Would you support a nurses strike?

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If there’s any truth (little probably) in the headlines, 40000 nurses left the profession last year for better paid jobs/retirement. There can’t be any substantially significant net gain to the profession. Would you support strike action as we’re about to be balloted for it?

8 years at Uni? Doing what.

No I would not. I've worked in the NHS for more than 40 years and people would die. It's just not possible.

No ward based nurses will be on 60k for basic salary in the NHS.

I guess if you are at the top of band 7 and work permanent nights then you would be on just over 60k, because of the extra money for working night shifts. So for example the night theatre coordinator, or a night nurse practioner. But those job roles will hold a lot of stress and responsibility. And nights ruin you.

No ward based nurses work permanent nights (in my experience anyway).

Starting salary for a band 5 nurse is £27,055, top of band 5 is £32,934.

www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/working-health/working-nhs/nhs-pay-and-benefits/agenda-change-pay-rates/agenda-change-pay-rates

Nurses pay scales are easily accessible online, see link below. Nurses start on band 5. Band 6 is a deputy ward manager, a more specialist role or a role that involves holding your own caseload with minimal oversight. Band 7 is a ward manager or a higher level specialist role. Band 8s are management roles or advanced practitioners. There are additional payments for working unsocial hours, you are less likely to get these on the higher bands as they often don't require out of hours working. Have a look and see how many nurses are on £60k 🤨 www.nhsemployers.org/articles/pay-scales-202223

We still have permanent night staff nurses where I am. Maybe a highly paid agency nurse working 12hr night shifts, weekends, bank holidays on a specialist unit would earn 60k, they are not daft.

Permanent night staff nurses, as in ward based nurses will be band 5 or 6 though, so won't be on 60k. I've never known a band 6 to work permanent night shifts on a general ward. A&E and MAU and SAU yes, but not a general medical ward.

Agency work is lucrative, I could earn just over 60k if I went to work with agencies permanently, and that would be without working any antisocial hours as I have a specialised area of work. But depending on where you live it often involves a lot of travel.

I was replying to the comment about no ward based nurses work permanent nights which they do and have done for years where I am. All except one are b5, the other b6. General ward.

That was me. I missed out an important bit, I meant to say:
No ward based band 7 nurses work permanent nights (in my experience anyway).

Not: No ward based nurses work permanent nights (in my experience anyway). Woops.

What I meant was no ward based nurses will be on 60k, because they would need to be top of band 7 and work permanent nights to earn that much.

At 60k, then no, I won't support their strike.

100% support nurse / health care strike. Wish didn't come to it and they were giving a fair wage without having to strike

The people striking (for e.g. rail workers) are on seriously high salaries!

This is lunacy. We get told that nurses are on £32k? That didn't seem realistic to me so I was wondering how the hell they were being paid that? It appears they're being paid double it?

Go to hell.

Yes - it has been a long time in the making. Conditions are v tough for nurses and we have a big problem with retention.

Poster is back making up rubbish

You’re constantly wrong about everything

How do you know?

What am I wrong about?

You constantly make stuff up for reasons of your own. Bizarre.

Yes. The English Government needs the shock of their lives.

I never make anything up. If you're a nurse, how much are paid?

all this bullshit about 60k. You really don’t know what you’re talking about. You seem to be actually proud of your ignorance.

Honey - that's what I was referring to.

But if you can "work to rule" on that particular day... why not do it every shift? What will make that shift any easier to take breaks and leave on time?

A lot seem to work to rule as it is!

How about you do some actual research before repeating the badly-informed lies of other people? You might know what you’re talking about then.

Are you aware of the Agenda For change payscale? Are you aware of the nurse banding, what each nurse earns at what level? That info is easily available to read online. What poorly paid job do you do that needed 8 years at Uni. Perhaps if you seriously believe every nurse, even the ,lazy useless ones, earn 60k you might consider it as a career.