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Jack Monroe off Twitter

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beammeuphottie · 28/09/2022 20:28

The latest in the ongoing saga is that JM has left Twitter after being 'hounded off'. The incident that seemed to provoke this...someone critiquing a photo of her mums roast potatoes. It just gets more and more bizarre.

To be clear, I don't like to see public pile ons and some of the abuse directed at Jack has been unpleasant. But a lot has also been reasonable, polite requests for information regarding her patreon which have largely been totally ignored. And her supporters have to be some of the most cruel people on Twitter. It seems like it's fine for JM to voice her opinion but as soon as others do the same they are called out for bullying. And ironically subjected to vile comments from her followers. Go figure.

Am I the only one who thinks she's probably best having a little Twitter break? But eventually if she's ever to redeem her reputation she needs to show some transparency regarding public donations.

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JackTorrance · 18/11/2022 10:49

I think she has opened people’s eyes to the reality of cooking on a low income

See that's the thing - I think she helped entrench the idea that you can eat, and healthily, for £20 a week if you just follow her advice and stop being frivolous.
It's a very harmful narrative so imo she's actively caused damage.

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 10:49

RitaSueAndBobTo · 17/11/2022 15:26

I think momentum will start to build and so it should. She can't get away with what she's doing forever surely?

The patreon thing is really dodgy as is her trying to shut down where she donated charity money to

Sadly, I think she will. She'll dodge out of it somehow. Re-invent herself (and always as the plucky little fighter against injustice etc).

She hasn't been active on Twitter lately, or updated her "being sober" days (500 at last count. I suspect a Cunning Plan to claim that the bullying and harassment have pushed her off the wagon and it's ALL SOMEBODY ELSE'S FAULT!

knittingaddict · 18/11/2022 10:51

To be fair the ingredients for the horribly named Come To Bed Parmigiano didn't seem bad. Not clever or cheap, but not bad.

The loaf made with vegetable peelings is another league entirely.😱

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 10:55

JackTorrance · 18/11/2022 10:49

I think she has opened people’s eyes to the reality of cooking on a low income

See that's the thing - I think she helped entrench the idea that you can eat, and healthily, for £20 a week if you just follow her advice and stop being frivolous.
It's a very harmful narrative so imo she's actively caused damage.

I agree. Her "I can feed 3 hearty appetites 3 meals a day plus snacks etc and still have enough for loo roll and cleaning stuff*" makes people think benefits are too high, if anything.

Her "recipes" are appalling - pure glop. They taste awful (yes - I've tried a couple) are tiny portions - not enough for an adult, and certainly not a growing teenagers (hollow legs, those things have), and are nutritionally unbalanced.

She effectively says that people are just stupid and/or feckless - they aren't they are POOR, and no amount of clever budgeting will help if you haven't got anything to budget with.

She's dangerous.

*except shower gel, obvs 😉

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 11:02

knittingaddict · 18/11/2022 10:51

To be fair the ingredients for the horribly named Come To Bed Parmigiano didn't seem bad. Not clever or cheap, but not bad.

The loaf made with vegetable peelings is another league entirely.😱

The loaf made with vegetable peelings is another league entirely.

The "Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society" all over again . . .

Ingredients on their own aren't necessarily bad, but the combinations and cooking methods are appalling! Many of them are very fuel heavy, too. People can't afford to have the oven on for an hour to cook a beetroot!

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 11:06

AnonWeeMouse · 18/11/2022 09:50

Only because middle class papers pushed her as the acceptable face of poverty and their readers lapped up the sob story. she in turn told those middle class readers that the poor can feed themselves on a pittance and that aligned with their already misguided belief that the poor just have big tellies and watch Jeremy Kyle.

All that really did was feed into the Tory mindset that the poor are all Scroungers that don't need food, light and heat... That they can eat perfectly well on nothing..
That's one reason the government believe an adult human being can survive on £334 a month to buy food, gas, electric, hygeine, clothing, pay council tax. Etc.

She, in part, caused that belief to spread and helped the government and media spread the scrounger narrative as opposed to helping the less fortunate narrative. People fell for it too.
Benefit Street, Benefits By The Sea and shows of that ilk all fed I to the narrative.

The poor are lazy work shy Scroungers that take people's tax money and get big houses and bigger TVs, that have kid after kid after kid to get more tax money. Anyone that's ever had any dealings with people in poverty and unemplyement can tell you, those people exist, but their a tiny tiny tiny minority, the government, the media that includes JMs articles and blogs etc all feed into the notion that the poor can be punished out of poverty because they're all like the people on Benefit Street.

She's done shit all to help, only made things much worse and much harder whilst she flogged £20 books to people that don't need to save money on their shopping, that buy them purely out of middle class guilt and sanctimony.

Well said!

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 11:07

entropynow · 18/11/2022 10:08

As a student in the early 80s I used The Pauper's Cookbook and Cooking in a Bedsitter, both published early to mid 70s.

Both of these are excellent books, as is Bernadine Lawrences "Feed your Family on £25/Week"

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 11:57

She's baaaaaaaaack . . . 😱

Re-homing a dining table . . . .

JubileeTrifle · 18/11/2022 12:31

A 14 seater! Just what you buy new when you are poor and live in a crappy bungalow

Tired2tired · 18/11/2022 12:38

You'd sell your ridiculously huge oak banquet table before you pretend to boil soap surely

WaddleAway · 18/11/2022 12:49

JubileeTrifle · 18/11/2022 12:31

A 14 seater! Just what you buy new when you are poor and live in a crappy bungalow

A bungalow with stairs 😂

frogface69 · 18/11/2022 13:00

Awfullymolly has updated.

Vates · 18/11/2022 13:07

She makes me so angry with pretending to be poor. I used to find her inoffensive but couldn't see how she was helping anyone when I looked at her recipes. But I was shocked when I read all the information that AM had compiled. Jack Monroe is a grifter and fake.

CecilyP · 18/11/2022 13:07

She effectively says that people are just stupid and/or feckless - they aren't they are POOR, and no amount of clever budgeting will help if you haven't got anything to budget with.

I thought more, 'aren't I clever for making all these cheap meals' when plenty of others have been doing the same for years. Though I suppose she has been clever to get all the publicity and making a career out of it. She lost me as soon as she began, 9 years? ago, when she said her 3 year old ate as much as an adult!

Ingredients on their own aren't necessarily bad, but the combinations and cooking methods are appalling! Many of them are very fuel heavy, too. People can't afford to have the oven on for an hour to cook a beetroot!

I'd never followed her though have seen articles in the paper, but just after this thread started, she was on TV making a 'low cost' meal, macaroni cheese. Well can't argue with that, but hers had a more than average amount of ingredients one of which was bacon, and then it was put in the oven for about an hour. So turning a low cost meal into something way more expensive to produce.

CecilyP · 18/11/2022 13:13

Vates · 18/11/2022 13:07

She makes me so angry with pretending to be poor. I used to find her inoffensive but couldn't see how she was helping anyone when I looked at her recipes. But I was shocked when I read all the information that AM had compiled. Jack Monroe is a grifter and fake.

Well, she might have been a low income, single mum, unable to work with a toddler, but how can she still be poor when she has published all those books and has had all those TV appearances and her son is too old to need childcare. She's either pretending to be poor or has been ridiculously feckless or, perhaps, both!

Applesandcarrots · 18/11/2022 13:44

Absolutely laughing at the poverty 14 seater dining table😂
I don't even live in a shitty bungalow and would not be able to have anything else downstairs with this moster😂

chillinean · 18/11/2022 13:44

I think the tide has turned a bit. The fact this thread has been allowed to stand is possibly testament to that.

The TV and column work seems to have slowed, at least I haven't seen anything recent from her. And I think she's probably bad with money, but it's not right to claim the extreme poverty as she has been or to accept money on the back of that.

I hope she turns things around. Looks to something other than social media for validation and assistance. Perhaps get a job.

RitaSueAndBobTo · 18/11/2022 14:03

The whole banging on about how her recipes are free and that's why she 'rattles her tip jar' is also a puzzle.

Who else out there is charging for their recipes online? I can google any chef or cook you can think of and access the overwhelming majority of their recipes.

myrtleWilson · 18/11/2022 14:12

She's trying her usual trick of trying to bury the algorithm of bad news - often it's something like "what's your favourite boiled sweet from childhood' or "look viennetta!"

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 14:21

Tired2tired · 18/11/2022 12:38

You'd sell your ridiculously huge oak banquet table before you pretend to boil soap surely

You would think so, wouldn't you.

I mean - in her crappy, damp, mouldy bungalow with the stairs your 14-seater table would become warped and ruined anyway - even if you could get it into the tiny ,damp, crappy room.

FKATondelayo · 18/11/2022 14:37

RitaSueAndBobTo · 18/11/2022 14:03

The whole banging on about how her recipes are free and that's why she 'rattles her tip jar' is also a puzzle.

Who else out there is charging for their recipes online? I can google any chef or cook you can think of and access the overwhelming majority of their recipes.

Well quite. I don't think people usually buy cook books for everyday recipes but as gifts or because they look nice on the shelf or because they like the narrative or author or flicking through for inspiration. I like to have a nice peruse of a cookbook and get some ideas and occasional recipes but usually when I use a recipe I google it.

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 15:08

I shouldn't laugh.

If it were anyone else, I wouldn't laugh.

But bearing in mind what an over-dramatic attention-seeker she is - I'm afraid I DID laugh! 😂😂😂

Emotionalsupportviper · 18/11/2022 15:15

Applesandcarrots · 18/11/2022 13:44

Absolutely laughing at the poverty 14 seater dining table😂
I don't even live in a shitty bungalow and would not be able to have anything else downstairs with this moster😂

But then how would you entertain politicians and heads of industry to your 9p-a-head-5-course-banquets to bring home to them the poverty crisis?

Where would you display the croquembouche? Or the 20-place-setting Denby dining set you bought from a charity shop for 75p? And the solid silver canteen of cutlery you found in a puddle?

These people need somewhere to sit round and a folding card table just doesn't cut it . . .

RitaSueAndBobTo · 18/11/2022 15:46

The piece of paper in her passport has just about finished me off

As if.

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