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Have come to a destination birthday, now disinvited from the actual party

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NotWelcomeAtParties · 14/10/2022 15:43

Background info so as not to drip feed: My friend, (henceforth known as “Birthday Girl” - BG) invited me to her destination birthday. She also invited my close friend (F) who she likes but doesn’t know well. The other people going all know each other from her work so she invited F along so I could have someone here too which was thoughtful and kind.

She booked accommodation for the group. The blokes (including F) were to stay in a dorm together. The hotel also has a self-enclosed villa at the top with a living room for the whole group to use and she booked that too. When arranging everything she sent a message saying she would take the master bedroom with her partner, and there was also a twin room to share and a sofa bed. She booked everything and I paid her my (equal) share for the villa.

F and I turned up a day later than everyone else. BG was out sightseeing when we arrived but some of the group were there to let us into the villa. I found out then that two other guests were in the twin room and the only place left for me was the sofa bed in the living room.

I was unhappy about this - I’m a light sleeper, teetotal right now and generally go to bed early. Being forced to stay up until nine other people (who drink) are ready to sleep is my idea of abject misery. And not being able to nap in the afternoon if I want because everyone is using the space, and not having anywhere to unpack my things.

I knew I wouldn’t be able to sleep properly AT ALL so decided the best thing to do was just find a room elsewhere (F opted to do this too as he thought it would be awkward staying there if I wasn’t around). We found somewhere with 2 available rooms nearby and checked in.

Later, we met up with everyone for a drink and I could tell BG was upset but we couldn’t really talk properly surrounded by everyone else and I assumed we would when we got a moment alone. However, the next morning (today, which is her actual birthday) she sent me a message saying she would rather we didn’t join them for the celebrations as she is very “angry and upset”. She also said we “should feel free to move on if we wanted to” (it’s a small town, and I guess she doesn’t want to risk bumping into us.) she also said she has paid me back for my share of the villa.

We exchanged a couple of messages. I said if I’d have known in advance I would be left with the sofa I would have just arranged a separate room for myself in the same hotel. She said she had made it very clear the sofa was a possibility. But I don’t think it was clear at all. The sofa is such an unequal sleeping situation compared to the other options, wouldn’t you at least give the person stuck with it a heads up? I would have!

There’s basically been a miscommunication between us about the sleeping arrangements, but I feel I’ve sorted it out as best I can by getting a room elsewhere, which has zero negative impact on BG or anyone else (if anything, it’s a net win for everyone as I would have been grumpy as fuck sleeping on the sofa and miserable company).

It just seems so mean to disinvite us from the party. The trip has ended up costing a small fortune (south of France), and F and I are self employed and we’ve both given up work days (and earnings) to come. We chipped in together so we could get her a really good gift, and now we can’t even give it to her.

In her last message she said we need a conversation about this, but not today, implying that we will hash things out when we get back to the UK, but honestly AIBU to just say fuck it, and not bother?

I’m not wrong, am I? This is really mean?!

OP posts:
mathanxiety · 14/10/2022 19:58

When you're the last one to show up you should take it as given that you're going to be the one on the sofa. 'First up, best dressed'....

But your (hopefully former) friend is behaving like a spoiled twelve year old here. And the suggestion that she has baggsed the town and you should find your own is truly hilarious.

ihatesteve · 14/10/2022 20:00

You sound like a princess. No wonder your friend is upset with you - you have completely changed the dynamic. If you reeally didn't want the sofa bed you should have said so in advance. Why are you more important that the other person.

diddl · 14/10/2022 20:06

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 19:49

What?! BG knew op is trying to conceive. BF knew about the miscarriage. So it’s not a huge leap to imagine she might be pregnant?!
You would have to be speculatorly insensitive!

Yes-BG knows.

But others who don't wouldn't necessarily think TTC/pregnant would they?

I've never policed friend's drinking habits nor questioned it if they didn't drink for a time.

Would certainly never assume anything from it!

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:10

ihatesteve · 14/10/2022 20:00

You sound like a princess. No wonder your friend is upset with you - you have completely changed the dynamic. If you reeally didn't want the sofa bed you should have said so in advance. Why are you more important that the other person.

Because she is pregnant, maybe
Most ‘friends’ care about their friends esp one’s ttc and may well be pregnant, call me old fashioned.

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:11

But it was so obvious the two work colleagues were going to take the shared room.

I can’t understand how this didn’t raise the question in the OP’s mind, prompting her to question arrangements before agreeing.

To arrive and assume the work colleagues would have split up in order for her to have a bed is just weird.

SerenaTee · 14/10/2022 20:12

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:10

Because she is pregnant, maybe
Most ‘friends’ care about their friends esp one’s ttc and may well be pregnant, call me old fashioned.

Have you read the thread? The others don’t know she’s pregnant!

QS90 · 14/10/2022 20:16

Didn't see that you are also pregnant OP, congratulations! Will it be your first? IME you won't have time for self-absorbed drama queen's once the baby comes along (or as you are experiencing, during pregnancy either). For me, I still see lots of my pre-baby friends and have made lots of new "mum" friends too, as I'm sure you will. The ones who are pains though drop away - for them, they can't deal with not being your #1 priority, for you I doubt you'll have the physical or emotional energy to deal with them.

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:19

diddl · 14/10/2022 20:06

Yes-BG knows.

But others who don't wouldn't necessarily think TTC/pregnant would they?

I've never policed friend's drinking habits nor questioned it if they didn't drink for a time.

Would certainly never assume anything from it!

Given it’s BGs event one might imagine given everything she knows that she might ensure her friend has a comfortable bed no? TTC that may or may not be pregnant would matter to me, as a good friend.

I agree the whole group might not be aware.

BG has shown:

Inadequate planning
No consideration for guest comfort
Poor communication, not conveying the sofa bed situ just before the trip

Princess behaviour and faux outrage at op quietly relocating without a fuss
Poor resolution skills
Total disregard for friends history
Ungrateful and not acknowledging the cost and sheer effort of flying in for said birthday

Shall I go on….?

In a word - appalling behaviour.

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:21

SerenaTee · 14/10/2022 20:12

Have you read the thread? The others don’t know she’s pregnant!

But her friend BG might guess, given she KNOWS op has had a miscarriage and is TTC

The others may not know, but BG almost certainly will have some idea of the possibility

Dreamingcats · 14/10/2022 20:23

I think it's blindingly obvious that the past to arrive gets the sofa, and maybe worth apologising that you didn't raise it months ago as a potential problem.

But I don't think finding yourself nearby alternative accommodation is a big deal. I wouldn't mind a friend doing that assuming she didn't demand a refund.

Both in the wrong imo.

NotWelcomeAtParties · 14/10/2022 20:24

Wow so you expect the people who know each other from work to split up and for one of them to share with someone they don’t really know? And that’s after they have already had a night there

Of course I didn’t expect them to split up! That’s why I decided to book myself a proper room when I turned up and saw that I was stuck with the sofa bed (which I had forgotten was even a possibility - my fault, I know) so no one else would be inconvenienced and frankly, everyone would be better off not having to tiptoe around someone sleeping when they want to go to the loo in the middle of the night or get a glass of water.

OP posts:
Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:24

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:11

But it was so obvious the two work colleagues were going to take the shared room.

I can’t understand how this didn’t raise the question in the OP’s mind, prompting her to question arrangements before agreeing.

To arrive and assume the work colleagues would have split up in order for her to have a bed is just weird.

If you are not organising things you may not be aware in advance of plans. I have turned up to stuff and not been aware of the hosts exact plan. Not unusual.

What is unusual is to expect anyone over the age of 11 to sleep on a sofa bed in a lounge used by everyone else. I have never heard of anyone doing such a thing since my teen years when we all had good backs and could sleep anywhere.

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:25

But in fairness @Kissingfrogs25 - the BG invited a friend of the OP’s to come along, as she knew she wouldn’t know many people. She has done some thinking, even if she has relegated we go one by herself to shit sleeping arrangements.

And I STILL don’t understand how anyone can justify splitting two work friends up, just so that the OP doesn’t get the sofa bed?! Grin

diddl · 14/10/2022 20:26

In a word - appalling behaviour.

I don't think that anyone is disputing that.

Others have said that she should have booked a place with a bed for everyone or checked before booking if a sofabed would be acceptable.

They can be comfortable enough-even for a pregnant woman for a couple of nights.

It's more often that hey aren't in a convenient location!

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:26
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Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:30

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:25

But in fairness @Kissingfrogs25 - the BG invited a friend of the OP’s to come along, as she knew she wouldn’t know many people. She has done some thinking, even if she has relegated we go one by herself to shit sleeping arrangements.

And I STILL don’t understand how anyone can justify splitting two work friends up, just so that the OP doesn’t get the sofa bed?! Grin

Crap planning on the part of the host
Pure and simple
Most are too busy to have the time to look into the detail. I would assume always my friends would never expect me to sleep on a sofa bed , and it would feel rather rude and patronising to send a message to the host - ‘oh by the way I do hope I won’t be sleeping on the sofa bed. What were you thinking dear girl booking such lame accommodation in the first place?’ Complete with silent swish of the hair, snout in the air.

I personally would never embarrass the host with a message like that.

Upwiththelark76 · 14/10/2022 20:31

OP you are quite justified to feel thoroughly pissed off . Ignore the haters .

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:33

diddl · 14/10/2022 20:26

In a word - appalling behaviour.

I don't think that anyone is disputing that.

Others have said that she should have booked a place with a bed for everyone or checked before booking if a sofabed would be acceptable.

They can be comfortable enough-even for a pregnant woman for a couple of nights.

It's more often that hey aren't in a convenient location!

There are plenty of pp disputing that!

Glitterspy · 14/10/2022 20:34

Eurgh, I’ve had this. One of the huge downsides to villa/cottage group holidays is the inevitable bedroom inequality and envy situation. Knowing you’re in a bad room, let alone stranded on a sofa bed, is the pits. You were right to rescue yourself from that date OP! Disinviting you seems a crazy reaction. Get on with your holiday, return the gift when you get back to the UK, spend the money you’ve spent on that making this break the best it can be.

mam0918 · 14/10/2022 20:36

I don't understand why people think being 8 weeks pregnant means anything, I was camping sleeping of the floor at a festival ground at 10 weeks pregnant and slept on a fold out bed for 90% of my pregnancy.

Hell, when I did IVF I was sleeping on a sofa bed in the AirB&B.

8 weeks pregnant does NOT stop you sleeping on a sofa bed or entitle you to it more than anyone else.

Why does anyone seem to think it would change anything? OP still is not more entitled than these other women, who she doesnt know (her friends work collegues) who could have health conditions or hell even be pregnant themselves for all she knows (she is completely making assumptions about girls she knows so little she was allowed to bring a stranger to the rest of the group with her for company).

StupidSmallFruit · 14/10/2022 20:37

I would assume always my friends would never expect me to sleep on a sofa bed

Confused

Well, somebody was expected to sleep on the sofa bed…………………….?

littlegreenheart · 14/10/2022 20:37

FWIW, I've done quite a few of these "share a holiday house with a mix of people" and it can get messy. Someone upthread said, wisely, that expectations will differ across friend groups, but in a case like this you may also have very different expectations within the group, and a bigger chance for bad or no communication.

I read your description of the sleeping arrangements and thought "uh oh!" I'd guess that BG wanted this particular hotel/villa and and either didn't think through the problems of the rooms/beds being impossible to split fairly or just hoped it would work itself out. When noone spoke up to object to the sofa bed or to the twin room or to express a preference for one or the other, she just did nothing. Not great, but not wrong either. I also think the person on the sofabed is normally given use of the other bedrooms to nap, change, have some privacy, store your bag, etc - but there's no protocol, you could have asked as well as anyone else offering.

You wrote quite strongly in your first post I don’t think it was clear at all. The sofa is such an unequal sleeping situation compared to the other options, wouldn’t you at least give the person stuck with it a heads up? I would have! and then in your follow-up honestly yes, I expected to be in the twin. I just assumed that the sofa bed is so crap in comparison that whoever got it would get a fair warning in advance. You've said later on that it was a misunderstanding over the arrangements and you're not angry about that. Fair enough - but could it reasonably have come across, in your earlier messages and conversations with BG and in what you said to the others when you arrived/left, that you DID blame her (and perhaps her friends) and were upset with them or felt you'd been wronged or misled? Does she understand that you and F are just around the corner and planned still plan to hang out at the villa and fully participate in the party, you just wanted a space to sleep or have some privacy without inconveniencing the other guests by borrowing a room, bed, etc? Just a thought.

It's extreme of her to actively disinvite you. IS she the the kind of person who could be genuinely upset over what happened (or what she thought had happened) to the extent that it really would upset her to see you? It seems like the two of you should have made time to talk privately last night, even if just to say let's talk in the morning.

She also said we “should feel free to move on if we wanted to” (it’s a small town, and I guess she doesn’t want to risk bumping into us.) This would not have bothered me at all, but I wouldn't have interpreted it the way you did. I actually think this was considerate IF she believed YOU were angry with her/the others and no longer wanted to spend time with the group.

Anyway, only you know your friend IRL and can say if (1) this is uncharacteristic and hurtful of her but there's something else going on/a serious misunderstanding and you want to save the friendship if you can, or (2) this is the last of many straws and you're happy for the excuse to bin the friendship. If you do want to save it, I would talk to her tonight. If not, go have a good time with F and make the most of what's left of your holiday.

Sometimeswinning · 14/10/2022 20:37

I wouldn't be sleeping on a sofa pregnant or not! I'd be chuffed she refunded so quickly and go and enjoy myself! She's made her choice to be annoyed. Maybe if you had spoken to her directly she may have understood better. But that's one of those things. She'll get over it. Go and enjoy France!

Isahlo · 14/10/2022 20:38

I would just tell friend that you’re newly pregnant feeing rough and needed the privacy
thought you were doing the best thing etc

Hardbackwriter · 14/10/2022 20:40

Kissingfrogs25 · 14/10/2022 20:24

If you are not organising things you may not be aware in advance of plans. I have turned up to stuff and not been aware of the hosts exact plan. Not unusual.

What is unusual is to expect anyone over the age of 11 to sleep on a sofa bed in a lounge used by everyone else. I have never heard of anyone doing such a thing since my teen years when we all had good backs and could sleep anywhere.

In my experience of booking accommodation for more than about four people almost all the options will include a sofabed among the 'beds' and count it in the number of people they sleep. You can of course book somewhere with more beds so that no one needs to use it - which means that you if you want to find accommodation for six people you need to look for places that claim to sleep eight - but obviously that costs more and you often don't have many options available if you're looking for somewhere that big. I'm 37 and I went on a group holiday earlier this year with other women the same age where one of us slept on a sofabed in the living room. She actually picked it because it meant she was the only one not sharing a room, but any of us would have been willing to have it. It's not a totally wild idea - it's not like expecting someone to sleep on the floor, or indeed a sofa rather than a sofabed.