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AIBU?

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AIBU to think that money makes a lot of difference?

77 replies

Icantsleep3am · 27/09/2022 22:13

AIBU to think that size of income plays a huge role in how you raise your children and how you generally plan your family life?

This comes on the back of my DF comments, who is a nanny to 2 well-off families, with the same age children as my DC. DF keeps making unfavourable comparisons between my DC and the children she looks after.

For example, she invited us to dinner last week, and in the middle of the conversation, when my DS was talking about something animatedly, DF interrupted him, mid-sentence, asked for his age, and said something like: “Oh you are quite small for your age. My (let’s say Angus) is the same age as you but he’s double your size and plays cricket for his school”. Then she asked DS if he had chosen his subjects for the exams, to which DS said not yet (he's only 11), she replied: “Oh, Angus already knows what he is going to do”. She then went on to ask if DS was doing any extra-curricular activities at his new school, and when DS said not yet (he started secondary school only 2 weeks ago, and the communication with the school is quite slow), she said laughing: “Oh Angus’s mother chose and paid for his activities last year”. Her comparisons usually cover posture, speech, table manners, confidence, academic abilities, time spent on screens and so on and my DC always fare worse.

For context, both families she works are not just regular wealthy, but super-wealthy, with (probably) private jets, homes in different countries, children in top private schools, nannies and cleaners.

Our family is in the opposite spectrum – financially struggling, cash and time poor, both work full-time, overcrowded living conditions (this is relevant).

I suppose the children in the families DF work for come from a different gene pool than our poor DC, with extremely smart and successful fathers, mothers in both families are former models (which explains why their DC are taller/better-looking), whereas we are an average couple. Combined with the wealth and everything money provides, I think it is logical that their children would be taller, fitter, smarter, better-looking, more confident, more eloquent and so on. Their mothers are SAHMs, so have time on their hands to plan DC's activities, look after their postures, develop talents etc.

I can’t say we neglect our children: we work hard to provide what we can, cook balanced meals, pay for DC's tuition, sports, hobbies, we read, we talk, we go places. But working full time means we don’t have much time to guide, direct, manage or develop DC, most of the time DH and I are simply frazzled with stress trying to survive and juggle.

When DC were smaller DF's veiled comments were about my parenting skills, my DC's sleeping and eating routines, how Angus settled at 6pm, slept through the night and ate vegetables for desert, while mine did not. Am I right to assume that it's easier to keep a routine when you live in a four-storey mansion with a full-time nanny, than in a one-bedroom flat with paper-thin walls? Just to add, I am not resentful and contended enough with my lifestyle. Of course, I would love to increase income/upgrade lifestyle, but nonetheless, we make the most of what we have, our children make the most of what we offer, and although not in same league as those super-rich, they do well at school and are generally happy (which for me, is the most important thing).

I wouldn’t mind if the criticism was directed at me and said to me privately. I hate the fact that she says it my DC. But I can’t say anything to DF as she is quite vulnerable (she broke up from an abusive marriage, have terrible relations with her family) so I just keep quiet not to upset her. DF is also a very kind, caring and generous person. So my question is not about how to answer back, I know she means well, but do you agree the comparisons are not fair?

I would be interested to see your views, would you say:

AINBU - yes, money makes a lot of difference;
or
AIBU - you should compensate for what you can't give to DC in money's worth by long-term strategic planning and micromanaging. You should get up at 5am to watch tutorials on how to develop eloquence and confidence in kids, take out a loan and send DC to skiing/riding lessons, hound school staff to open bookings for after-school clubs a year in advance, hire a chef/dietician/personal trainer/stretching contraptions to make DC grow taller, force your DC choose their jobs/exams/subjects 5 years in advance?

OP posts:
SweetTeapot · 27/09/2022 22:40

Ha! I could have written this exact post a few years back. My kids were younger and I got this off a friend too though the parents weren't as Uber rich as in your post but still considered very very wealthy.

I initially let it slide but the day she "tested" my DC to see what words he could read and then smugly compare how well "Angus"was the day I flipped. She never did it again and she stopped nannying thankfully shortly after that.

Willowswave · 27/09/2022 22:41

Your ‘frind’ is a horrible person and it’s really poor parenting to allow her to speak to your child like that without challenging her rudeness. If you insist on being her friend, suggest you keep her away from
your child.

HannaHanna · 27/09/2022 22:42

Willowswave · 27/09/2022 22:41

Your ‘frind’ is a horrible person and it’s really poor parenting to allow her to speak to your child like that without challenging her rudeness. If you insist on being her friend, suggest you keep her away from
your child.

Ditto. Hope this is not real.

Bunnyfuller · 27/09/2022 22:43

I voted YABU, purely on the grounds that your ‘friend’ is a wanker. They’re not even her kids, she’s the fucking nanny. Where does she get off bragging to you about them and putting your son down. She’s no friend.

Fullsomefrenchie · 27/09/2022 22:45

you should compensate for what you can't give to DC in money's worth by long-term strategic planning and micromanaging. You should get up at 5am to watch tutorials on how to develop eloquence and confidence in kids, take out a loan and send DC to skiing/riding lessons, hound school staff to open bookings for after-school clubs a year in advance, hire a chef/dietician/personal trainer/stretching contraptions to make DC grow taller, force your DC choose their jobs/exams/subjects 5 years in advance?

this is bullshit and you lost me here. You can guide your kids with out this. Why didn’t you Just right “please agree with me”

she’s a bitch for pointing it out. But the above paragraph is idiotic

starsinyourpies · 27/09/2022 22:50

DF is a bitch.

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2022 22:51

But I can’t say anything to DF as she is quite vulnerable (she broke up from an abusive marriage, have terrible relations with her family) so I just keep quiet not to upset her

But you’ll let her put your children down in front of them?

Quincythequince · 27/09/2022 22:53

NoSquirrels · 27/09/2022 22:51

But I can’t say anything to DF as she is quite vulnerable (she broke up from an abusive marriage, have terrible relations with her family) so I just keep quiet not to upset her

But you’ll let her put your children down in front of them?

I know. It’s shocking isn’t it.

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 27/09/2022 23:03

I'd like to see how far your friend got with her employer if she compared her child to someone else's child unfavourably. She would be out of a job before she finished her sentence.

DoIDareSayAnything · 27/09/2022 23:08

What is it, that you actually want people to say?

Clockonthestairs · 27/09/2022 23:11

and in the middle of the conversation, when my DS was talking about something animatedly, DF interrupted him, mid-sentence,

Her comparisons usually cover posture, speech, table manners

I would suggests she focuses on her own table manners if she thinks interrupting someone to ask an irrelevant question or make a negative comparison is ok.

MintJulia · 27/09/2022 23:24

You are being unreasonable but not in the way you think.

Do you really regard this person as your friend? She sounds snobby and supercilious, and you are allowing her to undermine your child and his confidence. I suggest you find kinder friends.

Also note, she hasn't achieved anything at all. She is comparing you to her employer, not herself. Why do you listen to such spite? Of course you should intervene and tell her you aren't interested.

I am a single mum of one. The 'stretched middle' would be putting it mildly, like you. But my ds has an academic scholarship to an independent school. I spend time and patience with him, sharing activities, not because the book says we should but because we are a loving family who enjoy each others company. We do the healthy diet and the extra activities because we enjoy and prefer them, not because they are 'advised.' There is so much you can do without much money.

Oinkypig · 27/09/2022 23:27

It’s just very odd, they aren’t her children, also why does your friend work for 2 families who are super wealthy enough to have private jets? I wouldn’t think they’d like to be part of a nanny share.

kimchifix · 27/09/2022 23:33

Your DF is horrible. It may be some misguided attempt to boost her own self esteem in some way but it really, really sucks. I think you need to make it stop and keep her away from your DC. It's making you feel like a bad parent fgs, the world she's working in isn't normal life for the majority. It's not even normal life for her. She's an employee.

Icantsleep3am · 03/10/2022 11:28

Thank you all for your comments. I had to go away to reflect on your comments and digest them in a constructive way.

I could be wrong and delusional, but I think my DC are robust and have very healthy self-esteem, they don't really register my friends' comments. For my DC the other kids are as fictional as Snow White and seven dwarfs.

On the other hand, there were quite harsh words here about my DF. In her defense, I am going to say that I suspect she could be on the spectrum, although high-functioning and on the mild side, as she has difficulty relating to other people's feelings or social norms as we know them. The were many instances when people we know were quite taken aback by her behaviour or comments. This doesn't stop her from being kind-hearted, and won't stop me from caring about her. My DC are also intuitively aware that she is different.

There was a reason why my question was not whether she was unreasonable, but more an invitation to discuss whether money can make any difference on how you raise your kids.

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ChaToilLeam · 03/10/2022 11:31

Money does indeed make a huge difference, but it’s not everything. Give your children something money can’t buy: protection from this so called DF of yours and her continual unwarranted comparisons with the children she looks after.

Honestly, why does this even have to be pointed out to you?

LuaDipa · 03/10/2022 11:37

Icantsleep3am · 03/10/2022 11:28

Thank you all for your comments. I had to go away to reflect on your comments and digest them in a constructive way.

I could be wrong and delusional, but I think my DC are robust and have very healthy self-esteem, they don't really register my friends' comments. For my DC the other kids are as fictional as Snow White and seven dwarfs.

On the other hand, there were quite harsh words here about my DF. In her defense, I am going to say that I suspect she could be on the spectrum, although high-functioning and on the mild side, as she has difficulty relating to other people's feelings or social norms as we know them. The were many instances when people we know were quite taken aback by her behaviour or comments. This doesn't stop her from being kind-hearted, and won't stop me from caring about her. My DC are also intuitively aware that she is different.

There was a reason why my question was not whether she was unreasonable, but more an invitation to discuss whether money can make any difference on how you raise your kids.

I don’t care how robust my kids are or what your friend has been through, I would not be allowing a her into my home to make unfavourable critiques and comparisons about them. They may not say anything, but you are opening them up to a world of mental health and self-esteem issues. This isn’t normal or acceptable behaviour but every time you expose your kids to this you are making it seem like it is. Your kids deserve to be around people who can see how great they are, but you are choosing to inflict on them someone who can only pick fault with them. You are as much to blame as your horrible friend for allowing this to continue.

You’re a parent, act like one and put your kids first. Keep this woman away from them.

TurtleCavalryIsSeriousShit · 03/10/2022 11:40

Yes. Money makes a HUGE difference. We have just come out of the most horrific 5 years where we had next to nothing. It was awful, on top of all the health issues we suffered.

We have finally received the compensation for the cause of our problems and WHAT A RELIEF! We can finally breathe. We can afford to give time to our children. Before, we were so stressed and anxious that any time we spent with them was 'tainted' iyswim?

Don't get me wrong, we tried not to let it affect the children, but that is nigh on impossible. We are only human.

Aggypanthus · 03/10/2022 11:41

There is nothing kind about this person. Nothing

Skatewing · 03/10/2022 11:43

Your "friend" is in awe of her employers. Give it time and I bet Angus won't be such a delight anymore.
That said, I would play with her and start comparing her to a Norland Nanny. 😂😂

NoseyNellie · 03/10/2022 11:46

Money can buy some advantages but not the most important thing which is raising confident, competent, resilient, loved and loving children. It’s not an either/or - rich children are not guaranteed to have fabulous lives and poor children are not doomed to have terrible lives.

(but also I’m laughing at her snobbery - she’s literally the f*ucking nanny!)

DownNative · 03/10/2022 11:46

You say your friend is vulnerable and you say nothing in case you upset her.

Yet she's not extending the same courtesy to your child who is also vulnerable in regards to your friend's put downs! That could negatively impact on your own child.

So, I'd say you shouldn't worry about your friend's feelings and lay down the law on this. Crossing a line to do this to a child, imo.

TheGoodFighter · 03/10/2022 11:47

It's fairly obvious that having a ton of money makes a difference when raising children.
Your voting options are idiotic though.

Amazongirl9 · 03/10/2022 11:47

Of course money can make a huge difference. To the time parents have available, options for activities, experiences, education etc. but it’s not all linear. It isn’t just more money equals better. Money increases options that’s all. She is ridiculous and rude to compare the situation and achievements of her employers son your yours.

Totalityloss · 03/10/2022 11:49

The message I got from this is that your DF is extremely rude.

I would also say she’s in the wrong job. Anyone working with children should know not to put them down in the way she did.