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Is it time to watch the mud stick with TFG? Watch this space!

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Roussette · 21/09/2022 21:03

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AcrossthePond55 · 19/12/2022 19:48

Yeah well, Fuck Pence! This is why HE should never be POTUS. His inability to separate Church and State.

Trump (and others) are being referred to the DoJ for:

1-Obstructing an official proceeding

2-Conspiracy to defraud the USA

3-Conspiracy to make a false statement to the us govt (fake electors)

4-Incite, assist, or aid and comfort an insurrection. Conviction includes a bar to holding ANY federal office.

and there may be more if the DoJ so decides

AcrossthePond55 · 19/12/2022 19:50

We have a nice bottle of Veuve Clicquot set aside for NYE. We are fighting the temptation to crack it right now, but we're afraid it may be tempting fate.

greenacrylicpaint · 19/12/2022 20:51

lets hope it finally sticks

DuncinToffee · 19/12/2022 20:55

here's the full nearly 12 minute video the January 6 committee put together summarizing key evidence and testimony from its investigation

twitter.com/atrupar/status/1604915531995381776?t=_Iejkfp0i-TL12LSWOP_CQ&s=19

AcrossthePond55 · 19/12/2022 21:33

Thanks for the video link, @DuncinToffee Sending it to my DS2 who's at work so he can watch on break.

DuncinToffee · 23/12/2022 12:39

The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection recommends barring former President Donald Trump from holding office again.

edition.cnn.com/2022/12/22/politics/jan-6-committee-final-report

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2022 14:03

DuncinToffee · 23/12/2022 12:39

The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, insurrection recommends barring former President Donald Trump from holding office again.

edition.cnn.com/2022/12/22/politics/jan-6-committee-final-report

I read that article. My takeaway is that the only way to do that is to prosecute and find him guilty on the charge of "Incite, assist, or aid and comfort an insurrection" that has been referred to the DoJ. So it's all up to Merrick Garland now. Campaign season will start in earnest next year (probably late Spring/early Summer) so I think he'll need to get on the stick and make a decision. I also think Doofus will probably start serious campaigning much earlier than normal so he can scream that it's all an 'intentional plot' to sabotage his chances.

Honestly, this is the only charge that I'm 'invested' in (for lack of a better word). TBH I wouldn't give a rat's arse if he never spent a day in prison as long as he was convicted of that charge and barred from office.

tobee · 23/12/2022 23:43

Ah for the good old days:-

Is it time to watch the mud stick with TFG?  Watch this space!
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/12/2022 16:15

There was a bloke in England who was found to have misused high office to promote the South Sea Bubble. He is in Wikipedia, for his sins:

(Sunderland became de facto Prime Minister in 1718.) "Sunderland appointed Aislabie as Chancellor of the Exchequer. When in 1719 the South Sea Company proposed a deal whereby it would take over the national debt in exchange for government bonds, Aislabie was a very strong supporter of the scheme and negotiated the contract; he piloted the Bill through the House of Commons. The South Sea Company had been built on high expectations which it could never fulfil, and it collapsed in August 1720. An investigation by Parliament found that Aislabie had been given £20,000 of company stock in exchange for his promotion of the scheme. He resigned the Exchequer in January 1721, and in March was found guilty by the Commons of the "most notorious, dangerous and infamous corruption". He was expelled from the House, removed from the Privy Council, and imprisoned in the Tower of London."

He was kept there until an enquiry into his behaviour had been completed, which took about three years, and then let out but barred from ever holding political office again.

I'd like that for Trump, especially the "held in prison until an enquiry was completed" bit....

DuncinToffee · 24/12/2022 18:18

Happy Christmas everyone Xmas Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 24/12/2022 22:11

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 24/12/2022 16:15

There was a bloke in England who was found to have misused high office to promote the South Sea Bubble. He is in Wikipedia, for his sins:

(Sunderland became de facto Prime Minister in 1718.) "Sunderland appointed Aislabie as Chancellor of the Exchequer. When in 1719 the South Sea Company proposed a deal whereby it would take over the national debt in exchange for government bonds, Aislabie was a very strong supporter of the scheme and negotiated the contract; he piloted the Bill through the House of Commons. The South Sea Company had been built on high expectations which it could never fulfil, and it collapsed in August 1720. An investigation by Parliament found that Aislabie had been given £20,000 of company stock in exchange for his promotion of the scheme. He resigned the Exchequer in January 1721, and in March was found guilty by the Commons of the "most notorious, dangerous and infamous corruption". He was expelled from the House, removed from the Privy Council, and imprisoned in the Tower of London."

He was kept there until an enquiry into his behaviour had been completed, which took about three years, and then let out but barred from ever holding political office again.

I'd like that for Trump, especially the "held in prison until an enquiry was completed" bit....

"most notorious, dangerous and infamous corruption"

That flows trippingly off the tongue, doesn't it? I wish that was one of the charges facing Doofus.

We don't have anywhere that rivals the Tower of London for an infamous dungeon-y prison, worse luck. But I think that Leavenworth will do in a pinch.

AcrossthePond55 · 24/12/2022 22:12

Happy Christmas to you @DuncinToffee !!

And a Happy Christmas and Joyous New Year to all. May 2023 bring justice to Doofus and peace to all who deserves it!

Roussette · 24/12/2022 23:16

Happy Christmas to all on this thread! Bits been a pleasure 'knowing' you all 🤶🍹🍷🎁🍸🥰

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PerkingFaintly · 24/12/2022 23:18

Wine A very merry one to you all.

DuncinToffee · 30/12/2022 16:14

So Trump's federal tax returns have been released today and media outlets have started analysing them.

AcrossthePond55 · 30/12/2022 19:02

DuncinToffee · 30/12/2022 16:14

So Trump's federal tax returns have been released today and media outlets have started analysing them.

I bet it's going to take days to sift through it all!

I've had to analyze tax returns in a very limited way and some of them have taken hours and hours to figure out. And these were 'simple' business tax returns from honest people!

I'm going to try and catch Chris Hayes this afternoon to see if he has any analysis. He's usually pretty good at sifting the wheat from the chaff. Lord I wish Rachel was still on every day!

AcrossthePond55 · 03/01/2023 14:03

Well, today is the day the power in the House changes hands. I expect the 1st order of business will be to disband the Jan 6 Cmte. I'm hoping for a final huge document dump before that happens.

I'm sure Doofus is breathing a sigh of relief that at least one of the lights shining on his treasonous and nefarious doings is being extinguished.

Wonder how soon the new House will convene its committees on Hunter Biden? AND I've heard they're considering re-opening Benghazi and Hillary's emails! Good God, could they be even more blatant in their 'tit for tat'-ing?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/01/2023 15:46

Don't they have to vote for a Leader of the House first?

AcrossthePond55 · 03/01/2023 22:44

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/01/2023 15:46

Don't they have to vote for a Leader of the House first?

They do. But it's usually a slam dunk. I had no idea it would turn into the cluster fuck it's turning into, but it's great to see McCarthy squirm.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 03/01/2023 22:56

I had been expecting the clusterfuck for a while because of the five refuseniks from the MAGA crew, to be honest. I'm hoping it goes on until the moderate folk on both sides vote in someone from neither party, or who is a retired Republican moderate.

borntobequiet · 03/01/2023 22:59

Just keeping up.

Wallaw · 04/01/2023 19:41

Honestly, what a shit show, although watching them eat themselves is moderately entertaining.

I'm loving the way Biden's just calmly going about his job while Trump is flailing and wailing on (Un)Truth Social.

borntobequiet · 07/01/2023 11:46

I see McCarthy has finally been voted in.

prettybird · 07/01/2023 11:54

...but what has he promised the "Hold-outs" Hmm

borntobequiet · 07/01/2023 12:37

prettybird · 07/01/2023 11:54

...but what has he promised the "Hold-outs" Hmm

Some details here

edition.cnn.com/2023/01/06/politics/mccarthy-speaker-fight-friday/index.html