place, for ever and a day.
Suits some people but not many.

Be careful about mental health if doing this type of thing. It is not easy in many ways.

This sounds like my idea of heaven, I often fantasise about this kind of life for me and my little family, I think it would be a wonderful way to raise children.

Not for me - too much of a townie - but defo something many people seem to aspire to and would be up for. Although your yurt in Scotland in winter might be too much for a lot of people I suspect, lol. Maybe a camper van somewhere warmer..