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AIBU?

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To never let her have the flu vaccine ever again?

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Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:43

DD2 had the flu vaccine yesterday, was fine in herself but refused to nap and slept about 2 hours last night. This morning woke up snotty with a cough and hasn't stopped crying most of the day. Still hasn't had her nap and again not sleeping tonight, I've given calpol but she's still crying at me and refusing point blank to go to sleep, I've tried cuddles, stories, her bed, my bed and nothing. She's so tired but just lying there awake, I'm at a total loss of what to do, I'm so tired.

AIBU to never agree to her having the vaccine ever again

Then again I'm sure if she did have flu it would be 10 times worse 😭

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Quackpot · 09/10/2022 23:46

It's better than getting flu. I think people forget that flu isn't a cold, it's a potentially fatal virus. If she's in the eligible vaccine group she must be at risk.

Henddraig · 09/10/2022 23:47

Ah, it sucks but it is just a coincidence that she has a cold at the same time. Hope she’s feeling better soon and you both get some sleep!

Discovereads · 09/10/2022 23:48

Was it the nasal one? If so consider calling GP and letting them know the reaction and symptoms. They may be able to offer the flu jab instead next year.

MajorCarolDanvers · 09/10/2022 23:51

Way better than flu.

Last time I had flu I was in bed for 3 weeks and was really unwell.

SugarNspices · 09/10/2022 23:52

My friend said the same about her daughter stopped it and a couple of years later she caught the flu. She went to a & e her temp was so high, they said it was flu. She was really ill for two weeks, not properly better for a month she lost a lot of weight. She gets the flu vaccination in school again now.

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Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:52

Yup it's the nasal one. The nurse did say this generally happens where they get cold symptoms, she said it should last 24 hours.
I didn't know she could have the jab, I may ask about that next year.

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LittleBearPad · 09/10/2022 23:53

She’s got a cold.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 09/10/2022 23:55

DS (nearly 10) was poorly from the nasal spray the first year he could have it. He's had the jab every year since. I have to take him to the gp for it rather than having it in school when they do the spray but I'll take that over the state he was in after the spray.

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Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:56

I think all rational thoughts have gone out the window through sleep deprivation, tempted to take her for a drive in the car.

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Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:57

@Milkand2sugarsplease she has it done at surgery anyway as not in school yet, she'll be 3 next year, will they do the jab that young?

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Milkand2sugarsplease · 10/10/2022 00:05

@Goingforplatinum yes, they can do the jab at any age. DS only ever had the first spray and had a jab ever since.

I remember taking DS out for drives all the time in the thick of all his respiratory issues as a toddler. We tried absolutely everything and he just couldn't stop coughing constantly. I'd end up nipping him to tesco for a wander and the fresh air and being upright seemed to reset something and help him get some sleep when we got back. I was really lucky that he was good at going back to bed and he wanted to be asleep - I know some children would really fight going to bed after getting up and going out.

Other things we tried;

Calpol plug in.
Steam in the bathroom.
Warm drink.
Sitting up watching tv to take his mind off it.

Getting out in the fresh air was the only thing that helped some nights. It was hard work having to function on so little sleep. He ended up on steroids a few times to try to help.

Palmtree9 · 10/10/2022 00:06

Actual flu is horrendous, it wipes me out for a month last year. I'll be paying for my vaccine eah year now. I know it's tough to see the little ones react, but it's honestly better than seeing them with it.

Discovereads · 10/10/2022 00:07

Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:52

Yup it's the nasal one. The nurse did say this generally happens where they get cold symptoms, she said it should last 24 hours.
I didn't know she could have the jab, I may ask about that next year.

Not every child can. My DC with asthma all did. If your DD doesn’t have a qualifying medical condition, objecting to the pork gelatine in the nasal spray will do it.

”Some children will be offered the injected flu vaccine if they have:

a severely weakened immune system
asthma that's being treated with steroid tablets or has needed intensive care in hospital
a flare-up of asthma symptoms (such as they've been wheezy in the past 72 hours or are currently wheezy) and need to use a reliever inhaler more than usual
had an allergic reaction to a flu vaccine in the past
a condition that needs salicylate treatment
Children will also be offered the injected flu vaccine if they live with somebody with a severely weakened immune system who requires isolation (for example, someone who has had a bone marrow transplant).

If you're not sure, check with the school aged immunisation service team, the nurse or GP at your surgery, or the specialist if your child has hospital care.

The nasal spray vaccine contains small traces of pork gelatine. If you do not accept the use of pork gelatine in medical products, the injected vaccine is available as an alternative.

Injected flu vaccines are given into the muscle of the upper arm or the thigh for children under 1 year.”
www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/child-flu-vaccine/

The jab has fewer side effects as it’s virus components, whereas the nasal spray is a live (but weakened, called attenuated) virus vaccine.

ofwarren · 10/10/2022 00:10

Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:57

@Milkand2sugarsplease she has it done at surgery anyway as not in school yet, she'll be 3 next year, will they do the jab that young?

Yes, my son has had the jab every year since he was born as he has an organ transplant and can't have the spray.
The spray is a live vaccine and the jab is not.

Cw112 · 10/10/2022 00:12

It's so hard watching them be poorly but this is one of those times when it's almost (because you're not actually being cruel at all) being cruel to be kind. I understand where some kids have had really severe reactions to certain vaccines parents being very wary of that going forwards but those are pretty normal reactions and if she's eligible for it then the reality would probably be much worse.

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Goingforplatinum · 10/10/2022 00:13

I know its better then getting flu. I was like it after her baby immunisations, had the first lot and was poorly and didn't sleep for a few days, was adamant she wasn't having the second lot.
I just don't think she copes well with vaccines, or maybe it's the doctors surgery as she's only ever been there for her vaccines and never anything else.
(I did take her back for the second lot)

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curlymom · 10/10/2022 00:22

Sorry to hear she’s poorly. Maybe she was brewing a virus at vaccination time and it’s a coincidence. Hope she’s better soon x

Fadeout83 · 10/10/2022 00:23

Obviously the sleep deprivation talking because of course you should give your kid vaccines. No one “copes well” with vaccines - and frankly she doesn’t sound too bad for a little one. Hope she feels better soon.

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Goingforplatinum · 10/10/2022 00:25

She's finally fallen asleep. On my bed, on top of the duvet with her feet on my pillow and head down the bottom of the bed 🤦🏼‍♀️. I'm not even going to attempt to move her. I'll just balance on the edge of the bed I think tonight.

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AuntTwacky · 10/10/2022 00:27

If she had the flu it would be 10 times worse

LizzieW1969 · 10/10/2022 00:34

Palmtree9 · 10/10/2022 00:06

Yes this. I had a really bad bout of flu 3 years ago, the one year when I forgot to book myself the flu jab. It turned into pneumonia and I was very nearly hospitalised. I’d never had genuine flu before then.

I’m sorry your DD is suffering like this, and you too as a result (I remember how difficult it was when one of my DDs was under the weather and couldn’t sleep), but really, you don’t want her to end up with flu!

BashfulClam · 10/10/2022 00:45

I watched a family member die from pneumonia. From that I would urge anyone to get the vaccine and not end up in the state they did.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/10/2022 00:50

Yes of course you’re being unreasonable. Flu is much worse.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/10/2022 00:54

Goingforplatinum · Today 00:25
She's finally fallen asleep. On my bed, on top of the duvet with her feet on my pillow and head down the bottom of the bed 🤦🏼‍♀️. I'm not even going to attempt to move her. I'll just balance on the edge of the bed I think tonight.“

aww. So sorry she’s been feeling so rough. Glad she’s protected though. Flu is horrible (which most people don’t realise - until they’ve had it.)

I prescribe ice cream for breakfast.

marblemad · 10/10/2022 01:38

It's literally a side effect you should know this as a responsible parent. By not giving her the vaccine again you are putting her at risk.

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