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Miss, Mrs, Ms or Mx?

388 replies

Cherchezlaspice · 21/09/2022 01:05

Which are you? I’m a Ms, and have been since I was about 8 years old. I didn’t change my title (or my name) when I got married and this caused some consternation amongst some of the older members of my family.

This made me realise that most women I know (married or unmarried) use Ms. I don’t think I’ve come across anyone under the age of about 50 who uses ‘Miss’ or ‘Mrs’. And I’ve never encountered a ‘Mx’. I do have a fairly specific demographic bubble, though.

So, I’m curious, which are you/do you use?

OP posts:
Quincythequince · 21/09/2022 14:44

SarahSissions · 21/09/2022 14:01

I’m Miss. I am unmarried and don’t feel the need to hide or obscure my marital status behind as Ms title. I find the disappearance of the title Miss on forms offensive as if some penpusher in an office is giving me protection from displaying my marital status. If you want to use Ms, great- I want to use Miss and don’t want it disappearing from forms.
there is no need for companies to really collect titles at all anymore- so if you are going to at least let me pick the one I actually want to use!!!

Ms doesn’t mean your obscuring a thing.

It just means it not important than anybody else knows.

I use Ms and I’m married, because me being married is neither here nor there.

Quincythequince · 21/09/2022 14:44

*You’re

prettybird · 21/09/2022 15:15

I find it fascinating reading this thread how on the one hand there are many who say they have never met anyone who used Ms (or at most, only divorced women) and the other hand, there are many (from all over the UK Wink) who say they've been using it for many, many years, both single and married, as have friends and colleagues.

And never the twain shall meet Confused

Twizbe · 21/09/2022 15:16

SarahSissions · 21/09/2022 14:01

I’m Miss. I am unmarried and don’t feel the need to hide or obscure my marital status behind as Ms title. I find the disappearance of the title Miss on forms offensive as if some penpusher in an office is giving me protection from displaying my marital status. If you want to use Ms, great- I want to use Miss and don’t want it disappearing from forms.
there is no need for companies to really collect titles at all anymore- so if you are going to at least let me pick the one I actually want to use!!!

I kinda agree with you.

We have a choice of at least 2 titles if not more depending on profession.

My choice to use Mrs is just as valid as anyone else's to use Ms or Miss.

KrystalStubbs · 21/09/2022 15:19

BirlinBrain · 21/09/2022 13:56

It's the default setting for all teachers.

Wow, social engineering indeed.

BTW I love your name, it describes my brain perfectly Grin

Saracen · 21/09/2022 15:22

I'm in my 50s and have always used Ms because it seemed sexist that the man's title Mr doesn't specify whether he's married, whereas the corresponding women's titles Miss/Mrs do. I don't think it's anyone's business whether I'm married, especially not strangers.

In the last few years I have started using Mx when possible because I also don't think my gender should be relevant to strangers who are writing to me. I don't know how to pronounce it, however, and never use it in person! In person I invite everyone to call me by my first name, so for me titles are only relevant when someone is writing me a formal letter.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 21/09/2022 15:23

Before I became Dr I used Ms and have done so since I was about 12. Never been married. No way would I be 'Mrs' or take a man's name.

BorisIsATwat · 21/09/2022 15:31

When married I was a Mrs., when divorced I became Ms. now I realise I was born in the wrong body I go by Mx

GreenWhiteViolet · 21/09/2022 15:35

I used Miss until I was 16, then switched to Ms. Had a bit of pushback from traditionalist relatives who said it was only for divorced women (the sort of people who would also address a married woman as Mrs John Smith) but nobody in my professional life has cared or found it unusual.

KissMySassyButt · 21/09/2022 15:39

I’m late 30s, married, didn’t change my surname and go by Miss 🤷🏻‍♀️

frozenorangejuice · 21/09/2022 15:45

I’m married and use Ms, which I used prior to my marriage also. I use it because if men don’t have to announce their marital status then I don’t either.

MistressIggi · 21/09/2022 19:43

2pinkginsplease · 21/09/2022 10:20

The only Ms I know were 2 feminist teachers at school who said it was nobody else’s business whether they were married or not and used Ms so people wouldn’t know… we still all pronounced it Miss, but we knew. Neither were married and when you heard them teach or speak to other people we could understand why they had never been married!

worst classes ever,

Pathetic

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 21/09/2022 20:17

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 21/09/2022 12:03

@Cherchezlaspice

You have been a Ms since you were 8 years old.

Can I just take a moment to PMSL at that???

Grin

I am married, and am therefore a MRS. If I got divorced I would still be a Mrs, because I would have BEEN married...

I also, don't know a single soul who calls themselves 'Ms.' (Muzzzzz.) and would quite honestly laugh at them behind their back. And I have dipped in and out of professional circles and working/middle/upper class circles during my life. No-one I know would use that word. It's so naff.

As for 'MX.' LOL, come on! Grin

Really? Have ya reeeally "dipped in and out of professional circles" but would laugh behind someone's back for hearing them refer to themselves as Ms? You're ever so try hard aren't you.

Zingy123 · 21/09/2022 20:38

I'm a Mrs everyone I know is either a Miss or Mrs. Don't know anyone who uses Ms.

JaninaDuszejko · 21/09/2022 21:05

prettybird · 21/09/2022 15:15

I find it fascinating reading this thread how on the one hand there are many who say they have never met anyone who used Ms (or at most, only divorced women) and the other hand, there are many (from all over the UK Wink) who say they've been using it for many, many years, both single and married, as have friends and colleagues.

And never the twain shall meet Confused

That's probably because those strict Miss/Mrs people (Auntie Ann, I'm thinking of you) never listen if you say you have another title. They are merrily addressing Christmas cards to 'Mr & Mrs John Smith' when the woman has always called herself 'Ms Jane Jones' as long as they have known her.

DontTouchThat · 21/09/2022 21:11

I used Mrs when married, went back to Miss when I divorced. Wouldn’t mind is someone used Ms for me seems pretty interchangeable with Miss.

Only seen Mx on Twitter, they usually have blue hair.

Midsizegal29 · 21/09/2022 21:44

Technically I’m a Mrs (maried DH 3 years ago) but I’m a teacher and have always gone by Miss at school. To try and keep some distance between “me” and “teacher me”, I kept Miss in school but outside I’m Mrs.

VestaTilley · 21/09/2022 21:54

Ms.

I’m married, in my 30s, didn’t change my surname on marriage, been Ms since my early 20s.

HighlandPony · 21/09/2022 21:59

marblemad · 21/09/2022 04:54

I'm a care leaver who went to uni of my own accord and achieved a stem degree and now a business and computing masters with the look to pursue a doctorate. Education is everything to do with effort, yes class can unfortunately access people better universities however, anyone with the right grades can access university, I got into university through an access course provided by a fairly local university! I am not only autistic but have suffered with bpd and severe asthma since young childhood, please don't try to use poverty as a bloody excuse you are embarrassing the left. There are many degree level jobs, since graduating recently myself and all of my university friends (all of whom over 23 and accessed widening participation) have gained jobs in the region on 30-40k and additional training etc., My sister who only has college level 3's and a TBI is an assistant manager of a care facility and on a training wage of 25k. As to your missing the bus bs comments, I had to take 2/3 buses to my school daily and the journey would take well over an hour with my school starting at 8.20 in Lincolnshire, also if missed the bus had to walk up and down a hill to get there and had to walk at least half back as I had no other transport! I am very sorry you feel that a degree is a quote 'fucktonne of debt' however it is literally a higher tax on earnings for those that want to break the wage barrier and anyone who thinks differently does not know where the wage barrier is frankly.

Cool. I’m also a care leaver too except I got a council flat back in the rough area of where I grew up in and did two council swaps till I eventually ended up back in the villages where my family are. I was in kinship care till my great gran died when I went into a group home until I reached 16 and got into a halfway house till the council could give me a flat. We’re not all the same. My priorities were getting back home to my family and having my own. That makes no bearing on the affluent people I’ve worked for or the big corporations I’ve worked for paying me unfairly. I’ve been let go because I was pregnant, I’ve been deducted wages under umbrella agency pay unfairly I’ve had my wages quartered for being a minute late. The affluent keep us in poverty not men vs women. I know plenty men in zero hours contracts a hell of a worse off than we are now

HighlandPony · 21/09/2022 22:06

PurpleMarie · 21/09/2022 03:01

it’s seen as a sort of celebrity thing not something normal folk do. A bit kardashianesque.

Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. A huge portion of the world don't take husbands names when they get married. In Scotland and elsewhere.

Also the 70's was 60 years ago. Go out and meet some new people.

Probably in Glasgow or Edinburgh or Dundee. Not in the arse end of nowhere on the north east. We have two families in our villages who are non white. They’re Hindu run four out of the seven village shops and get married young. Like us. They’re pretty sound.

Surtsey · 21/09/2022 22:09

How do you even pronounce Mx?

OldWivesTale · 21/09/2022 22:15

I'm a Ms -and was when I was unmarried and now that I'm married. It really pisses me off when I write "Ms" down and then eg the bank send me a card with "Mrs" on it because they know I'm married. I'm not fucking Mrs! I've noticed in the US everyone is now Ms so you can guarantee the same will happen over here. Finally something positive from the US!

Bayleaf25 · 21/09/2022 22:23

I’m Ms (I’m married and 50).

FFSandmoreFFS · 21/09/2022 22:24

I’m 42 and have been Mrs since getting married. Prior to that I always went by Miss.

I absolutely loath Ms and felt really offended when I was addressed as such. My Dad would post things to me addressed as Ms despite me saying not to numerous times.

bellabasset · 21/09/2022 22:33

I'm in my 70's so officially I'm Mrs but some of