AIBU to believe rich people should contribute much more?

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A bit tongue in cheek, but given that its almost impossible for poorly paid workers including care workers and nurses to strike, and that the government have given people earning over £100K a massive pay rise, what other ways could the most wealthy be made to pay?

My idea: - a new LUXURIES tax (think 50% VAT) on things ordinary people cant buy, like superyachts, airplanes, £10K+ dining tables, a box at wimbledon, £500+ handbags, £100+ football boots!

AIBU - No - they should pay more and heres my ideas how they should do it!
AIBU - Yes - leave wealthy people alone, its not their fault

Haven't rtft but if you think those on 100k can afford a yacht or a 10k dining table you are terrible mistaken!

At the moment people are refusing to do lower paid jobs.

There is a recruitment and retention crisis in all sorts of areas of employment

So the idea that 'talent' has to be renumeration is true across all sectors

Do you do something that brings in enough that your employers can afford to pay you 50k a year?

Not really no.

Depends on what they’re doing doesn’t it!

What a crazy blanket statement with no real-life applicability. Have a long hard think about why that might not work.

Beautiful thing in this country is that private enterprise can pay what it likes. They pay for a skillset which they consider valuable (based on whichever way they measure value).

Stay mad.

I’m going to have a stab at seeing if we can’t reach some sort of consensus. I’m willing to guess no matter who you are, wether that be left leaning or politically conservative nobody wants to see children go hungry, the elderly freeze in their homes, or social mobility slowed to a crawl if not stalled entirely.

This adversarial political footing we seem to have found ourselves on especially in the wake of Brexit serves no-one. The centre ground in politics has all but disappeared. We have to rediscover it, and we must learn to compromise.

Most of them just have rich mummy's and daddy's actually. Statistically

The issue is that Labour want to get the 'rich' to foot the bill, whilst increasing benefits even for healthy, able bodied people that could easily work.

It is the unfairness in the system already that is causing the issue. If healthy people were working, instead of sitting on the dole in their millions, wealthy people would be far more generous. We are in this together feeling would soon arrive. But if one half of the nation are working their socks off and feeling taken advantage of, and the other are pleading poverty whilst lying in their beds and doing nothing that is where the understanding and consensus evaporates.

Everyone needs to pull their weight, when that happens you will see the middle ground becomes a really happy place for most people, most people are happy to pay more if they see that others are doing their best to work and improve their own lives, rather than begging/demanding for more for nothing.

There are so many job vacancies no one should be unemployed unless they are really unable to due to illness or serious injury. Our country would be a much better place for more fairness not less.

@Madamecastafiore

Kind of proving my point there eh?

A while a go it was all, oh anyone can earn very well! Anyone that wants to be wealthy can be!!

They just need to work hard enough! No other barrier.

OK.

So now everyone is working harder. They've all done it. They're all wealthy.

Yay!

Mmmmm

But wait a minute

If everyone gets paid what I do, then there's not so much for me!

Mathematics 101 and why we have and always will have wealthy inequality

Might stretch to the football boots though

@Kissingfrogs25

Most people in poverty have at least 1 adult working.

Rather than bleating on about benefits we should be doing something about the working poor?

Raising mw. Linking wages.

Tackling housing costs and fuel poverty

This exactly 👏👏👏

I distribute large quantities or medication such as chemotherapy around the world to ensure a safe and continuous supply to the legal pharmaceutical supply chain.

I'm personally responsible for maintaining the efficacy and security of the medicines through various climates and borders. I answer to regulators such as the MHRA, the HMRC and the Home Office.

I can literally be put in jail if I fuck up on any given day. I am paid what I'm paid because I have a rare skill set and have spent years developing my education. I can pretty much write my own cheque when negotiating. I saw a niche in the market and fought for it.

As for "subsiding other people", we're not here arguing for higher tax rates for more frequent black bin days are we?

I suppose we all have the same 24 hours? 🙄

@procrastinatingloser

"Most of them just have rich mummy's and daddy's actually. Statistically*"
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Actually I know plenty of entrepreneurs and the majority are self made.

Have labour said they are going to increase taxes and give benefits to a wider range of healthy people?

I heard they would reinstate the extra 5% that the conservatives have just removed, but the last labour government didnt really change taxation much compared to the conservatives before and after.

@Eeiliethya

Oooh big pharma huh. Sounds fascinating.

No, I'd be arguing for increased taxes to pay for decent public services. Education, health. Civil services. Police, fire service. Social care.

Ya know. The essentials

Hat in gods name are you talking about?

So how on earth would they fund all of their policies and nationalisation plans? With thin air?

@Kissingfrogs25

The same way the tories are funding your tax cuts

🤣

@Madamecastafiore

The idea that its easy for everyone to be wealthy.

That the only barrier is hard work.

And not, the fact that those who are already wealthy don't want to share.

If they did, we wouldn't have wealth inequality.

Mw wouldn't be a thing, for a start.

Because everyone would be paid a fair wage instead of a select few

I don’t think the conservatives are interested in nationalising anything 🤣 duh

@Kissingfrogs25

No. No one said they were?

@Topgub
Yep it is, but I don't do it for the shits and giggles I do it for money.

Public services - I'm already a net contributor, I pay a large amount in tax, why should I pay more?

Even those that don’t work?
Even those that don’t show up or care?
Even those that are piss poor at their jobs?
All should be paid the same.

It is sounding more and more like you ARE trying to turn the U.K. into North Korea.

We are not a communist country - move to China, Russia or NK if that is what you are looking for.