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Bring back capital punishment?

235 replies

LittleMaroonRidingHood · 01/10/2022 13:03

This thread was prompted by the news item about a possible discovery of the remains of a victim of the 'Moors Murderers'.

Should Capital Punishment be re-instated for murder ?

YABU - The value of the offender's life should not be negated by the offender's crime.
YANBU - When someone sets out with intent to deprive someone of their life, then they automatically forfeit the right to get any older.

OP posts:
AnneLovesGilbert · 01/10/2022 13:04

No. It’s murder by the state. We’re better than that.

Greenshake · 01/10/2022 13:04

No, no, no. It is not a deterrent. It is pure retribution.

Melodiax · 01/10/2022 13:05

Honestly I wouldn't give a fuck if some people were tortured, if they've definitely commited the crime, such as raping children. Yeah, were better than that, but I would still love to see child abusers suffer.

Melodiax · 01/10/2022 13:06

Death is the easy way out. They don't have to suffer if they are dead.

neverbeenskiing · 01/10/2022 13:06

Given the recent failures of our most powerful institutions, the levels of corruption and incompetence we have seen from the Met and those in Government why would anyone want the state to have right to determine whether someone lives or dies?

Sirzy · 01/10/2022 13:07

No it’s not a deterrent.

by the time the correct appeals process etc have been gone through it costs more.

two wrongs don’t make a right.

could you be the one to take someone’s life?

PonyPatter44 · 01/10/2022 13:07

Nope. Capital punishment is barbaric, and doesn't actually have any deterrent effect. Only shithole fundie societies still practise it, and I don't want to live there.

KimberleyClark · 01/10/2022 13:08

Never.

Brefugee · 01/10/2022 13:08

No. Next question?
(people make mistakes, and that includes jurys and the police. If you volunteer to be the person accidentally executed, fine.)

dalisdrippingclock · 01/10/2022 13:09

Absolutely not.

AlsoknownasOther · 01/10/2022 13:09

Sorry we executed you and then discovered you were innocent.

Ihatethenewlook · 01/10/2022 13:09

Melodiax · 01/10/2022 13:05

Honestly I wouldn't give a fuck if some people were tortured, if they've definitely commited the crime, such as raping children. Yeah, were better than that, but I would still love to see child abusers suffer.

Same. I’d be pretty happy to do some torturing.

Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 01/10/2022 13:10

No I don’t agree with state sanctioned murder. Though of course if it were my child I want the offenders strung up (but that’s why we have a legal process isn’t it).

I thought remembered reading somewhere that countries with capital punishment tend to have higher crime rates, rather than lower. So I’d suggest looking to countries with lower murder rates and seeing what they do.

I do think there should be longer sentences and whole life sentaces for people with multiple sex crimes, sadistic murders etc.

SoupDragon · 01/10/2022 13:10

Never.

(i don't have voting enabled)

AlsoknownasOther · 01/10/2022 13:10

Ihatethenewlook · 01/10/2022 13:09

Same. I’d be pretty happy to do some torturing.

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Sorry we tortured you and it turns out you were innocent.

wackamole · 01/10/2022 13:10

Why would you even think this? It's wrong to commmit murder so the state murders the alleged murderer for committing murder? May as well just make murder legal.

MassiveSalad22 · 01/10/2022 13:11

I think given how many political/institutional/societal fuck ups we have seen lately, we shouldn’t trust the state to kill off the right people tbh.

MsFannySqueers · 01/10/2022 13:12

No and I don’t think the death penalty would have deterred the Moors Murderers.

floorida · 01/10/2022 13:12

Death is the easy way out. They don't have to suffer if they are dead.

But some of the sentences are a joke

Beingannonymous · 01/10/2022 13:12

I am a victim of csa. I was devastated when my abuser died.
l was never going to report and try and get him put away but there was always that small hope that he would be found out and suffer. Dying just felt like he had got away with it.

mamabear715 · 01/10/2022 13:13

No. But as my DD pointed out yesterday, I wouldn't have let Myra Hindley do a degree in Humanities (oh, the IRONY) while in prison.. some folk do deserve bread & water only..

TortugaRumCakeQueen · 01/10/2022 13:13

Yes, we should bring it back. We are spending Billions keeping people alive, that can never be reintroduced into society and who have committed unforgivable crimes. They don't pay tax, they don't contribute anything and they are deadly dangerous. Why are we keeping them alive? What for?

Believeitornot · 01/10/2022 13:14

As was pointed out by the epically idiotic Priti Patel when she crowed for this, it does not work.

fucks sake. Why does this need pointing out?

Ponoka7 · 01/10/2022 13:15

Do we include people who have mental health conditions? Brady was a criminal psychopath. We get more lenient sentences to people who have mitigating circumstances, so that stops for all crimes then? If an autistic person is violent, they are now criminally chargeable?

Believeitornot · 01/10/2022 13:15

floorida · 01/10/2022 13:12

Death is the easy way out. They don't have to suffer if they are dead.

But some of the sentences are a joke

Imagine if they fucked up and killed people by accident?

point me to a country like ours, where the death penalty acts as a deterrent.

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