I'm getting very nervous about the ramping up of the war and Putin's calling up of 300,000 reservists. It feels like this is a major escalation. I know that any use of nuclear weapons would mean instant retaliation but it no longer feels like a MAD scenario as it almost feels now like he wants a scorched earth and has nothing to lose and doesn't care that it would destroy everything.
AIBU?
Do you think Putin will use nuclear weapons?
colddayinhell · 21/09/2022 20:41
Am I being unreasonable?
531 votes. Final results.
POLLCosmos123 · 21/09/2022 21:45
He will.
He has nothing to lose.
If he goes down he will make sure the rest go down with him.
kirstywursty012 · 21/09/2022 20:53
There's a great TikTok account called "countdaedalus" - he's a very rational (albeit a little bit grumpy!) guy and calmly and logically describes the Ukraine war and any potential outcomes. What many people don't realise is that there are satellites constantly watching Putin's rockets. If the hatch was so much to open, the retaliation would be be global. It's also not just up to it Putin - there is a process in launching nuclear weapons and a number of generals need to be on board for it to happen.
Also he really isn't stupid - he has a lot to lose with nuclear war and so does China (his closest ally). For example China has number of cities protected by a HUGE dam - a simple missile attack there could put millions of Chinese people underwater.
Please try not to to worry and don't read the news! You just need a quick daily glance to be well informed - don't obsess over it. Putin is doing really badly in the Ukraine war and is just trying to save face and look tough.
InPraiseOfBacchus · 21/09/2022 22:13
Those saying that nobody with "wives and kids" would help push the button are very naive. Ambitious people can get to the point where they're prepared to throw a lot under the bus to get closer to power.
Bus5 · 21/09/2022 22:15
There would be nothing to have power of if they did that. Russia would cease to exist as much as we would.
InPraiseOfBacchus · 21/09/2022 22:13
Those saying that nobody with "wives and kids" would help push the button are very naive. Ambitious people can get to the point where they're prepared to throw a lot under the bus to get closer to power.
Eeksteek · 21/09/2022 22:03
I don’t understand why Russia hasn’t crushed Ukraine. I thought Russia was a massive military power, and a dictatorship in all but name that cares little about it’s ordinary people and their resources when it comes to this sort of madness. So why aren’t they winning? Surely they have the resources and the reckless disregard to?
Putin’s Generals will have places in his bunker. They won’t suffer for pressing the button. I know he’s as mad as a box of frogs, but he also is at the stage of dictatorship where he just shoots anyone who disagrees with him or his loony evil genius plots? In which case, there isn’t going to be a lot of opposition at any level, is there? It’s all a bit bleak out there (I may have missed something obvious. I don’t watch much news. There’s too much inane filler and it’s not very informative)
Bus5 · 21/09/2022 22:19
Serious question (as I can see there are some here who know/understand all of this better than I)
If it got to the point where world leaders were satisfied that he was going to do it - wouldn't they then just meet his demands? God knows what they are btw, I had to tune out of this last time it came up as I had began having panic attacks. Bastard.
I know people shouldn't bow down to a bully but a (very selfish and cowardly) part of me thinks for christ sake just give him Ukraine and piss off. It's mindbloggling to me how the rest of the world are at risk over this.
Bus5 · 21/09/2022 22:19
Serious question (as I can see there are some here who know/understand all of this better than I)
If it got to the point where world leaders were satisfied that he was going to do it - wouldn't they then just meet his demands? God knows what they are btw, I had to tune out of this last time it came up as I had began having panic attacks. Bastard.
I know people shouldn't bow down to a bully but a (very selfish and cowardly) part of me thinks for christ sake just give him Ukraine and piss off. It's mindbloggling to me how the rest of the world are at risk over this.
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