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Child (momentarily) left on school bus

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Busybus · 23/09/2022 12:22

My 5 year old gets a school bus. It's a private company with a driver and bus assistant. DC started getting the bus at the start of the year. Its so convenient and generally we have had nothing to say about it but good things.

Two weeks ago on the first day back, I went to collect DS from the bus. When they pulled up, the usual children got off and as I waited for my child, the doors closed and the bus drove off. I had to run after the bus shouting at them to stop. The stopped at the bottom of the street and let my child off. No big deal -not great but these things happen. I laughed it off and that was that.

Yesterday, my daughter was upset not long after we got home. She said that in the morning, when they had all got to school, everyone got off the bus except her. She couldn't unbuckle her seatbelt and the bus started to move off, so she shouted 'no, no, no!' so the bus driver would hear her. Luckily he did. Going by what my child said, the bus had started pulling off but hadn't got very far. He unbuckled her seatbelt and helped her off the bus.

When she told me I was a bit annoyed for her but glad she had got off the bus ok. The more and more I thought about it, the more upset I felt. I woke up several times last night thinking about her shouting 'no, no, no!' and how she must have felt.

I spoke to the assistant this morning as I wanted to hear her side of story. My DC tends to be pretty good at remembering things accurately but at the end of the day, she is 5 so it's important to get all the facts. The assistant didn't deny it. In fact, her response was 'yeah but the bus hadn't got very far...I'll keep her beside me today'.

Something about it didn't sit right with me. I told one of the other mums and I ended up getting a bit upset. The other mum reminded me that situations like these can end up tragically and it dawned on me that while my child was OK in the end, who knows what else might have happened, and this doesn't take away from how scared she was.

I then told DC's teacher who took it very seriously and passed it on. I wasn't emotional, just wrote the facts as I had them and explained my concerns. The bus company has been informed and said it won't happen again. I didn't want to make a big deal about it but my instincts are saying that I need to protect my child (and other kids too). However my instinct when it comes to my kids can't always be trusted, as I can be a bit on the over protective side.

I'm picking my child up from the bus soon and I'm dreading seeing the assistant who most likely has been reprimanded for something she didn't seem to think was a big deal. I'm not sure how to handle it. Human error happens, everyone has made mistakes or overlooked things so I don't want heads to roll. I just feel sorry for my little girl and so many different scenarios have gone through my mind.

Yanbu: the bus assistant should have done a head count and final sweep of the bus and not to do so was dangerous. You were right to escalate it.

Yabu: everyone makes mistakes and it was just one of those things, DC was fine and you should have left it at that.

OP posts:
BusyMum47 · 24/09/2022 09:53

@Busybus You are absolutely not bring unreasonable. Your poor daughter! I was so cross on your behalf as I was reading your post!

The bus company & particularly the driver/assistant whose bloody job it is to ensure the safety of the children on the bus & make sure they're all accounted for at each destination have been utterly crap on these 2 occasions!!

I'm a Primary School Teaching Partner in the UK & we ALWAYS do a sweep of an empty bus & multiple headcounts etc for even the shortest of journeys.

I would expect them to be even more conscious with the Reception aged children who are so young & new to the whole affair.

You did the right thing by officially complaining. Good for you. Who cares what they think. The safety of your child is what matters.

💗

PicaK · 24/09/2022 09:55

I hope they don't reprimand this lady. I hope they go hey what's up you really messed up there, why/how did it happen and retrain her.
And then sack her if it happens again. So upsetting for you.

HappyHamsters · 24/09/2022 10:09

Once could be a mistake, twice is unforgiveable. How do you retain someone to use a clipboard , tick off a few names and walk through a bus to make sure everyone is on or off.

Busybus · 24/09/2022 10:11

Thanks everyone. I've put it behind us. I just wanted to make sure it didn't happen again, to my child or anyone else's.

To those saying that I'm being precious, I was speaking to my daughters class teacher and she told me that even if I hadn't made a complaint, she would have had to have raised it as a safeguarding issue as part of her duty of care. Once I had told her what had happened, she then had the professional obligation to pass it on. Everyone at the school has taken it seriously, which assures me that my instincts were correct and it was indeed a breach of safety.

Thanks to everyone who responded!

OP posts:
TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:13

Busybus · 24/09/2022 10:11

Thanks everyone. I've put it behind us. I just wanted to make sure it didn't happen again, to my child or anyone else's.

To those saying that I'm being precious, I was speaking to my daughters class teacher and she told me that even if I hadn't made a complaint, she would have had to have raised it as a safeguarding issue as part of her duty of care. Once I had told her what had happened, she then had the professional obligation to pass it on. Everyone at the school has taken it seriously, which assures me that my instincts were correct and it was indeed a breach of safety.

Thanks to everyone who responded!

Teacher sounds like a jobsworth little englander

At least you got the poor driver on minimum wage sacked though 👍🏼

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:21

@TakeawayManAlan nobody's been sacked and it wasn't the driver who did anything wrong. It was the assistant whose job is literally to make sure all the children get on and off the bus.

Johnnysgirl · 24/09/2022 10:22

The coach company then put in a rule that the drivers walked up through the coach at each stop and made sure that the children who got off at each stop were actually off and at the last stop, a check to make sure the coach was empty before driving off.
It's mind boggling that this wouldn't have been in place as standard procedure, rather than implemented after they'd got it so spectacularly wrong...

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:25

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:21

@TakeawayManAlan nobody's been sacked and it wasn't the driver who did anything wrong. It was the assistant whose job is literally to make sure all the children get on and off the bus.

Probably a young woman on minimum wage - give her a break

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:26

@TakeawayManAlan so she doesn't have to look after 5 year olds properly because she's on minimum wage?

mamabear715 · 24/09/2022 10:27

@Busybus
A similar thing happened to my DS a few years ago - I've mentioned it before on here.
They'd gone on a school trip - DS fell asleep & woke up in the coach's garage. Someone from there ran him home in a van. We lived out in the sticks, I was absolutely beside myself with worry as it got later. He was about 5 or 6 at the time too, & is ASD.
I complained, but other parents seemed to find it hilarious. I did NOT. I still don't.

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:28

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:26

@TakeawayManAlan so she doesn't have to look after 5 year olds properly because she's on minimum wage?

She lapsed in concentration/effort for s moment

When you’re on a pitiful wage doing a shite mundane job, it happens

She’s human. And nobody got hurt (or even inconvenienced!)

WhatNoRaisins · 24/09/2022 10:36

God forbid someone should be expected to do their fucking job.

bombombo · 24/09/2022 10:38

Can't believe some posters think you're being precious, she's 5! Of course they should be checking that the right kids get off at the right stops. Some 5 year olds might not have had the confidence to shout for the driver to help with their belt too.

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:40

@TakeawayManAlan she didn't do her job twice in two weeks. The only reason nothing horrendous happened is because OP and her DD were on the ball.

If she's not capable of doing her job she doesn't deserve it, especially when it concerns very young children.

Theres absolutely no excuse.

mamabear715 · 24/09/2022 10:42

@girlmom21 Absolutely agreed.

Bearsporridge · 24/09/2022 10:42

Well done OP. You did exactly the right thing and the fact that you’re worrying about it makes me think that asserting yourself like this was probably as out of character for you as your dd shouting out “no”.

It’s important to let your dd know that she did great. We can’t protect our dc from everything- we have to help them learn how to cope when things go wrong. She did exactly the right thing. And so did you.

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:43

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:40

@TakeawayManAlan she didn't do her job twice in two weeks. The only reason nothing horrendous happened is because OP and her DD were on the ball.

If she's not capable of doing her job she doesn't deserve it, especially when it concerns very young children.

Theres absolutely no excuse.

What “horrendous” thing would have happened if (in the highly unlikely, worst case scenario) the driver had driven off and got to the depo and realised they still had a passenger?

They’d have drove the passenger back to the school and dropped them off?! OMG you’re right that is horrendous

I have never even heard of this overprivileged arrangement where a school bus picks kids up at their house and takes them to school. Sounds very privileged. Possibly private school. If it’s still not good enough then take them yourself or have them walk on their own (like I did at 5, yes really!)

Busybus · 24/09/2022 10:46

mamabear715 · 24/09/2022 10:27

@Busybus
A similar thing happened to my DS a few years ago - I've mentioned it before on here.
They'd gone on a school trip - DS fell asleep & woke up in the coach's garage. Someone from there ran him home in a van. We lived out in the sticks, I was absolutely beside myself with worry as it got later. He was about 5 or 6 at the time too, & is ASD.
I complained, but other parents seemed to find it hilarious. I did NOT. I still don't.

Oh my gosh. That is terrible!!!

OP posts:
girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:47

What “horrendous” thing would have happened if (in the highly unlikely, worst case scenario) the driver had driven off and got to the depo and realised they still had a passenger?

The OP has said she's in a much warmer country than the UK. Presumably a country where school buses are the norm.

If the driver had got back to the depot and got off the bus, and not realised he had a passenger still on board, she could have been trapped on there all day. Temperatures inside vehicles rise rapidly in hot temperatures. She could easily have died or at least suffered from heat stroke or dehydration. She'd have been absolutely terrified and traumatised. Is that horrendous enough for you?

Also, in the UK, children get transport to school if they live a good distance from the school and often if they have additional needs. It's not something that comes from a place of privilege.

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:48

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:47

What “horrendous” thing would have happened if (in the highly unlikely, worst case scenario) the driver had driven off and got to the depo and realised they still had a passenger?

The OP has said she's in a much warmer country than the UK. Presumably a country where school buses are the norm.

If the driver had got back to the depot and got off the bus, and not realised he had a passenger still on board, she could have been trapped on there all day. Temperatures inside vehicles rise rapidly in hot temperatures. She could easily have died or at least suffered from heat stroke or dehydration. She'd have been absolutely terrified and traumatised. Is that horrendous enough for you?

Also, in the UK, children get transport to school if they live a good distance from the school and often if they have additional needs. It's not something that comes from a place of privilege.

Yeah all sounds very likely 🙄

Or maybe the depot was hit by an asteroid etc

x2boys · 24/09/2022 10:48

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:25

Probably a young woman on minimum wage - give her a break

Oh that's OK then 🙄

girlmom21 · 24/09/2022 10:49

@TakeawayManAlan it's about as likely as a transport assistant neglecting to do her job twice in the space of two weeks.

Are you her dad?

x2boys · 24/09/2022 10:50

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:48

Yeah all sounds very likely 🙄

Or maybe the depot was hit by an asteroid etc

You seem overly invested in this, are you a PA on a school transport ?

ladydimitrescu · 24/09/2022 10:50

@TakeawayManAlan do you really have nothing better to do? You are a goady twat on every thread you are on.
No one got fired, you're making shit up.
It's not an unusual set up - I had a bus pick me up for primary school in the uk in the 90s! Very common in small villages that are in the middle of nowhere. Your tiny mind must be blown.

No one cares or is impressed you walked to school on your own aged 5. These days parents care about their children's welfare.

Go away.

TakeawayManAlan · 24/09/2022 10:51

x2boys · 24/09/2022 10:50

You seem overly invested in this, are you a PA on a school transport ?

No but I’ve done many jobs in my time. Bus driver being one

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