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ThisShitsBananas · 2022-10-13T18:26:20+00:00

How the fuck are kids this young being so violent?? 12 year old girl hanged up on an beaten unconscious by a gang of other school girls. I’m just speechless. I can’t even begin to imagine how terrified she must have been. https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/autistic-girl-12-lured-park-7697708

Lu901 · 14/10/2022 17:16

Bloody hell what messed up situation to be in your poor daughter. What you going to do? You can't send her back to a school that won't protect her that has no consequences for acts like these. It will just happen again.

Lu901 · 14/10/2022 17:20

This angers me so much. If this was adults in a work space it be taken seriously. Why does being in a school environment make it okay? Hoping some teachers will jump on with some advice.

nothingmuchaboutjerry · 14/10/2022 22:46

@Lu901 she's at home. I've reached out to the school welfare offices for their guidance as what to do next. I cannot home school her as I work full time. All local schools are full, we are currently going through the appeals process. So in all honesty, I've no idea. She's a bright kid with so much potential which is being taken away from her as I won't allow her to return there.

Starsinyoureyes13 · 14/10/2022 23:36

I remember being bullied, it's the ones egging it on are the worst those people stick out for me.
I'm going to be honest if my daughter was involved in bullying recording it, laughing egging on a bully repeatable kickong someone in the head , my foot would be up her arse she wouldn't be able to sit down for a month. To me kicking someone in the head could kill them, onlysick little shits find things like that funny and to record it, pyscho behaviour

HighlandPony · 14/10/2022 23:45

This isn’t a new thing though. It’s been happening for generations. I think social media just means folk see it more whereas before if it didn’t happen in your area you wouldn’t have heard of it.

ElEmEnOhPee · 15/10/2022 00:03

I home school my DS after his life was made hell by bullies for years. I tried everything, police, parents, teachers, local education authority, governors and switching schools. The only time one boy stopped was after he and some other kids got my son on the floor (he was 10) and went through his pockets, I chased one of the kids and told him if he goes near my son again I'll smack the fuck out of his mother. If I didn't pull my son out of school I've no doubt I'd have assaulted multiple parents by now because no one does a damn thing about these vile shitty feral brats.

People on MN can be just as bad, someone will post about some bratty shit and the typical response is they might be ND or perhaps they've got issues at home etc - I DON'T CARE, other kids issues shouldn't be my childs issues. He's had a harder time than most (issues with his dad) and has been waiting an autism assessment for 4 years, multiple times at CAMHs and counselling (he's only 12). He's got enough issues to deal with of his own without having to put up with other peoples shit.

DS is due to go back after Christmas after a year of home ed, hearing stories from others on this thread and the news story in the OP I'm dreading it, I feel sick to my stomach. The bullying ruined his mental health and mine, his education has been impacted hugely and yet the bullying little twats and their families are unaffected by what they've done. Sorry for the rant I'm just so sick to death of people doing fuck all about bullying, children kill themselves all the time because of it and it's about time schools acted on their so-called zero tolerance to it instead of denying bullying happens in their schools (it happens in EVERY school).

💐and solidarity to every child and family going through this right now.

Glitterblue · 15/10/2022 03:33

That poor girl and her mum. I have a 12 year old DD and it breaks my heart to think of this happening to someone her age.

LINABE · 15/10/2022 03:45

Georgeskitchen · 13/10/2022 20:14

This is the result of 40 years of nambypamby Liberal bleeding heart policies. Slowly but surely any means of authority and discipline has been taken away from teachers, police,courts and parents. Add social media and young kids with smartphones and bingo you've got the perfect storm.
anyone who didn't see this coming must have their head in a bucket of sand

Agree. So bloody obvious.

TomPinch · 15/10/2022 05:34

Georgeskitchen · 13/10/2022 20:14

This is the result of 40 years of nambypamby Liberal bleeding heart policies. Slowly but surely any means of authority and discipline has been taken away from teachers, police,courts and parents. Add social media and young kids with smartphones and bingo you've got the perfect storm.
anyone who didn't see this coming must have their head in a bucket of sand

It happened in Glasgow, a city which has always had a streak of crazy.

40 years ago - 1982 - this wouldn't even have been news.

ImustLearn2Cook · 15/10/2022 05:57

nothingmuchaboutjerry · 13/10/2022 22:28

I've name changed just to comment on this thread as sadly we're going through exactly the same thing and I want to try protect my daughters identity. But I'll share a snippet of her injuries...and these injuries are 5 days after the event. She was followed, thrown to the ground, held down and stamped and kicked on by two other girls until she was unconscious. I've only shown one eye, but both are equally as bad. Broken nose but thankfully no fractured skull. And what are the police doing? NOTHING, as it's their first offence. What are the school doing? NOTHING, as no other school will accept the two girls responsible, and it occurred just outside the school grounds. So, my daughter has now been out of school for 3 weeks whilst they continue to receive their education. The system stinks.

@nothingmuchaboutjerry I am so sorry this happened to your dd.

Throughout my lifetime I have seen time and time again bullies getting away with violence and aggression. In schools, workplaces etc.

If violence and bullying is getting worse then it is for this reason. Every time someone gets away with that kind of behaviour they are more inclined to repeat it and up the ante. If I can get away with this what more can I get away with type of thinking. It’s called operant conditioning.

Anti bullying policies only work if they are followed through and applied.

Bramblejoos · 15/10/2022 06:22

In days gone by you got your big brother to beat up the perpetrator/s.

mycatisannoying · 15/10/2022 07:18

slowquickstep · 13/10/2022 20:46

Every single parent of every little bitch in that video will recognise their Daughter, what have they done about it ? bugger all i bet. I would imagine the little cos are still out every night drinking. We have huge problems here in the central belt with feral children. A local bus station in a major town has to close after 6p.m every night because of feral brats like that lot on the video. We have allowed a generation to go without discipline and this is the outcome.

Like they'd ever give a shit!

Itsokay2020 · 15/10/2022 07:26

Can we please stop blaming the police, social services, government, schools etc and focus on the real cause of feral behaviour which is dysfunctional parents/families.

In the vast majority of cases, when you meet the parent(s) you realise in seconds that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. The parents simply don’t understand how to parent and absolutely cannot say ‘no’ to their child and won’t believe a bad word said about their child.

These parents have not had control of their child since they were 3 or 4, and it’s then too late. Expectations? Boundaries? These parents have no idea what they are/what these words mean! Communication? Talking about rights and wrongs? Don’t be silly!

Why do we blame everyone else but the parents? In my line of work, I have seen enough to know that unless parents learn how to parent, learn how to say no (and understand that it’s perfectly acceptable to say no), set boundaries and expectations and have meaningful conversations with their children about behaviour and conduct, this continue for generations to come. Parents must understand their responsibilities and society should not accept feral, criminal and disruptive behaviour within their communities and feel empowered to stand up to it.

As for where the responsibility lies when an assault takes place in the vicinity of the school - the answer is that both the Police and school should act if the school uniform is worn. The pupils can be sanctioned for bringing the school into disrepute (and a good headteacher will ensure this is part of the school’s behaviour policy) and the Police should always investigate where an allegation of assault has been made. Make a lot of noise if they don’t.

Children have a right to an education, the perpetrators of these assaults should be the ones removed and sent to a pupil referral unit or educated via virtual schools.

ByTheGrace · 15/10/2022 07:29

This is how bullies get away with it in schools. It's not just one in one, they rope their mates in so the victim isn't believed, or make up tales about the victim. It becomes, well there were witnesses (the bully's friends). Nothing can be done if it involves a big group bullying, even if the teachers know who is responsible, it just becomes easier to push the victim out. We've been there and I'm so sick of it.

Vaccine001 · 15/10/2022 07:30

Disability hate crime too

Bramblejoos · 15/10/2022 07:53

So a surestart programme to catch useless parents early would be the best solution.
I'm old enough to have lived through the time when having a 'naughty' child was embarrassing and shaming so you made sure your child towed the line.
Some people are shameless now but you can't say that.

woodhill · 15/10/2022 11:38

Itsokay2020 · 15/10/2022 07:26

Can we please stop blaming the police, social services, government, schools etc and focus on the real cause of feral behaviour which is dysfunctional parents/families.

In the vast majority of cases, when you meet the parent(s) you realise in seconds that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree. The parents simply don’t understand how to parent and absolutely cannot say ‘no’ to their child and won’t believe a bad word said about their child.

These parents have not had control of their child since they were 3 or 4, and it’s then too late. Expectations? Boundaries? These parents have no idea what they are/what these words mean! Communication? Talking about rights and wrongs? Don’t be silly!

Why do we blame everyone else but the parents? In my line of work, I have seen enough to know that unless parents learn how to parent, learn how to say no (and understand that it’s perfectly acceptable to say no), set boundaries and expectations and have meaningful conversations with their children about behaviour and conduct, this continue for generations to come. Parents must understand their responsibilities and society should not accept feral, criminal and disruptive behaviour within their communities and feel empowered to stand up to it.

As for where the responsibility lies when an assault takes place in the vicinity of the school - the answer is that both the Police and school should act if the school uniform is worn. The pupils can be sanctioned for bringing the school into disrepute (and a good headteacher will ensure this is part of the school’s behaviour policy) and the Police should always investigate where an allegation of assault has been made. Make a lot of noise if they don’t.

Children have a right to an education, the perpetrators of these assaults should be the ones removed and sent to a pupil referral unit or educated via virtual schools.

You are absolutely right but everyone involved seems to tread on egg shells as there is always an excuse and someone else's fault for the bad behaviour itms

WotsitsMadeIn1927 · 19/10/2022 18:40

This makes me so bloody angry. That poor girl. Her poor mum.

Kids today are really something else and I watch my two like a hawk. I’ve always told both mine (two boys aged 18 and 14) if they were to ever witness any fights or other children being attacked to contact me (so they don’t get any backlash for telling) and I would contact the necessary people (parents, school, police). Never ever to record it either.
Every child who recorded that on their phones should also be held accountable too.

I’m so glad the culprit has been charged. Hopefully it will give the girl some closure and be a future deterrent to others.

Georgeskitchen · 19/10/2022 19:35

There 2 hotspots for this kind of behaviour close to where I live. There are rumblings of vigilante groups forming to put a stop to this, given that the police have no real powers anymore except to take the little scrotes back home to their parents. These children are the same ones time after Time and the cops know exactly who they are.
Unless the powers that be start to get tough with proper punishments I can see towns and cities around the country starting to take matters into their own hands.
Examples of recent behaviour:
Standing on Bridges throwing rocks at vehicles
Targeting the elderly and disabled in their own homes. Banging on windows, throwing fireworks, causing mayhem in supermarkets.
Speeding on mopeds, helmetless ,through traffic with 2 or 3 riding pillion.
Bring on the vigilantes I say!!

FistFullOfRegrets · 19/10/2022 19:55

StanVic49 · 13/10/2022 21:03

Absolutely sickens me.

I found myself in a similar position to this a few weeks ago. Teenagers so called friends invites her out and led her to a group who didn’t like her as she was the new girl in town. Granted she was not beaten to this extent but to listen to your daughter crying and screaming on the phone whilst boys are kicking her and trying to push her in front of cars is one of the worst things you could hear as a parent. I’ll be forever grateful to the business owner who got her and kept her safe. It was all videoed and sent around to other pupils. It’s currently in the hands of the police and all perpetrators have been identified. It’s been awful.

Such a heartbreaking article to read

@StanVic49 i am so sorry to hear about that happening to your DD, how is she doing? I hope they do something serious to the feral little fucks. Do they still have borstals these days??

Poor Little Abbie & her Mum. I hope they get the support they need to do what they need to do. Move house/therapy/change schools, whatever they need. & I hope those little fuckers get properly punished too.

Beezknees · 19/10/2022 20:05

Georgeskitchen · 19/10/2022 19:35

There 2 hotspots for this kind of behaviour close to where I live. There are rumblings of vigilante groups forming to put a stop to this, given that the police have no real powers anymore except to take the little scrotes back home to their parents. These children are the same ones time after Time and the cops know exactly who they are.
Unless the powers that be start to get tough with proper punishments I can see towns and cities around the country starting to take matters into their own hands.
Examples of recent behaviour:
Standing on Bridges throwing rocks at vehicles
Targeting the elderly and disabled in their own homes. Banging on windows, throwing fireworks, causing mayhem in supermarkets.
Speeding on mopeds, helmetless ,through traffic with 2 or 3 riding pillion.
Bring on the vigilantes I say!!

This happened where I live. A group of 3 brothers terrorised the town. They had all been kicked out of school so they just hung around town all day. Everyone knew them. One day a video ended up on social media of them beating up another boy with SEN. Someone decided enough was enough and to take matters into their own hands and went round to their house and threw bricks through their windows. They ended up being moved away by the council.

CafeCremeMerci · 19/10/2022 20:22

@Georgeskitchen I do agree lack of discipline at home is the root cause. I grew up in the 70's/80's when corporal punishment (for boys) was allowed in schools & 'do you want a smack' (on your bum!) was heard from parents when kids were misbehaving. I was only smacked a couple of times, but I knew when my Dad said it, I was pushing my luck far too bloody far.

im talking about bum snacking, not beating. I definitely think that it was far better than kids thinking they can do whatever the fuck they like All Rights, No Responsibilities.

the y5 upwards kids around here, a 'nice' area, have become feral. They know there's absolutely no consequences for their behaviour. None.

Silverangels · 19/10/2022 20:59

My dd had just started secondary school
she was walking home,about a week into first term,when two boys in her year jumped her
she was badly shaken,bruised,her bag and uniform ripped to bits (her top half was left with just a bra and a shredded jumper)
the boys where feral-they had a mother who could see her boys stab someone or mug an old lady-and she’d still swear blind it wasn’t them
both boys (and the family) where well known for all the wrong reasons in the area
thankfully,a friend of my mothers grabbed the pair of them and got her to safety
school did fuck all-they where not on school grounds,police did nothing-there was no cctv and the mother went apeshit at me naming her boys as the ones who where violent towards a girl and threatened me (she didn’t get far-I bit back and she was amazed someone stood up to her)
its a joke-the system is broken and it needs fixing-we need to get back a clip behind the ear from the neighbour and again when kids get home and less about their ‘rights’ at the expense of the victims
teachers need parents to back them up and less soft soaping with punishments-step out of line and you deal with the consequences

(both boys are now in prison-one for rape and attempted murder and the other for drug dealing and trying to rob a bank-and mummy is still bleating that the sun shines out of their arses and are innocent)

Galaktoboureko · 19/10/2022 21:24

Girls are much crueler than boys IME.

What happens in other countries is even worse. There sees to be a trend in Asian (China etc) and Eastern European countries of girls ganging up and beating/stripping another girl naked and posting it online. That would scar anybody for life.

ParsleySageRosemary · 20/10/2022 18:40

Galaktoboureko · 19/10/2022 21:24

Girls are much crueler than boys IME.

What happens in other countries is even worse. There sees to be a trend in Asian (China etc) and Eastern European countries of girls ganging up and beating/stripping another girl naked and posting it online. That would scar anybody for life.

…I’m surprised you felt the need to drop that little gem here to support a misogynistic assertion.

I don’t know Asia so can’t comment on the trend you claim, but in general male violence is rather more common.