Prisoner morality TW

[scorpiogirly]

I've come across this a lot and given some thought to it.

When it comes to a paedophile going to prison, they're always at very high risk from other prisoners.

These prisoners could be the most violent murders etc yet they will Jo stand for sexual offences against children.

To me, crimes against children are the absolute worst.

AIBU to somewhat admire these prisoners for their intolerance to this sort of thing?

To admire violent people for finding reasons to be violent? Yes YABU.

Huh. They’re only targeting child sex offenders because it’s a murder they can get away with. Murderers like killing people. They do it for fun. A freebie that won’t add to your prison term is a treat. They’re not doing it out of morality because they have no morals.

I've actually never thought of it like that.

It's another completely selfish act on their part and nothing to be admired.

You can feel like the paedophile ultimately deserved what they got without praising the person who decides to assault them

Yes maybe admire was the wrong word.

I agree, personally I'd have no qualms with whatever fate a paedophile might face.

I suppose I just always thought that was crossing a line even for the most violent of society and just felt in agreement with it. Not that I agree with any other heinous crime.

What? I literally don’t understand the OP.

But you obviously do agree with heinous crimes. You are condoning assault, gbh, or murder.

And for the victim who went through all the trauma of court to get him locked up, and there he is, getting away with more assault or even murder?

Why should the victims be overlooked?

The victims of who now?

The victims of the prisoners you suggest should be able to deal with paedophiles as they see fit.

@scorpiogirly

Why not just admit it. You admire vigilantism.

It’s just a pity the state won’t do it.

Anyone can kill if the circumstances were there (self defence, loss of temper, mental breakdown etc).

It takes a particular kind of evil to rape a child.

I’d be more likely to support the death penalty for child rape than I would for murder.

Correct. These guys aren’t heroes.

That’s up to you, just don’t kid yourself that it would act as any kind of deterrent.

I think I get what you are saying. I've sort of felt the same.

And if a vigilante (or prisoner) wants to kill a paedophile, then I am all for it. I'm not going to lose sleep over one less child abuser in the world, however he goes out.

Paedophiles are despised by everyone except for other Paedophiles.
I don't agree with what they do.
I also don't think they should be subjected to violence from others.
What if one of them (paedophile) was your Son?
I'm not condoning what crimes they have committed. But violence is never the answer.

I'm not sure Violent murderers have much of conscience, they just like being violent and see paedophile, s as easy targets .

He or she
www.emmottsnell.co.uk/blog/female-paedophiles-how-prevalent-are-they

Personally I am against any vigilantism or death penalty for any crime.

I just know that our society turns a blind eye to child sex offenders being assaulted or murdered while in prison. Sometimes we are complicit. I have read about prison guards collaborating with inmates to set up a time/place for the sex offender to be attacked.

I'm glad the paedos get targeted in jail. They deserve it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but sexual offenders are kept on separate wings and then go to sexual offending prisons.

They are rarely harmed

Generally the reason for the hate towards paedophiles by other prisoners is often related to their own early sexual abuse and the projection of that anger and hatred. No crimes are ok, but all can be understood from the perspective of trauma. Pretty much the entire prison population is extremely traumatised from early childhood sexual abuse, physical abuse, neglect or other trauma. A significant proportion have poor literacy, numeracy, reading and writing skills. The prison is full of adults who have benn repeatedly and systematically failed by numerous systems since baby hood.

That is true. We are treating them far more humanely now. Which I think is a good thing.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32085076

If you believe it's acceptable (or more than acceptable) for a person convicted of one crime to assault or kill a sex offender then you should consider whether this is actually the ideal situation.

To me, that viewpoint is more of a sign that you don't believe sex offenders get a serious enough punishment. If you want sex offenders to be put in a position where they can be assaulted or killed in prison, or are at least happy for that to occur, then surely the solution is to adjust sentencing guidelines so that this fear and risk is explicitly a part of their punishment.

If that's what you want, fine - but many people who hold those views would not consider themselves in favour of official state sponsored torture and execution.

I think this is an interesting point because it suggests that plenty of people are in favour of the death penalty or even torture for certain criminals, even though they simultaneously hold a belief that these things are completely unacceptable in the modern world.

Unfortunately I have a borderline personality disorder which is associated with violence.

If one of my own, sons or daughters, molested a child, I wouldn’t be able to control the utter rage and disgust I would have. I have zero tolerance for these monsters.

He or she, I still don't care.

And if it was my son or daughter that was the paedophile? Maybe I'll feel a bit different, but if I'm really, really honest... I'll probably feel relieved. NO-ONE should harm children that way. Not even my own son or daughter.

I will say this, and it's only my opinion. I believe that paedophilia cannot be helped. I think they are born that way. But I do believe that acting on it can be helped. I say this because I know someone who knows he is attracted to prepubescent girls.

He has never acted on it. He lives out in the sticks with his family to avoid any interactions. He hates himself. Absolutely hates himself for it. I wouldn't agree to someone harming him since he has done nothing wrong.

But if he did act and was sent to prison and killed, I think even he would be relieved.

Again, this is ONLY MY OPINION.