To be seriously considering leaving this country?

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I've lived here all my life l, have all my family and friends here but I feel desperate to get out now.

Brexit was national self harm in itself (and has made it harder to leave) but I am done with Tory island. They have destroyed everything over the last 12 years.

Had it now. Country heading for collapse.

Go if you feel you need a change. Where to though? Do you have an EU passport?
or options to move to somewhere else?

@BerriesOnTop I think there is/was a particular type of expat who spent lots of their career tramping from one expat posting to the next. A couple of years in each posting then on to the next. They did tend to live in expat enclaves with DCs moving from one international school to the next.

When we had the opportunity to move abroad we took it but decided from the get go that we would be as local as we could. This influenced the area we lived in and the school our DCs went to.

The career expats stand out. We probably didn't.

Yes they do but no country sets about destroying its own finances.

and where is our new PM and Chancellor? in a fridge?

I’m always interested in these threads about which utopia people are headed to.

but if you want to leave, and have the assets and skill set for another country to want you then don’t let the door hit you on your arse on the way out.

i thought all the anti British people were leaving after Brexit in their newly acquired Irish passports. Are you telling me that didn’t actually happen?

Such nastiness @OMG12 and others. It’s not anti-British people, don’t be an arsehole. It’s people with options who are prepared to look outside the confines of their current lives. Emigration and immigration will always be a part of life. Look into your family tree, might even find someone there. Stop being an arse about it.

But this I don’t get. It’s likely the government will change in a couple of years. So will you come back if the government change? What about all the other issues than a mini budget (that I suspect will be watered down). What about a long term view?

Maybe if you spent more time really considering why well educated, thoughtful people are even considering the land of their family and their culture and less time slagging them off for pointing out what a shit show it is then you might see for yourself what a shitshow it is and we might avoid getting into an even bigger shitshow. You can scorn OP now but I bet you'll be one of the first looting the local shops when the shit finally reaches your own front door.

NC for this one.
We are also making real plans to move - to Ireland, which is originally home for me but not for my English DH and kids. I’ve lived in the U.K. over 20 years. The timing of the £ crashing is less than ideal but also underpins why we want to get out and get some stability. And rejoin Europe both practically and ideologically. Brexit was a huge blow and this country has never seemed the same for me since. My job (very well paid) should be portable and I’m happy to travel a few days a month to London. Checking out schools and properties next month. We will miss London terribly - and will always love it - but miss very little else sadly. At a very basic level I am keen to live somewhere with more space and fewer people. I want my kids to feel part of Europe, which I feel a strong connection to, and I don’t understand the target state / vision for the U.K. anymore. If there even is one.

@OMG12 do you think this is something people decided rashly overnight? The penny just dropped? If you have options elsewhere in the world, with skills, family, money, why wouldn’t you? It’s not for everyone. Still plenty who live and die where they were born.

Oh get a grip, it’s not nastiness!! What have I said you think is “nastiness” I’m just pointing out what so many people said and didn’t do. I look out the confines of my life all the time. are you the sort of people where someone confuses the pointing out of reality as evil? There’s a lot more of those these days.

and yes, it is anti British to constantly criticise everything British saying that other countries are so much better you’re walking (although very few actually do once they look into it).

if people hate it here that much, yes leave. So long, find your utopia and good luck.

but please stop confusing the pointing out of reality with nastiness, that attitude is far more damaging than anything any government has done in recent times

We've been talking about leaving since 2016, and it's still our long term plan. We can't yet because of jobs and DC, but times like these I take comfort in the fact that if shit really hits the fan then we can pack up and go to a country that is governed by adults and not these Tory toddlers. Hurrah for mine and DC's EU passports. 😁

No place is a utopia, and I don't think anyone on this thread is saying there is one. There will always be challenges anywhere, but its up to the individual to assess their personal level of risk and what is important to them and make the right decision at any given time. That's not hatred, thats just logic.

We left for Europe just after Brexit and every year we’re gone we are more thankful we did. Every time we go back to visit, it seems more run down and depressing. Our kids learn in French and German at school, so they are well-positioned to live and work here as adults if they want to. Our healthcare, pay, housing, schools, and general quality of life things like affordable childcare and public transport, decent food quality, easy driving access to lots of nice countries for holidays all mean that our life here is pretty good.

People will always find something to complain about—sometimes you get British expats coming here and complaining about things like expensive consumer goods, grumpy shop assistants or dated online services. Clearly, no country is perfect. However, we feel so thankful to be here and would not move our family back the UK right now for love or money, because our quality of life would take a serious hit.

Unsurprisingly you've gotten a lot of snarky, passive aggressive bitter responses on here OP. How very dare you to try to improve your situation rather than choose to live in misery? 😄

We r off too in 5 years... back to husbands home country which I can't wait to be a part of...

you are very pleas at aren’t you?? It’s absolutely hilarious that you comeback after calling me an “arse” twice, and now an “arsehole” (3 times) with “there are ways of pointing things out” - most likely without any grasp of the irony😂😂😂.

Furthermore, you seem incapable of putting together any argument and can only make call. I’m therefore left with the following potential conclusions

1. you’re a pointless troll
2. you live your life by the maxim “it’s 5 o’clock somewhere”
3. you’re not very bright
4. most likely all 3.

I will be having a great day thank you. You too- hope the hangover doesn’t hit you too hard hun.

Whilst I don't endorse the rudeness, I think this is a deliberate misinterpretation. It's pretty obvious form the context they don't mean "all people who aren't going to struggle are arseholes", but that "people who aren't going to struggle but choose to come onto threads full of people who are worried and going to struggle and pontificate about how it's not that bad and people should just tighten their belts are arseholes." Which, let's be honest, they are.

DH is in IT and my job is done 90% on Zoom.
However, we hope to be at least semi retired in 5 years when we plan on leaving

Being anti-Tory is not rhe same thing as being anti-British.

Can you honestly tell me you aren't a bit dismayed at what Truss and Kwarteng have done to the pound this week?

It’s yet another part of the English attitude that is one of the reasons why we want to leave
know your place!

We are actively considering it but not triggered specifically by events economically this week/year. One of us has a dual citizenship which would make it a bit easier for us.

Did you actually read either of my posts or are you just on some kind of blind rant? You seem very angry. Have you tried breathing exercises?

Well this is it. If we get the Tories out, it would speak to a positive change in the national mood and would offer at least the hope of a government that might try and dig us out of this hole we're in instead of dynamite-ing away at the bottom of it. But I have really lost faith tin the intelligence/decency of the majority in this country to make that happen.

I never thought people would be so stupid as to vote the Tories in after the financial crash. But of course they did. I was then shocked that after austerity, people voted them back in again. I never thought people would vote for Brexit. Was utterly appalled when they voted in fucking Boris on a huge landslide. Every time I think people will have finally woken up to what mendacious, soulless fuckers they are and vote against them, they get endorsed.

So even thought it SHOULD be a total no-brainer that a marrow in a suit should be able to defeat Truss and co at the next election, I have a sneaking suspicion so many are just bloody stupid or actively malign that they will get back in again. And again and again.

@OMG12 I’m not a troll. I don’t drink, so no hangovers for me. I can’t remember your point 3. 👋