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Aggressive Mother Involved My Teenager in Dispute That Has Nothing To Do With Her.

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MustWeDoThis · 02/10/2022 23:49

In a nutshell:

I was Psychologically abused as a teenager, because my Mother and Step-Dad were extremely aggressive, toffee nosed, paranoid, self-entitled...the list goes on.

Fast forward many years later - They knocked down my self confidence so much that I don't even keep mirrors in the house and avoid my reflection at all costs. I won't wear sleeveless dresses in the summer or anything that's not baggy. I have body dysmorphia because of the damage done.

Tonight: I was running 20 minutes late to pop over to my parents house. I had been getting the children bathed and bedded for school tomorrow and so the eldest could also chill out and just listen out for them (DD is 14, suffers with acute anxiety due to bullying and it's meant she has developed tourette like ticks, especially when placed under stress.)

DM calls at 19:20pm and asks where we are (I was going over because I owed them some money from when our bed broke. I wanted to drop it off.)

Mother: "Where are you? You said you would be here at 7pm! You really are messing us around. We put dinner on, we are starving. We decided to have a snack instead while we wait for you. We will eat dinner when you're gone." Her attitude was, as usual, passive aggressive, curt, abrupt - She made us feel awkward. We didn't know they were cooking dinner and I wouldn't have minded them eating it while we were there.

Husband and I said we would be another 15-20 minutes. We were feeling very awkward and angry at the way we had been spoken to (This is not the first time. The last time was even worse.)

We put the money in the envelope and just pushed it through their letterbox and drove off. When my Mother is in this mood, she is a nightmare to deal with and hubby has an interview in the morning for a prestigious IT job. She also knows about this.

We told her we put it through the door and left.

Queue several missed calls while hubby is driving. His phone is in his pocket. We decided to go and have a walk along the seafront. Hubby also needed to get back and do some more research on his job role, so he can prepare for the interview. He was feeling stressed.

We sit on a bench at the beach (It's 8pm). We call them back to say we didn't come in because we felt awkward.

My parents had driven to my house during this time, let themselves in, barged into my teen's bedroom where she was cleaning it and singing along to music.

My Mother starts ranting at my teenage daughter and makes her cry (she's now ticking away) I feel awful for not being there to protect her.

Mother to my DD, "Where's your Mother!? Mummy has been very rude by not knocking and coming in! She's wasted my entire evening! I could have gone out with my Sister! We've just been sat there waiting for your Mother all evening! Ring her and get her on the phone!".

My husband answered:

DM, "Why didn't you come in!?"

We explain how awkward she made us feel and we wanted to go for a walk so hubby could clear his head a bit, before we head back home and he does a bit of prep work. (8:30pm by now).

DM, "Are you coming back for coffee or what!? Ha! He can't really prep if you're walking down the beach! You've wasted my entire evening (like there aren't any other evenings.) You are so rude! I've not seen you in an entire month! I was really excited about seeing you!"

(Saw her on the 11th September for her Birthday. Bought her an expensive Indian, rare bottle of vodka, and some cream blankets because she gets cold easily. She's 57. She had the children for a day the week after that. She was adamant it had been a month. She also went away for 1 week in September. I work full time and study full-time, so does hubby.)

Queue the usual insults about being ignorant and rude somemore

She was ranting and raving on the phone. Woke up the youngest who got out of bed. So we got in the car to go home. On their way out my Mother shouted to my eldest, "and tell him he owes me another £10!" £10 that she spent getting the youngest two a KFC meal.

My parents never have the children over to sleep. They used to have the eldest and favoured her, but not even she wants to go over there anymore and they never ask if they can have them over. Thank god for my MIL!

We aren't well off by any means, but we let my parents use our Netflix account. I've just worked out that 5 years of incremental increases on Netflix (If they were to have paid half, which they don't) - Has meant I've paid £480 over 5 years for their share of Netflix. Petty to have calculated and I won't throw it in their face, because I won't lower myself.

My Mother has alienated her neighbours, the other stall holders who surround her business, and gone through numerous staff members. That's how aggressive she is. Everyone causes her an offense.

I just said, "OK then"

She handed my daughters phone back and left the house.

AIBU to not apologise for being 20 minutes late? Because I didn't know she had chosen to cook dinner and hold off on it? All of this drama over 20 minutes late running....

I can't even make sense of this thread myself.

Please, MN, do not post this to FB.

Thanks for reading this far.

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BoxcarMilly · 03/10/2022 09:59

Why on earth have theses toxic people got keys to your house?

Not being nasty, just curious?

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RedKitchen · 03/10/2022 10:01

Seriously, you opened your post saying you can’t wear dresses or normal clothes Beauce of the abuse you had from your mum. Please protect your children. Go NC. Your eldest daughter has had to do this herself, she’s so strong, don’t let your youngest go through this.
Change the Netflix password, if a bed arrives you didn’t order or want send it back, don’t fucking pay her for it!
change the locks. Tell your daughter you are sorry and some of the things that happened to you as a child and why you will be protecting her now. Protect your daughter or she will move out and cut contact with you to protect herself.

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Sunnyqueen · 03/10/2022 10:04

You sound as bad as them tbh. All just very petty, pathetic behaviour on both sides.

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steppemum · 03/10/2022 10:06

There are so many red flags and so many boundaries being trodden on in your Op that it is ahrd to know where to start.

  1. Why do they have keys to your house? I only give my keys to people I trust with my life. The fact that she let herself in when I was out and kids at home and then shouted at dd would have been enough for me to reconsider my relationship. But for you this is just incident no 5,000 in a whole lifetime of incidents. This is a MAJOR red flag.
  2. You say you want to be kind etc, but what I read from your OP is that you are exposing your kids to the same emotional abuse that you suffered yourself. Think of their safety and reduce your contact with them to zero.


On a separate point, I think if you say you are going round to someone's house at 7, then it is pretty bad manners to arrive 40 minutes late. But I hesitate to say that, because everything else is completely batshit form her side.
Normal people don't order a bed without asking and then demand money for it. Normal people don't barge uninvited in to your house and scream at your 14 year old normal people.... well, pretty much everything in your OP.
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diddl · 03/10/2022 10:07

Them being out for the day didn't mean that you couldn't have popped over & put the money through the door if that would have suited you better.

How did they know you needed a bed?

If it causes drama you need to tell her nothing.

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happy66 · 03/10/2022 10:07

Cut her off!!!

if you can’t do that just yet, Definitely do NOT borrow any more money from her, and hold at arms length. Have no expectations of her at all. Maybe keep contacts at once a month maximum. Keep conversations very short and do not tell her anything about yourself and what you are doing.

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Ithinkiwanttobealone · 03/10/2022 10:08

Hi OP,

Listen its clear you've been dealt a poor hand with your upbringing and your parents are awful.

But you need to step up now yourself and out of victimhood.

Prioritise getting counselling.

It's clear they were in the wrong overall but you are not taking responsibility for any tiny part in it - you keep insisting you were 20 mins late but actually you were already 20 mins late when they phoned you.

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ChaToilLeam · 03/10/2022 10:11

Go low/no contact with these awful people. They should not have keys to your house. Your children should not spend time with them.

I get that it may have been annoying that you were running late but you were dropping money off, not going round for dinner. They were ridiculous in their response.

Either way they treated your DD appallingly, and there is only one way you can prevent that in future.

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diddl · 03/10/2022 10:20

Also protect your kids.

She's already abusing the eldest!

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 03/10/2022 10:42

OP, there is little I can say that other posters (the compassionate ones) with experience of abusive parents haven't already advised. The FOG of fear, obligation and guilt is a difficult problem to clear.

I suggest you ask MNHQ to move this thread to 'Relationships', where you'll likely get more productive and helpful responses than the ones on this thread. AIBU also seems to be the go-to for the media in picking up difficult or controversial stories, so moving the thread might help to avoid this.

I'm sorry you didn't get the mother you wanted and deserved Flowers

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Wrinklefree · 03/10/2022 10:50

All I’m gonna say is, why the hell are you still bothering with them, I know they are your parents, but do you actually want this woman around your children to break them down also. Get your front door key back to start off with or change your locks.

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Notanotherwindow · 03/10/2022 11:13

Take the key off her, change your Netflix password and stop answering her calls.

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latetothefisting · 03/10/2022 11:14

Wait so she randomly came to your house, woke up your kids, and brought them KFC then demanded you pay for it? This is all very bizarre.

You really need to cut contact or at least hugely reduce it with her and change your locks so she can't get into your house!

You are complaining about her focusing on minor irrelevancies e.g. being 20 minutes late and not seeing you for a month whereas actually it's been 22 days or whatever but then by calculating the netflix cost you are doing exactly the same thing! Which is why you really need to cut contact and ideally have some therapy to stop the cycle before you pass her issues on to your own dc.

Cancel your netflix if its bothering you that much but i think your sums are wrong there - even today the biggest differences between packages is £5
5x12 =£60, £60x5 years is £300 not £480, and that's not even taking into account that the incremental difference between packages was much less 5 years ago.

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HoppingPavlova · 03/10/2022 11:32

I'm amazed at the number of posters criticising the OP for being late to pay for something she didn't want and didn't ask for.

And yet seemingly accepted, had in her bedroom and is sleeping on.

Seriously, if you don’t want something you don’t accept it and use it. The bed didn’t magic it’s way from the delivery truck to her bedroom surely, and why is she using it if she didn’t want it?

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Wrinklefree · 03/10/2022 11:57

latetothefisting · 03/10/2022 11:14

Wait so she randomly came to your house, woke up your kids, and brought them KFC then demanded you pay for it? This is all very bizarre.

You really need to cut contact or at least hugely reduce it with her and change your locks so she can't get into your house!

You are complaining about her focusing on minor irrelevancies e.g. being 20 minutes late and not seeing you for a month whereas actually it's been 22 days or whatever but then by calculating the netflix cost you are doing exactly the same thing! Which is why you really need to cut contact and ideally have some therapy to stop the cycle before you pass her issues on to your own dc.

Cancel your netflix if its bothering you that much but i think your sums are wrong there - even today the biggest differences between packages is £5
5x12 =£60, £60x5 years is £300 not £480, and that's not even taking into account that the incremental difference between packages was much less 5 years ago.

Think the KFC was a separate occasion.

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Pineappleflowers · 03/10/2022 12:35

Your mum’s a bit mental.

Change your locks so she can no longer access your house. She absolutely crossed a line there. Don’t bother asking for your current key back, she’ll just keep a copy. Change lock.

Either (a) you find a way to stand up to her and stop her damaging your children, or (b) go no contact. If she caused such damage to you in your childhood I’m surprised she’s allowed unsupervised access to your children, but assume she bullied her way into that.

Suggest you communicate solely by text message for a while so you get to say your piece without being interrupted. For example. “Mum. What happened last night was unacceptable. You went into my house knowing I wasn’t there and deliberately upset my children. All this the night before DH’s interview when you knew we were prepping for it. And over a ‘loan’ that we didn’t ask for and didn’t want (and which is less than we pay for your Netflix anyway). I’ve absolutely had enough of your toxic bullying behaviour. I have changed the locks and won’t be giving you another key. I won’t be answering the phone or door to you for a while as I need a break from your bullying. Please respect my need for space.” Then completely ignore calls/visits.

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RedKitchen · 03/10/2022 13:52

Sunnyqueen · 03/10/2022 10:04

You sound as bad as them tbh. All just very petty, pathetic behaviour on both sides.

I think you missed the bit about how the OP has suffered emotional abuse all her life from her, and her eldest child has already protected herself from seeing the grandmother.

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Hawkins001 · 03/10/2022 20:32

All the best op, sounds like a female Sheldon Cooper

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Brigante9 · 03/10/2022 20:45

Too much drama. Just cut off contact for your sake and that of your dc.

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