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To never let her have the flu vaccine ever again?

79 replies

Goingforplatinum · 09/10/2022 23:43

DD2 had the flu vaccine yesterday, was fine in herself but refused to nap and slept about 2 hours last night. This morning woke up snotty with a cough and hasn't stopped crying most of the day. Still hasn't had her nap and again not sleeping tonight, I've given calpol but she's still crying at me and refusing point blank to go to sleep, I've tried cuddles, stories, her bed, my bed and nothing. She's so tired but just lying there awake, I'm at a total loss of what to do, I'm so tired.

AIBU to never agree to her having the vaccine ever again

Then again I'm sure if she did have flu it would be 10 times worse 😭

OP posts:
Dacadactyl · 11/10/2022 20:52

My kids have never had it, so i dont think YABU if you decided not to give it to her again
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elephantseal · 11/10/2022 20:52

Side effects of the nasal spray include

•	runny or blocked nose
•	a headache
•	tiredness
•	loss of appetite

Should last 1-2 days. Ofc your dc may also have caught a cold.

Dd (18) had flu two weeks ago and had a bloody awful time - vomiting for 3 days, temp of 40.5, coughing all the time, body aches, sweats and shivers, muscle pain - vaccine side effects are much better than flu.

elephantseal · 11/10/2022 20:55

Nat6999 · 10/10/2022 01:53

I refuse the vaccine for myself every year now as when I have had it previously I could guarantee that I would end up with a chest infection that took multiple courses of antibiotics & steroids to clear up. If I don't get vaccinated I don't even get a cold

The injection contains no live flu virus. It's impossible to get a chest infection from it.

workiskillingme · 11/10/2022 21:18

Chattycathydoll · 11/10/2022 19:58

Could be a coincidence but definitely still worth getting the vaccine. I had flu as a child- proper flu, not just a bad cold- was so unwell, I was delirious and hallucinating. I can’t imagine going through that with DD, it was bad enough when she had chicken pox and reverted to newborn behaviour, sleeping and crying all day.

Yep
I'd love the people dismissing it as not needed to see a) how many kids are actually admitted to hospital with flu and b) how very poorly they are with it

KangarooKenny · 11/10/2022 21:21

The nasal flu is a better product, it works locally in the nose, as well as systemically. It is better than the vaccination.

KangarooKenny · 11/10/2022 21:23

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 19:29

Also they know full well that the nasal spray makes a lot of kids ill - they don't give it to children with asthma.

Yes they do give it to children with asthma.

gogohmm · 11/10/2022 21:29

Are you sure she didn't catch a cold coincidentally. I had the flu and covid vaccine last week and have a cold by chance, the two aren't linked

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 21:38

SuperstarDJsherewego

What i want to know is what is the proven benefit to the child of having live vaccine vs the jab.

If the nasal spray has genuine benefits, why aren't adults given it?

KangarooKenny · 11/10/2022 21:39

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 21:38

SuperstarDJsherewego

What i want to know is what is the proven benefit to the child of having live vaccine vs the jab.

If the nasal spray has genuine benefits, why aren't adults given it?

Because the skin in the nose thickens as you get older, so it’s recommended for under 18’s.

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 21:40

Kangarookenny

DDs paediatrician told me not to let DD have it and she isnt even diagnosed with asthma, just history of bad respiratory conditions and preventer inhaler in winter.

He said his experience was that lots of children get a bit poorly after it and it was pointless risking it when she could easily have the jab.

KangarooKenny · 11/10/2022 21:44

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 21:40

Kangarookenny

DDs paediatrician told me not to let DD have it and she isnt even diagnosed with asthma, just history of bad respiratory conditions and preventer inhaler in winter.

He said his experience was that lots of children get a bit poorly after it and it was pointless risking it when she could easily have the jab.

Well, that’s his opinion. I’d advise you to read around it and make your own decision, I know which I’d choose for my child.

Sirzy · 11/10/2022 21:46

The official guidelines is it is only those with severe asthma who can’t have the nasal spray (or who are on steroids at the time) for the vast majority it is fine.

apparently Ds is the only peadiatric asthmatic at our practise who is eligible for the vaccine rather than spray. He is under a MDT for his asthma at a big childrens hospital.

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 11/10/2022 21:52

Mine always have the jab and no side effects - so far. I also get it done in Sept/early Oct, when the flu season starts. No point in Dec or Jan (school nursing service).

FruitToast · 11/10/2022 21:54

The symptoms to me suggest a cold or croup (you mention a barking cough). Probably caused by parainfluenza (different to flu) virus which tends to peak in summer/autumn. RSV season is just starting as well which causes a barking cough and regularly hospitalises young children with croup and bronchiolitis. Without testing no one can say what's caused the symptoms. Flu hospitalised my fit and healthy DH (he was 34 at the time) and he neeeded oxygen for a few days. I don't think people realise just how risky flu can be. If you aren't happy with the flu spray switch to the jab. We now pay to get my DH jabbed (I get mine at work and the DC at school) to reduce our flu risk as much as possible.

serenghetti2011 · 11/10/2022 22:01

At this time of year there’s so many things going about at school it’s as likely she’s picked something else up but these are side effects. The majority of kids are fine following it. My son is asthmatic and his consultant recommends he gets his vaccine as he’s been v poorly a few times so needs the protection. He’s asd so doesn’t want the nasal spray as hates it, wanted the jab but then got a letter to get the covid booster and has decided he doesn’t want either. So who knows how that will go. Winter is scary for me, any cold can set his asthma off and last hospital admission drs has to alert picu of possible transfer so am a bit twitchy.

OrlandointheWilderness · 11/10/2022 22:02

Flu kills.

ItWasTheBestOfTimes · 11/10/2022 22:12

I am really reluctant to allow DD to have the vaccine this year as last year she had a seizure at school within an hour of having the nasal vaccine. She hasn't had a seizure before or since so doctor thinks it was related, although she's had the vaccine every other year with no problems.

ItWasTheBestOfTimes · 11/10/2022 22:13

Posted too soon. Was meant to thank about info on the jab as that seems safer and I don't want her to be unprotected L.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/10/2022 22:27

LindseyHoyleSpeaks · 11/10/2022 21:52

Mine always have the jab and no side effects - so far. I also get it done in Sept/early Oct, when the flu season starts. No point in Dec or Jan (school nursing service).

I though the UK flu season was between late November and March. My GP's not usually bothered as long as I've had it by mid November.

Was your DD in contact with the other child that was ill last week, OP? The vaccine can cause cold/flu like symptoms, but I suspect it's just as likely that your childminder has an outbreak of a respiratory virus in her setting. There's a fair bit of Covid and, I think RSV about at the moment.

AxolotlEars · 11/10/2022 22:28

I have had flu a number of times and wouldn't wish it on anyone.....at some point each time I have thought I would not survive it and frequently doubted my ability to walk to the loo which is on the same level and was probably dehydrated to stop myself having to get up to go. I have the jab every year. The reaction I may have is so very minor in comparison to all that

lllllllllll · 11/10/2022 22:29

I’ve never had flu in my (rather long) life and nobody I know has either. So YANBU as far as I’m concerned.

lllllllllll · 11/10/2022 22:32

Oh, and I never had the flu vaccine as a child either! Don’t think it was even a thing back then.

Twizbe · 11/10/2022 22:36

Last year neither me or DD had the flu vaccine and we both got it.

DD is 3 and was in hospital with it. It was not fun at all. She was so poorly bless her.

She's booked in for her this year as am I.

DS and DH both had their vaccinations last year and didn't catch it from us.

AloysiusBear · 11/10/2022 22:37

I’d advise you to read around it and make your own decision, I know which I’d choose for my child.

I did, and she had the jab, because i couldnt see anything consistently suggesting the jab was less effective, and if it carries a lower risk of side effects, in my book that's enough.

HikingforScenery · 11/10/2022 22:40

AuntTwacky · 10/10/2022 00:27

If she had the flu it would be 10 times worse

How do you know?