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To miss David Cameron?

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Yellowredandbrown · 27/09/2022 08:06

Probably won’t be popular but I do.

He was a Tory but a moderate one.

I know some people hold him personally responsible for brexit but I have never subscribed to that view. It was a pressing question that needed answering. I do think he should have done more to show the benefits of being in the EU.

I wish we could have kept him.

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Londongent · 27/09/2022 10:11

David Cameron was a career politician who took this country out of the EU, and then abandoned his duties immediately.
It's difficult to have a worse PM than him, though Boris tried very hard, and Truss is trying harder. But no, he is not missed.

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Crikeyalmighty · 27/09/2022 10:14

I can't agree that the referendum was a question that needed answering.

It was never a subject I heard people of all classes mentioning. It was done because he pandered to the ERG and was aware that Farage was picking up votes . He should have stood firm and said it wasn't in the countries economic interests because of x, y and z. He could easily have put money into having various controls too with regards to EU immigration that other EU countries actually use ( they certainly did when we were in Denmark) AND they extradited known criminals/offenders etc. on losing, he should have remained and held his nerve and at minimum negotiated and EEA type deal.

As a person I agree he was preferable to these headbangers but he allowed the headbangers to gain control of the party and lead to this mess

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Figgygal · 27/09/2022 10:17

I always supported DC (not that I ever voted for him) even my tory hating husband was moderate about him but I cant ever get over Brexshit. His legacy is ruined.
Stick Teresa May back in if anyone

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MrsSkylerWhite · 27/09/2022 10:17

NightmareSlashDelightful · Today 08:15
It was a pressing question that needed answering.”

I disagree. It was a fringe issue that most people didn’t care about that much until certain politicians and parts of the press started banging the drum with misleading (and often plainly untrue) stories. He presided over the giving away of the rights of millions over an ideological handbag scrap within the edges of his own party and as a punishment for pushing through the gay marriage legislation.

Cameron fucked over this country comprehensively and is, along with Johnson, typical of the ‘educated fool, born to rule’ Etonian type”

absolutely this ^

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CapMarvel · 27/09/2022 10:19

Cameron was a self-serving political lightweight and a complete coward.

He was completely unable to negotiate with the EU and so called a completely unnecessary referendum because he was scared of UKIP stealing a few seats away. He then completely failed to make what should have been a very, very easy case to stay in the EU and then ran away when he lost.

One of the very worst PM's this country has ever had.

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beachcitygirl · 27/09/2022 10:24

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 27/09/2022 08:15

If he had listened to Nicola Sturgeon who told him that the referendum should include the proviso that every country in the union should agree to leave before we did leave, then we wouldn't be in this mess. He didn't like her and wouldn't listen to her.

Absolutely this.

Also, after the 2014 referendum during which he made several visits to scotland talking about a family of 4 nations etc... the union being about pooling and sharing & better together.

His first words on the podium after the No vote were to introduce EVEL English votes for English laws. A total hypocritical disgrace.

I have no problem with England having English votes for English laws, in an English only parliament.

Westminster is the UK union Parliament and England is just 1/4 of that and already gets its own bloody way 99% of the time due to numbers.

David cameron - architect of austerity
David cameron - architect of brexit
David cameron - fuck right off

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user6497219 · 27/09/2022 10:28

I also miss Teresa May not David Cameron

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takliyah · 27/09/2022 10:31

kirinm · 27/09/2022 09:58

DC and Osborne oversaw austerity which destroyed the lives of many, began the destruction of the NHS, closures of sure starts, police stations to name just a few.

On top of that he allowed Brexit to happen

Theresa May was the creator of the hostile involvement and the associated racist policies.

They're all disgusting human beings. Admittedly Truss is completely incompetent but who put her there? Fucking tories.

Sure Starts closed because it was middle class mummies who were using them, they didn’t attract the ‘right’ demographic.

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UnicornMumcraft · 27/09/2022 10:34

Seeing all the former PMs at the Various events around the Queens death I think I’d take any of the pre-Johnson ones over what we have now, wouldn’t be happy with most of like them but in comparison….

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 27/09/2022 10:44

He was absolutely useless and this whole shitshow began with him.

The Tories are not fit to govern.

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ThreeLocusts · 27/09/2022 10:47

Cameron was a stonking idiot who thought he had political nous because he could win elections with 80 per cent of the print media in his corner.

Remember he came begging to the owner of the Daily Mail to rein in their anti - EU propaganda during the referendum campaign? In vain, of course. The moment his connections failed him, he was toast.

He was like a man who tries to deal with a kitchen fire by turning on the ceiling fan. Took a spat within his own party and turned into a polarising national debate.

And then there is his austerity policy, which he tried to blame on the Euro crisis. So he told people that a, the EU was making them poorer but b, they should vote to remain in it anyway. Then he was miffed because that didn't work.

Just a shit politician. Utter over-entitled idiot who wouldn't have stretched to managing a pub if he hadn't been born into privilege.

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Endlesssummer2022 · 27/09/2022 10:49

‘Theresa May was the creator of the hostile involvement and the associated racist policies.’

Exactly. Her Advisor at the time, Nick Timothy who wrote her ‘citizens of nowhere’ speech is a thoroughly nasty piece of work. Can’t see why anyone would think she was one of the nice ones.

foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/27/uk-brexit-theresa-may-nick-timothy-xenophobia-putting-lipstick-on-a-bigotry/

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ChaToilLeam · 27/09/2022 10:50

He dropped us all in the shit and ran away. A weak, venal coward of a man. He only looks good compared to the absolute shitshow that has followed.

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 27/09/2022 10:55

Yes, I roll my eyes at the recent trend for 'ahh good and decent Theresa May wasn't all that bad compared to Johnson/Truss'. Yes, she bloody was.

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VioletInsolence · 27/09/2022 10:57

Yellowredandbrown · 27/09/2022 08:09

Honestly to both, no, and yes. I think there was always going to be a vote regarding the EU. I just don’t think people wanted to be in it.

I do think something was needed regarding a shake up of the benefits system. No desire to be cruel or harsh but pre 2010 I do remember the benefits system as it was and it just wasn’t sustainable.

I think compared to Truss - bring him back!

What on Earth are you talking about?! If the voting had been left to the politicians Brexit wouldn’t have happened. I mean, I’m not saying that they all know what they’re doing (and have advisors), but they know slightly more than the general public who had no idea what they were really voting for.

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tiger2691 · 27/09/2022 10:57

Bloke was a chancer, confidence trickster and a horrid man, who alongside IDS and Osbourne destroyed many of the social and social support systems, built (up) after the end of WW2. Then, as now, the Tory party are a bunch of psychopathic thugs, bullies and vandals, who exist only to serve their 30-35% core vote.

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DismantledKing · 27/09/2022 10:57

Christ, no. The Tories have been awful in governments. Fuck them all.

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VioletInsolence · 27/09/2022 10:58

That (and had advisors) but is in the wrong place…you know what I mean (one hopes).

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NancyBellaDonna · 27/09/2022 10:59

He dropped us all in the shit and ran away. A weak, venal coward of a man. He only looks good compared to the absolute shitshow that has followed.
This ^
No I don't miss him!

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MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 27/09/2022 11:02

I’ll always remember Cameron whistling cheerily to himself as he walked away from the podium outside No.10 after resigning. Not a care in the world as he headed back to his life of luxury.

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VaulterTech · 27/09/2022 11:07

The man single handedly destroyed this country. I didn’t think I could hate someone I’d never met, but there we are.

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YennefersDress · 27/09/2022 11:08

Figgygal · 27/09/2022 10:17

I always supported DC (not that I ever voted for him) even my tory hating husband was moderate about him but I cant ever get over Brexshit. His legacy is ruined.
Stick Teresa May back in if anyone

Even without brexit, what legacy would that have been? Austerity and the destruction of public services, the failure to deal with the consequences of the 2008 recession and the fact that all kinds of inequalities grew worse, beginning with his government?

Vile pig of a man. I bloody hate Tony Blair but I miss him as prime minister.

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satur · 27/09/2022 11:11

He caused Brexit then buggered off as soon as the vote went awry and left us in the hands of even bigger idiots.

YABVVVVVU

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Crikeyalmighty · 27/09/2022 11:13

The idea of referendums too on subjects that vast amounts of the public don't have in depth knowledge of is nuts too. It's likely if there was a referendum on hanging ,enough people would vote for it. Switzerland uses referendums a lot but I believe it has to be 66% plus to affect any change.

When you listen to some of the vox pops at the time I'm working class towns the amount of people saying there were too many Muslims in the country was staggering (what this had to do with the EU his only knows) but somehow they had linked it in their head. Strangely I saw few vox pops in places like London, Bristol, Oxford, Winchester , Norwich etc . It's the same with Facebook and Twitter, the sheer vitriol of some people towards the EU was ridiculous, as if it was responsible for the fact they had shitty prospects or lived in places they hated. It unleashed the pent up plain nastiness and racism in many people that has continued- the idea that all their issues come down to being able to blame others,

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seaweedhead · 27/09/2022 11:13

Ifailed · 27/09/2022 08:19

If you miss Cameron, it just shows how bad the current shower of shit are.

This. At the time I thought he was the worst pm we've ever had but they just keep getting worse and worse.

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