AIBU to think we should NOT put the clocks back this year ?

[BirmaBrite]

Apart from the fact that it means the clock in the car will be wrong for six months, I just think it is a faff that doesn't give any benefit to the vast majority of people.

YABU - just change the clocks you snowflake

YANBU - It's daft and we shouldn't do it anymore

I would much rather have the light in the morning to wake me up and get me ready for the day than between 4 and 5 when I'm in the office anyway so whatever time it goes dark it's still before I leave.

No, mine's only 2009 and doesn't

See I'd rather have lighter evenings than brighter mornings. I have to get up, light or dark, makes no difference but light in the evenings is really important to me.

Been with this argument for yrs. I don’t bother with the car clock & always think if the clock didn’t go back , the time would be whatever & it’s still light when going home, bonkers Why are we going home in the dark after a days work? we are tired & that’s when mistakes happen on the road

@PearlLennox if you work for the City of Edinburgh Council, you have to work the extra hour for no pay. (so a 13-and-a-half hour shift if you work in a nursing home).
In the spring when the clocks go forward, you do get a 1-hour shorter shift on normal pay. But what are the chances of the same people being on shift on clock-change night in spring and again in autumn?! It causes a lot of grumbling every October.

working night shift when clocks went back was a 13 hour shift exhausting at the end.

Back to GMT in October and then scrap BST. That's what I'd do.

we hate changing clocks, but we are not the only country that do it, still a pain though

Most/all other western countries do. It's already a pain that we don't all change on the same date - there's a few weeks each year when meetings with colleagues in the US have to change time either for us or them. It'd be more of a pain if the time difference was different for for half of the year.

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We put the clocks back for a reason!

The reason we change the clocks is that "Daylight Saving Time" was believed to increase factory productivity in WWI. More than a hundred years ago.

My mother told me about a hideous period when they had "Double Summer Time", during and for a few years after WWII. People's circadian rhythms were only just recovering from the shock by the time GMT was restored in the autumn, according to her, and the cows never did get used to it, but persisted in wanting to be milked according to GMT.

Still, we can be grateful that the first idea was not taken up: the original proposal was for the clocks to be put forward by 80 minutes in total, in four steps of 20 minutes each Sunday at 2am during April and turned back in the same way during September. That seems to me to be a recipe for merry chaos.

The real trouble of course is that there simply are more hours of daylight in the summer and fewer in the winter in these latitudes, and no amount of clock-tinkering alters that. I am simply glad not to live north of the Arctic Circle and get no daylight at all for several weeks of the year.

@Bergamotte I'd be querying whether or not that breaches NMW regulations - it certainly would for anyone on NMW.

Thank you to the lovely people in the South who recognise how horrible it would be for us Northerners and Scots who would be in darkness until 10am 💐

Have you ever lived north of London? The further north you live more it matters basically. I have friends who live in Scotland, it already gets dark very late. I would prefer keeping on gmt year round rather than summertime

But that's the thing. Whether sunset is at 4 or 5 makes no difference, I don't get any light in the evening anyway

Its 7.45 am and it's still pitch black. On school days children will already be setting off to get buses, that's 11 year old in the dark on public transport. Yes of course the clocks need to go back.

It’s not called GMT anymore. It’s UTC (Universal Time Coordinated).

@Plumbear2 schools I expect would start after 9 and end nearer to or later than 4 if it was BST all year around.

We should put the clocks back to GMT and leave them there.

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YANBU and should be king of the world 😁

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Just love that this should be a boring thread but is the most entertaining!

It wouldn't stay BST all year. If anything it would stay at GMT. I highly doubt schools would change their timings anyway.

Today we officially get daylight (sunrise->sunset) here from 07:40 to 17:53.

On 29th October we will get daylight from 07:51 to 17:41.
On 30th October we will get daylight from 06:53 to 16:39.
On 4th December we will get daylight from 07:50 to 15:53 and the morning rush-hour will be back to the level of darkness it was five weeks earlier.

It really would be simpler just to pick one or the other of the two times we have available and stick to it, and not mess about this way.

Why? When we experimented before, it was on the basis of sticking with BST, and it would make sense to go for that option now.