I'd rather donate to help the prosecution

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One of these arrogant idiots who have nothing better to do with their time than glue themselves to roads wants to crowd fund his legal fees.

I'd rather donate to the prosecution!

No we can’t. We can have fuckwits in charge who wants to drop the upper tax rate while sticking the boot in with “poor folk can get another job” and protesters protesting oil nowhere near oil headquarters. Fuckwittery everywhere. Why arent they protesting at parliament? You know that great big place where all the former etonians make rules for us that don’t apply to them while billing the working folk for their expenses? Where the people that would be the ones to make changes work?

"How the hell do you know that nobody died? Don't pretend you have inside info or can predict the future."

How do you know they were critically ill? 🤔

(The reason I am confident that the did not die is that the Daily Mail would have put it on the front page of there was even the mildest sniff of evidence that they did)

The protesters are behaving like cult members, absolute lunatics. I would say if their aim is to get people to listen and act then they have spectacularly failed. All I see is a bunch of entitled spoiled people making a mess for others to clean up and inconveniencing the general public. I would prosecute the lot and make them clean up their own mess.

How dare people compare these gormless thick twats to the suffragettes.

How do these cunts get to bridges and roads? Do they walk? The arsehole dressed in a skirt and bandeau top vandalizing a showroom window yesterday had a North East accent. Had he walked from Newcastle? had he fuck?

He had glasses on too...frames made from plastic, oil.

Unless they walk naked to where they are protesting or wearing a fleece recently shorn off a sheep's back then they can stick their views right up their arse. They can stick them up their arse anyway but it might make them a bit more authentic.

I wonder how many of us, if our loved one having a medical catastrophe in the car would wait while the police coaxed them to move or would run over them and deal with the consequences later.

I have had my four-year-old gasping for breath and we took him in the car as it was quicker than waiting for an ambulance and it enrages me to think what would have happened if one of these things had sat in front of my car and if any mother doesn't feel the same, I'd be amazed.

How do I know they were critically ill? Fuck me..do you genuinely not understand what a blue light ambulance is?

And you also seem not to grasp the basic idea that (a) people don't necessarily die instantly and (b) not everyone is like these protesters and wants to expose everything about themselves to the media.

You have absolutely no fucking idea at all whether or not anyone died or will die as a result of this or similar protests.

You are talking smug, sanctimonious, fact-free slurry.

They regularly do protest at parliament but parliament are elected by the public and care about votes, not people protesting outside in Westminster square

If you want to change something in parliament, you need to bring the topic to the attention of the public and hope it influences their vote.

If enough people are concerned about an issue that politicians fear losing their vote, then policy changes.

Remember Fathers4Justice? Used to dress up as superheroes and climb on things to protest about (perceived shortcomings with) child custody laws? They climbed up a crane at tower bridge and on the royal courts of justice. Roads closed for a few days at Tower Bridge

They needed to bring the issue to the attention of the public in order to try and influence politicians. If the public engages and cares, politicians follow

Same thing here. You may not agree with it but it's a perfectly logical form of protest.

It's made you talk about it. It's made the news, it bothers people. If they didn't disrupt normal people nobody would care...

@Creasedlinen While it is true that Mrs Panhkhurst and the suffragettes raised the profile of the fight for votes for women and drew attention to the cause the role played by the wider suffrage movement ( the suffragists) is not as well known. It is true to say that the part played by the Suffragists who eschewed violence and direct action was equally significant in the fight for women's enfranchisment and arguably had a greater impact.

I pity the one who pours milk anywhere near my expensive coat and shoes because those shoes have points that could take a thorn out of a greyhound's arse.

Some folk have died from traffic induced asthma so let's block the ambulance of someone having a heart attack so that they die. Logical.

"How do you know they were critically ill?" 🤔

Hmm well we have a few options here.

Perhaps the paramedics felt like having a laugh and switching on their blue lights and zooming along the road.
Perhaps they've been to a call out where they need to get Betty to hospital ASAP because her bunion is giving her gyp.
Or....perhaps an ambulance with blue lights had someone critically ill in it.

Which do you think is the most likely option?

I love your style! 😀

In fact the work done by women during the war had a greater influence than the protests.

Add on the man who got stuck in motorway tailbacks caused by them, trying to get his elderly mother to hospital as she was having a stroke.
Entitled idiots, the lot of them. I've noticed their Facebook profile picture is now a can of soup. I'm sure people struggling to feed their kids will love having the food waste rubbed in their faces. Their privilege really is showing, and they have the audacity to try to lecture everyone else.

Did your mum work 45 hours a week too? Hats off to her if she did, I do, and I am not going to get in from work at 6.30pm and drag my dd 40 minutes on foot to buy tea, 40 minutes home again and start cooking at going up to 9pm. If I had all day to potter down there then I'd think about it.

Well, I work limited hours and I am still not going to walk 40 minutes to a supermarket and lug it all back the same way. I'm not a llama and nor is my name John Boy Walton.

Now I want a llama

There's new evidence that Emily Davidson wants trying to bring the horse down but trying to attach a flag to his bridle. She had a return train ticket and holiday plans so it doesn't seem likely that she wanted to end her life.

The protests now are shite. Throwing soup on a painting, pouring milk all over a supermarket... Not quite in the same league as hunger strikes and woman chaining themselves to buildings. (Not to mention that the political and social climate was vastly different then!)

It's interesting that the protesters don't do anything that actually inconveniences or actively harms them. A bit of glue on a hand isn't quite the same as chaining themselves to a building.

They're also annoying people and turning them off the cause!

And people know about climate change. It's just on a personal level there's very little people can do. Change needs to come from government/corporation level and that's just not happening because they're more interested in making money.

Well said!

If any kind of protester had got in the way when my DP was being blue lighted to hospital with a critical brain bleed in January they wouldn’t have needed their own ambulance they’d have needed a mortuary van.

Sorry- you don’t win sympathy by stopping emergency ambulances from
getting to hospital.

If someone dies in the back of the ambulance as a result, charge the protesters with Manslaughter.

It blows my mind that people are on here smugly saying it was fine to block a blue light ambulance because the fucking daily mail hasn't reported a death as a direct result.

Imagine being like @mojomoon and placing so much value in daily mail reporting that you rely on it to understand basic morality!

@MistressoftheDarkSide I hope your dp has made a good recovery x

@BloodAndFire Thank you - unfortunately it was not a happy ending as it turned out to be undiagnosed and metastised cancer….. however we didn’t know that until afterwards at autopsy…. At the time of the first bleed it was genuinely thought an operation would save him, hence the urgency….. second unexplained bleed after apparently successful op finished him off.

Point is, as you rightly say, anyone being blue lighted is because time is of the essence and nobody should be playing God with anyone else’s life in such a situation.

I - and my DP - are / were advocates for change and peaceful protest aimed at the actual perpetrators of injustice etc, but this kind of stupidity leads to further restrictions on that so they’re shooting themselves in the foot. And it will be the very people they need to get on board opposing them.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar and all that …..

Oh @MistressoftheDarkSide I am so, so sorry to hear that. What a terrible shock. I'm so very very sorry for your loss.

No one has the right to make a game or a joke out of blocking people from getting to help that could save their lives. It's evil and completely unjustifiable.