To be seriously considering leaving this country?

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I've lived here all my life l, have all my family and friends here but I feel desperate to get out now.

Brexit was national self harm in itself (and has made it harder to leave) but I am done with Tory island. They have destroyed everything over the last 12 years.

Had it now. Country heading for collapse.

@Mascia @SimonaRazowska I have lived in Sweden and totally agree! The quality of life is great, especially for swedes, but I found it a bit…boring?

I love the banter of the UK and the people but I think it’s just because I feel at home and I love the humour. It is hard at the moment and I really hope as a nation we get through it and turn it around.

We are going to leave when DH retires - 5 years time. I’m Irish and he has dual citizenship of another EU country so we are moving there. I’ve started lessons in the language. I am a lot younger and far from retirement but luckily can WFH for most of the year and would need to come to the UK for work sometimes but would like that for the chance to see friends and family etc. Work will accommodate me when I’m here.

Headed back to the US next year with Swedish partner in tow (he is dual US - getting him sorted before we moved here was the smartest thing ever). We have no family or other ties in the UK and he does not want to move back to Sweden for many reasons, mostly because of that insular, limited life feeling.

The problem with the UK is that its a bunch of economic and political issues converging at once, and trying to resolve one will only cause problems with others. These are long term challenges, many of which have only been exacerbated (cynically in some instances) by the politicians in charge.

Our goals can no longer be reasonably attained here and, besides, given the 'new world of work' it would be cheaper to rent an Air bnb in London for a few months out of the year than to actually live here full time. Its a shame because we really have enjoyed living here.

Here we go again..... Every week

I think you've perfectly summed up why people are looking at leaving the UK. It's not that they hate it, it's that people feel their goals can no longer reasonably be attained here.

I would love to move to Germany. Or Switzerland.

An Indian friend who is a doctor just told me that there is a lot of talk amongst NHS indian doctors about leaving . What just happened has got them really worried as they believe that the press and therefore the people are against them.

It will be good if some people move on this country is to overpopulated anyway. Yes this country is far from perfect but I’ve visited many other countries and always happy to come home. Don’t underestimate how hard it is to start a new life in a new country with a different culture and language and no family support.

We’re moving to the US in a few weeks. We’ve got kids in primary school and a toddler and it feels best to go before they are in secondary school. Not that the US is a rose garden…

It might be overpopulated but there's a huge labour shortage.

It's an ageing population that needs a lot more working age people to keep things running. Conversely public services are broken as it is and we don't have the infrastructure in this country.

Also everywhere is expensive right now life is tough pretty much everywhere.

Got two years left and we’ll be gone. DH and I already hold dual citizenships and we have our leaving date.

My Canadian cousins are all desperate to get out and would love to live here. Grass is always greener!

We would love to but how? Neither myself of DH could get an EU passport via family history rules. Is there another way to move to a European country permanently?

Any idea of their reasoning?

Very similar to here: rocketing prices, inability to get on the property ladder, politics, greedy corporate overlords, two weeks holiday allowance, poor/crumbling infrastructure outside of major cities.

They love our proximity to Europe for travel, our 'cheap' (to them) food and our public transport.

Where to go to though?

I'd like to stay in Europe so I can enjoy the culture of city breaks, so Australia wouldn't work for me. (Also not great for popping back to see family) I'd also like warm weather, affordable housing, good, affordable and easily accessible healthcare, low crime rates and somewhere racially tolerant with good public transport (oh and low energy prices would be great). If anyone knows where such a place exists I'd be very interested.

YANBU, if DH and I were younger (he is already retired) or I had an in demand skill set, I’d look to leave. I fancy the US or Australia.

Sadly, I’m stuck here, but I’d urge anyone who can to go.

@Zogster

Re. Canada.

We live on the East Coast and I cannot praise it enough. Great for kids, very outdoorsy.

Yes, it is cold in winter, but I'd take minus 10 sunny and bright over 12 degrees and drizzle any day.

I earn more than I would in the UK, have four weeks vacation, along with 12 Bank Holidays.

Standard of living is much higher than in the UK. Feels a lot safer and less aggressive too.

Same here

I left the UK years ago, first for Ireland and then to Western Australia. We were living in London and it was just getting too expensive for us to raise a family there, we didn't leave because we hated it or anything! Anyway now it seems like a blessing in disguise, even before all the current shenanigans in the UK our quality of life is much higher here. Wages are high, houses are affordable (although good luck finding one, they can't build them fast enough), power bills are low, especially if you have solar (mine is about $150 AUD a month for gas and elec). We live beside a beautiful beach, and the weather is amazing (if you like sunshine). I Highly recommend it, although Perth is pretty far away from everywhere else except Bali.

I'm not saying any of this to gloat, I was on the phone to my mum in NI last night and I am very worried about my family and friends in the UK and Ireland. I am watching the Tory incompetence in horror and despair, I really hope things turn a corner soon for everyone there.

And where is this Utopia where no one suffers, everyone is happy, health care is free at point of use, education is free and of a high standard, jobs are freely available and well paying and the rich are taxed to a high enough level to subsidise those who cannot support themselves? Where big business actually pay corporate taxes, where politicians are not corrupt and self serving and where the poor, disenfranchised or just plain Forrin do not exist to fuck things up for everyone else? Where "just work harder" is the national motto and despite everyone having fantastically successful jobs, there are still a glut of cleaners, bin emptiers and shop cashiers to service all those successful people but....BIG but.....they are happy living on slops and dont expect and more or moan about their lot?!

Well Brits are allowed to live in the Republic of Ireland due to a long standing agreement and then I think you could apply for citizenship after about 5 yrs. Once you have citizenship in the EU you can go wherever you want in Europe.

When was last week's? And the week before that?

Just be warned re Canada--properly prices are eye watering. They've risen faster than in any other major economy.

My Canadian friend went back for a visit (from Japan, where she lives), and says she is never, never moving back there.