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AIBU?

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AIBU to think that money makes a lot of difference?

77 replies

Icantsleep3am · 27/09/2022 22:13

AIBU to think that size of income plays a huge role in how you raise your children and how you generally plan your family life?

This comes on the back of my DF comments, who is a nanny to 2 well-off families, with the same age children as my DC. DF keeps making unfavourable comparisons between my DC and the children she looks after.

For example, she invited us to dinner last week, and in the middle of the conversation, when my DS was talking about something animatedly, DF interrupted him, mid-sentence, asked for his age, and said something like: “Oh you are quite small for your age. My (let’s say Angus) is the same age as you but he’s double your size and plays cricket for his school”. Then she asked DS if he had chosen his subjects for the exams, to which DS said not yet (he's only 11), she replied: “Oh, Angus already knows what he is going to do”. She then went on to ask if DS was doing any extra-curricular activities at his new school, and when DS said not yet (he started secondary school only 2 weeks ago, and the communication with the school is quite slow), she said laughing: “Oh Angus’s mother chose and paid for his activities last year”. Her comparisons usually cover posture, speech, table manners, confidence, academic abilities, time spent on screens and so on and my DC always fare worse.

For context, both families she works are not just regular wealthy, but super-wealthy, with (probably) private jets, homes in different countries, children in top private schools, nannies and cleaners.

Our family is in the opposite spectrum – financially struggling, cash and time poor, both work full-time, overcrowded living conditions (this is relevant).

I suppose the children in the families DF work for come from a different gene pool than our poor DC, with extremely smart and successful fathers, mothers in both families are former models (which explains why their DC are taller/better-looking), whereas we are an average couple. Combined with the wealth and everything money provides, I think it is logical that their children would be taller, fitter, smarter, better-looking, more confident, more eloquent and so on. Their mothers are SAHMs, so have time on their hands to plan DC's activities, look after their postures, develop talents etc.

I can’t say we neglect our children: we work hard to provide what we can, cook balanced meals, pay for DC's tuition, sports, hobbies, we read, we talk, we go places. But working full time means we don’t have much time to guide, direct, manage or develop DC, most of the time DH and I are simply frazzled with stress trying to survive and juggle.

When DC were smaller DF's veiled comments were about my parenting skills, my DC's sleeping and eating routines, how Angus settled at 6pm, slept through the night and ate vegetables for desert, while mine did not. Am I right to assume that it's easier to keep a routine when you live in a four-storey mansion with a full-time nanny, than in a one-bedroom flat with paper-thin walls? Just to add, I am not resentful and contended enough with my lifestyle. Of course, I would love to increase income/upgrade lifestyle, but nonetheless, we make the most of what we have, our children make the most of what we offer, and although not in same league as those super-rich, they do well at school and are generally happy (which for me, is the most important thing).

I wouldn’t mind if the criticism was directed at me and said to me privately. I hate the fact that she says it my DC. But I can’t say anything to DF as she is quite vulnerable (she broke up from an abusive marriage, have terrible relations with her family) so I just keep quiet not to upset her. DF is also a very kind, caring and generous person. So my question is not about how to answer back, I know she means well, but do you agree the comparisons are not fair?

I would be interested to see your views, would you say:

AINBU - yes, money makes a lot of difference;
or
AIBU - you should compensate for what you can't give to DC in money's worth by long-term strategic planning and micromanaging. You should get up at 5am to watch tutorials on how to develop eloquence and confidence in kids, take out a loan and send DC to skiing/riding lessons, hound school staff to open bookings for after-school clubs a year in advance, hire a chef/dietician/personal trainer/stretching contraptions to make DC grow taller, force your DC choose their jobs/exams/subjects 5 years in advance?

OP posts:
Dannexe · 27/09/2022 22:16

Not the point you were making but DF is not a “kind, caring and generous person”

Quincythequince · 27/09/2022 22:16

Your friend is a dickhead. Tell her to get stuffed and stop with the comparison.

You do not need to keep quiet so as to not upset her.

Protect your son FGS.

chatterbug22 · 27/09/2022 22:17

How rude of your ‘friend’!

MyBuggyIsOutToGetMe · 27/09/2022 22:20

She doesn’t sound like much of a friend. Any chance of seeing her without your kids in tow, so they’re not exposed to such negative comparisons all the time?

phishy · 27/09/2022 22:21

I think your voting options are quite manipulative, soI won’t vote.

And you seem to want us to call your friend a dickhead whilst defending her yourself. What is up with that?

BigOldGalaxy · 27/09/2022 22:21

Your 'D'F sounds awful, and she is going to make your children develop insecurities.

I would personally get rid, or call her out on the nonsense. Why does she want to make you feel small?

TruJay · 27/09/2022 22:21

She’s not kind and caring though is she? And why is it ok that she can upset you and your children but you can’t ‘upset’ her by calling her out on her bullshit?!
And she’s their nanny? She’s not their parent so even stranger that she feels she has bragging and comparison rights to your dc.

Tuilpmouse · 27/09/2022 22:25

YABU for calling this person a DF. Why are you friends with them?

milawops · 27/09/2022 22:27

I'd tell her to fuck off and be "Angus" mums mate seeing as she's obviously so great. But that's just me.
Lack of money to spend on extra clubs/activities isn't going to do half as much damage to your children as being subjected to your friend and her snide comments will though.

oknowimscared · 27/09/2022 22:29

Your “friend” is going to badly affect your DC’s mental health if you let that carry on. She isn’t a friend.

IAmMeThisIsI · 27/09/2022 22:29

Unreasonable to think that money buys kids happiness. All that time Angus spends with nannies and doing activities sounds to me like the parents are paying for other people to bring up their kids.

I have a friend who grew up wanting for nothing with really rich parents. They also had a nanny and she was constantly carried off to some activity somewhere she didn't want to attend. It was heartbreaking and she used to CRY when she was going home. Our house was a three bedroom terrace and a single mother. She would say her parents were "never home" and she "didn't know her mother very well". It was sad.

Testina · 27/09/2022 22:29

Fucking hell.
You know that you don’t need any money at all, to tell your friend to stop saying things to your son that could make him feel shit about himself?
Why is her “vulnerability” most important to you than your son?
Sort yourself out!

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 27/09/2022 22:30

DF is also a very kind, caring and generous person.

I wouldn't say so. Your DF seems rude, thoughtless and not too bright. And you are quite wrong to believe you can’t say anything to DF as she is "quite vulnerable". She definitely doesn't care as much about you as you do about her.

Muddledandbefuddled · 27/09/2022 22:30

Why are you exposing your DC to someone that constantly puts them down? She probably does it to make herself feel better about her life, not quite really how crappy it comes across. But you either need to discuss it with her or step away

HighlandPony · 27/09/2022 22:30

It doesn’t make those kids any happier necessarily though. Or mean they will turn out any better. Being raised by others because your bloody mother was more concerned with her career prospects and making money doesn’t raise a well rounded individual. Some of us end up in care and just as fucked up as everyone else

sincerely
daughter of a career obsessed glass ceiling breaker who was raised by anyone other than the selfish tunt who birthed her.

TabithaTittlemouse · 27/09/2022 22:32

I felt for you until I read the voting options. You sound very bitter.

Testina · 27/09/2022 22:32

Obviously you should be stepping up and actually protecting your children from this shit, but if you’re incapable - at least get them playing “Angus Bingo”.

Blahblablahblahblah · 27/09/2022 22:32

Distance needed from this ‘friend’

Branster · 27/09/2022 22:33

I wonder how would the friend's own children would rate in her own view! I assume she hasn't got children of her own.
And she has zero influence on how the children of her employers have turned out,
Bizarre that she is making these comments as if she is proud about these children as if they are better than yours in some ways.
Tons of insecurities and unfulfilled desires there.

To answer the question, purely by visual observation, children of very wealthy parents do look better, healthier, stronger. But so do the parents in most cases.
Not always but in most cases I've personally seen.
It also depends where the parents come from. There's a certain polish and easiness which comes from growing up a certain way.

Abcdefgh1234 · 27/09/2022 22:35

First. You friend is not real friend. She is really rude.

to answer your question YES money make a big difference. I’m far from wealthy like angus mum but we are very comfortable. I put my DS in lots of extracurricular activities. Swimming, piano, tennis, etc. We are not always fortunate. When DS small we dont have enough so i just put him in school without any extra curricular activity. Because everything needs money.

so yes money makes everything easier and really make big impact on DS activities

catandcoffee · 27/09/2022 22:35

she's belittling your children and you're allowing it.
She's not a kind friend.

badbaduncle · 27/09/2022 22:36

I'd laugh at her and say, "Yeah, whatever, can you shut up about Angus" if she tells you how nice they are say "Yeah, well, you work for them, you are staff, we are friends. People like Angus aren't mates with the likes of us" and put her firmly back in her place. What a twat! And I am not talking about Angus!

Cheeselog · 27/09/2022 22:37

Obviously your friend is in the wrong but I’m a bit bemused by the things you said she criticised. You don’t need to spend any money to teach your child table manners or good posture.

Technophobic · 27/09/2022 22:38

Tell your “friend” to GTFO.

godmum56 · 27/09/2022 22:39

your friend is not your friend, she is a rude cow. tell her to STFU

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