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Would you support a nurses strike?

200 replies

VirtueClapper83 · 01/10/2022 21:57

If there’s any truth (little probably) in the headlines, 40000 nurses left the profession last year for better paid jobs/retirement. There can’t be any substantially significant net gain to the profession. Would you support strike action as we’re about to be balloted for it?

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FatEaredFuck · 02/10/2022 01:04

Absolutely I would.

Disneydatknee88 · 02/10/2022 01:09

100%. Over worked and underpaid. I always wanted to be a nurse growing up but once I actually got old enough to choose a career I was totally put off by the reality of it

generalh · 02/10/2022 01:10

Yes indeed. I have voted for strike action as a teacher. I have never been on strike before but ticked the ballot box this time in favour of strike action.

giggly · 02/10/2022 01:13

Lunar270 · 01/10/2022 23:53

This isn't a pop but I've always considered people who give more than is contracted to be part of the problem. I appreciate there's an emotional aspect to nursing and healthcare but still. The large scale exceeding of hours is a huge problem and needs to stop. Management will always take advantage and use this to keep resource costs down. All this does is fatigue, demoralise staff and result in poorer quality deliverables.

Working to rule gets my support 100%. I definitely don't support strikes.

@Lunar270 i think what you fail to understand here is that if handover staff do not turn up, case notes need recording, patients need attention right at the end of your “paid” shift , letters to GP for discharge etc all need doing before you can go home. These things cannot wait until your next shift. Can you imagine, patient in distress, well I don’t want to be part of the problem of working willingly over my hours, so just hold that tear and I’ll see you in 12 hours.
Right you are🙄

CarpeVitam · 02/10/2022 01:19

Absolutely yes!

And no, I am not a nurse.

TooBigForMyBoots · 02/10/2022 01:19

Yes.

Nurses deserve a proper wage.
Nurses deserve decent working conditions.
If we want to retain experienced nurses and recruit for the future then we need to pay them properly and treat them right.🤷‍♀️

worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:35

No because peoples lifes will be on the line

Twilightimmortal · 02/10/2022 01:40

They can bring in the army. People won't die.
Strike away.

worriedatthistime · 02/10/2022 01:42

@Judijudi operations would get cancelled , people who have been waiting months maybe yeArs and in pain , the knock on affect is huge
Certain professions should not be able to strike where safety is at risk
There has to be another way
I hear such mixed things about what nurses earn ? What is the payscale?
One thing I would like to see is student loans written off after 10 years nhs service etc as to me they have paid back in service

KeyWorker · 02/10/2022 02:38

I’m a nurse and I will vote for strike.

CrustyFlake · 02/10/2022 02:45

Yes, yes, yes.

Dovtors, nurses, paramedics etc... We need a big shake up. I support any and all of them striking when they need to.

takeme0uttonight · 02/10/2022 02:46

I'd absolutely support it. Difficult job, difficult hours, terrible pay. I've watched my SIL run herself into the ground and you all deserve better. Good luck x

takeme0uttonight · 02/10/2022 02:48

DenholmElliot1 · 01/10/2022 22:02

I don't think nurses will ever strike. People will start dying if nurses go on strike so they won't do it. The government knows this and pays them poorly because they know they won't strike.

But I certainly believe that 40,000 nurses left during covid. Burnout I guess.

People are going to die anyway. The NHS is stretched beyond contemplation, and still somehow, nurses are at the bottom of the heap when it comes to people paying attention. I think they will, and should, strike.

Heswipedright · 02/10/2022 02:49

I was in the unfortunate position yesterday of being stuck in the back of an ambulance for a few hours with paramedics (they were lovely) awaiting admission/handover. They were chit-chatting between themselves and they couldn't understand how there are so many qualified nurses, looking for jobs, just out of uni, but the NHS won't recruit new staff. I was a fly on the wall to this conversation (as in I wasn't well enough to give my tuppence-worth) but to the paramedics it was a case of 'they keep over-working the nurses and not recruiting anyone else!'. They were baffled. Who knows why. Nobody in the system seems to know.

Sahgah · 02/10/2022 02:49

I’m a nurse, I did my training and worked abroad for 10 years before moving to uk. I feel embarrassed to be a nurse here, embarrassed to say how much I earn after 20 years. The only reason I don’t quit is that it’s all I’ve ever done.
I have been involved in strikes in my home country and we have much much better pay and conditions. We all still go into work on our strike but we close beds, hide mattresses if we have too but always admit any emergency.
We should start by refusing to do ANY overtime paid or non paid. Work out contracted hours only. However nurses are paid so bad that most rely on working overtime. Back home I rarely did overtime, I find here it’s the norm not just because we feel guilty that our colleagues would be working short on a shift if we didn’t but because it’s essential to survive here.
i believe nurses are propping up the nhs and it’s time we pay them and recognise their skills and responsibilities.

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 02:50

I would 100% support a nurses strike. And a junior doctor strike. And a paramedics strike (I don't think that they're allowed to though).

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 02:56

Sahgah · 02/10/2022 02:49

I’m a nurse, I did my training and worked abroad for 10 years before moving to uk. I feel embarrassed to be a nurse here, embarrassed to say how much I earn after 20 years. The only reason I don’t quit is that it’s all I’ve ever done.
I have been involved in strikes in my home country and we have much much better pay and conditions. We all still go into work on our strike but we close beds, hide mattresses if we have too but always admit any emergency.
We should start by refusing to do ANY overtime paid or non paid. Work out contracted hours only. However nurses are paid so bad that most rely on working overtime. Back home I rarely did overtime, I find here it’s the norm not just because we feel guilty that our colleagues would be working short on a shift if we didn’t but because it’s essential to survive here.
i believe nurses are propping up the nhs and it’s time we pay them and recognise their skills and responsibilities.

The only thing that I have to say against nurses within the NHS is that sometimes I feel like they're on a 'work-to-rule' schedule over here. The NHS has some fantastic nurses but it also has a lot of not so fantastic nurses. It's like everything, the good and the bad are everywhere. I think that it will be difficult to get a country behind them given the way that some of them perform.

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 02:58

There is a laziness about some nurses here which would be unheard of in most countries.

takeme0uttonight · 02/10/2022 03:31

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 02:58

There is a laziness about some nurses here which would be unheard of in most countries.

Fuck right off 😊 nurses in this country are facing a crisis they've never experienced before, on the same pay with continuously worsening conditions. The UK is truly unique in the way they treat their frontline staff, and not in a good way. And no, I'm not a nurse, I have a desk job. But seriously, fuck you.

Toddlerteaplease · 02/10/2022 03:42

Not sure. I wouldn't want to do anything else, even if it was better paid. Yes it would be nice to have more money but I don't do it for the money. However I'm currently sat on my backside with three nurses to one patient. Ask me on a busy, short staffed day and I might feel different!

Toddlerteaplease · 02/10/2022 03:43

We managed the junior doctor strike quite well. But people will sue if nurses strike.

Toddlerteaplease · 02/10/2022 03:45

@Stoptheworld1000 would that be Nottingham by any chance?

Toddlerteaplease · 02/10/2022 03:46

*die. Not sue. Though they might do that too.

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 03:51

The issue I see is with GPs. They are NOT PULLING THEIR WEIGHT! They're on hefty salaries 200k+ and they're putting pressure on every other service by their utter refusal to bloody work! It's ridiculous as you end up so unwell that you require an ambulance and A&E and possibly admission. NOBODY IS QUESTIONING THE GPs THOUGH!

Oldoldold · 02/10/2022 03:51

takeme0uttonight · 02/10/2022 03:31

Fuck right off 😊 nurses in this country are facing a crisis they've never experienced before, on the same pay with continuously worsening conditions. The UK is truly unique in the way they treat their frontline staff, and not in a good way. And no, I'm not a nurse, I have a desk job. But seriously, fuck you.

That's nice.

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