Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

DD in new Au Pair Job - Working Hours

116 replies

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:10

My DD (18) has just started an aupair placement in Barcelona (she is a dual EU citizen). She has been working for almost two weeks now. She has a contract for 30 hours. She looks after a 2 1/2 year old boy. Both parents work full time, one WFH. She has to get the little boy up, ready and to nursery in the morning, then pick him up in the afternoon and entertain / feed / bath and put him to bed. There was little communication when DD arrived as to tasks and working hours when she arrived. The host mother (HM) is now making a schedule for the week after DD asked for one. The schedule is specified to 5 minute intervals. DD is finding that all the tasks are taking longer as 1) she isn't the child's mother 2) the child doesn't want DD to do things for him when his parents are in the house, either during the day with the WFH parent or in the evening when both parents are home but DD has to put the child to bed.

On top, the HM is only planning DD for 20-25 hours a week and creating a "hour bank" for the hours DD hasn't worked to be carried over to the next week. She has been there less than two weeks and apparently has -7 hours. Next week she has been given a schedule where she should look after the child in the morning when she's supposed to be in her third day of language class (20hrs a week in total) as there isn't any nursery. On top, she has been told that meeting friends and going out twice a week is "too much" and this au pair position is a "full time job". DD is already ready to walk. To make things worse, the Host Dad is actually an old work colleague and we thought this would be easier than an unknown family. Would I be unreasonable to phone and talk to them and help my DD clear this up? Is HM being unreasonable? Carrying the hours forward isn't right, right? If it goes on like this, she have to work an extra month by Christmas...

OP posts:
AuntSalli · 07/10/2022 20:25

Darbs76 · 07/10/2022 20:21

Why on Earth don’t they put their own child to bed? They can’t tell your DD she can’t go out in the evenings, and the banking of hours, well no, she’s not on flexi time is she. That’s just silly. As others have said they want a nanny, but only prepared to pay for an au pair who is there to learn the language and work not just look after children 24.7

@Darbs76 that’s not on heard of it all, the young girl that we had with the shitty family the mother used to listen to the child screaming its head off with the au pair while she tried to settle it, mother just turned the tally up and left her to it. One time the three-year-old picked up both her shoes and slammed them at the wall, the mother banged the wall back. I mean wouldn’t you bounce out of your chair to see what the hell just happened ?

Skinnermarink · 07/10/2022 20:26

Louise Woodward was absolved of any wrongdoing, it is not clear what happened unfortunately. But those parents also put a young inexperienced woman under a lot of stress in a nanny role whilst paying for an au pair. She should never have had some charge of an 8 month old plus a toddler for hours a day.

Anonymous48 · 07/10/2022 20:27

Darbs76 · 07/10/2022 20:23

I thought generally it was more wrap around care. Which I guess it is if he’s at nursery in the mornings. But putting to bed when parents are home seems excessive

I agree with you about putting the child to bed. I only had to do that occasionally when the parents happened to be out.

The mother I worked for didn't work outside the home, so she was home a lot, but she quite often went out leaving me with the toddler, and I also took the child with me to run errands or take them to playgroups, etc.

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:28

RIPQueen · 07/10/2022 20:23

How much is she getting paid?

€70 per week plus room & Board

OP posts:
AuntSalli · 07/10/2022 20:29

@Anonymous48 we were far from perfect parents when our children were little but no we did not hire unqualified staff to take care of our children when they were non-verbal if we went out for the evening we organised a babysitter from the children’s nursery and paid them properly the rate that they would receive during the day.

SecretWorrier · 07/10/2022 20:30

So do you mean that if it takes ten minutes to pin the child down for his bath, she has to make up those minutes out of her own time?

AuntSalli · 07/10/2022 20:30

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:28

€70 per week plus room & Board

Absolute piss take. I used to pay my pay my au pair $300 a week to do before and after school run and one night of babysitting.

Anonymous48 · 07/10/2022 20:30

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:25

I was an au pair and I often had sole charge of the 2 year old. That's definitely within the remit of an au pair.

jyst because you did it, doesn’t mean it’s in the spirit of an au pair. It’s supposed to be a mothers help, picking up children from school, playing with them and doing homework. Otherwise what’s a nanny’s job?

To be honest, I didn't think it was a very different job on a day to day basis. (I had friends at the time who were nannies and friends who were au pairs.)

Nannies were paid more and often worked longer hours. Au pairs were considered more part of the family, with cultural and travel experiences provided for them by the host family.

RIPQueen · 07/10/2022 20:31

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:28

€70 per week plus room & Board

That is a fucking joke for 30 hours a week!!!!!!!

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:31

How much is she getting paid?

au pairs are supposed to be part of the family, eat with the family and get a room along with pocket money

InCheesusWeTrust · 07/10/2022 20:31

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:28

€70 per week plus room & Board

Nah.
Find her agencies and you can send them reuqests together. It eill be one great growing up time for her tbh and it must be very scary, but she can do it.

I know quite a few aupairs who had to leave lretty quickly. One was banned by family from eating any fruit they bought.... Had to buy her own from the pocket money...

Anonymous48 · 07/10/2022 20:31

AuntSalli · 07/10/2022 20:29

@Anonymous48 we were far from perfect parents when our children were little but no we did not hire unqualified staff to take care of our children when they were non-verbal if we went out for the evening we organised a babysitter from the children’s nursery and paid them properly the rate that they would receive during the day.

Fair enough. But plenty of families (with good caring parents) are happy to hire a local teenager to babysit, even before the child is verbal.

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:32

SecretWorrier · 07/10/2022 20:30

So do you mean that if it takes ten minutes to pin the child down for his bath, she has to make up those minutes out of her own time?

At the moment, it looks like it, yeah - DD hasn't done written down all the hours as a comparison yet, but she's already received a schedule for next week where her hour bank has been increased to 12 with no remit to enter her actual hours

OP posts:
MorganKitten · 07/10/2022 20:32

RIPQueen · 07/10/2022 20:23

How much is she getting paid?

AuPairs don’t get paid (meant to get pocket money) and are expected to do 30 hours a week including babysitting in the evenings and housework.

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:32

To be honest, I didn't think it was a very different job on a day to day basis. (I had friends at the time who were nannies and friends who were au pairs.)

well it’s supposed to be different, if you didn’t think it was different then that’s a problem

WulyJmpr · 07/10/2022 20:33

Sounds like slavery.

MorganKitten · 07/10/2022 20:33

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:31

How much is she getting paid?

au pairs are supposed to be part of the family, eat with the family and get a room along with pocket money

Normally as they live rent free they only get the pocket money.

Maray1967 · 07/10/2022 20:34

I got approx half that spending money as an au pair - but that was 35 years ago. I did cleaning, laundry and main meal prep in the morning and not much in the afternoon. I helped with tea in the evening. My two were 13 and 8. I went on trips with the family and was well looked after. Your daughter is being exploited.

InCheesusWeTrust · 07/10/2022 20:35

30 hours? Has that changed recently? I could swear it was 15 and mother's help wast 25+ a week

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:35

but she's already received a schedule for next week where her hour bank has been increased to 12 with no remit to enter her actual hours

au pair shouldn’t be receiving a schedule, it’s not a job and this person is treating it as a job.

Londonderry34 · 07/10/2022 20:35

I was exploited by a family as a mother's help. Hurt that my parents could not support. Honestly, speak up and sort it.

ForeignerMN · 07/10/2022 20:36

What is bothering me the most it the "hour bank" - she has no say in the hours she's assigned...
I have offered to speak to the host family if DD can't sort it herself - she is a very emotional 18yr old and it will most likely always end in tears.. I do want her to try first though - she wanted some independance and she needs to at least try, but because of the "friendship", I'm slightly more involved than normal...

OP posts:
ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:37

Normally as they live rent free they only get the pocket money.

the family should be letting an au pair eat with the children at least, they shouldn’t be buying their own food for meals

Anonymous48 · 07/10/2022 20:37

ivykaty44 · 07/10/2022 20:32

To be honest, I didn't think it was a very different job on a day to day basis. (I had friends at the time who were nannies and friends who were au pairs.)

well it’s supposed to be different, if you didn’t think it was different then that’s a problem

Maybe things have changed. This was over 30 years ago and was through a very reputable agency where expectations were clearly spelled out for both au pairs and host families.

CloudPop · 07/10/2022 20:38

This is all very wrong. I used to pay my au pairs £150 a week 10 years ago. They are there to lend a hand, not be a nanny. If they work fewer hours one week, so be it.

Swipe left for the next trending thread