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Prince George and the Queen's funeral

309 replies

KTKismet · 18/09/2022 05:17

Can't sleep and read this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11222927/Prince-William-Princess-Kate-considering-taking-9-year-old-George-Queens-funeral.html

AIBU to think "palace aides" should wind their necks in and leave Prince George alone, rather than insisting he attends the queen's funeral.

He has a lifetime of service ahead of him, surely they should preserve his childhood as long as possible. I think it's hugely inappropriate, AIBU?

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goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 20:31

How ridiculous. Like PR is needed!

Please tell me this isn't a serious comment.

Andante57 · 19/09/2022 20:32

Time will tell, I am just hoping we don't have to have yet another fabricated culture war about it.

What’s a ‘fabricated culture war’?

stemthetide · 19/09/2022 20:32

My mother and my aunt did not take me to my nans funeral I never forgave them.

I wasn't taken to my mother's funeral when I was seven years old. It would never have occurred to me there was anything to forgive, and particularly as an adult I have always understood that at that time they thought it the best thing to do.

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 20:35

Although it has still been quite a shock

It really hasn't been a shock at all for anyone capable of reading between the lines of 'mobility issues'. She was a huge age, losing weight, fracturing bones, journalists were waiting for the announcement and family would have been well ahead. it was not a shock at all, it was expected.

TheSausageKingofChicago · 19/09/2022 20:40

I would imagine that as with any other bereavement, conversations happened behind the scenes with the children, about what would happen and what would be expected of them on the day.
These children are used to public engagements, in a way most of our children aren’t. I like to think (and I have no idea) that they will have had quiet moments away from the cameras with their mum and dad, and trusted adults eg nanny to help them out when mum and dad were required elsewhere.
The fact Louis wasn’t there suggests they had considered what the children could manage and made a decision based on how they felt each would deal with such a big occasion.

JaneDorney · 19/09/2022 21:03

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 20:35

Although it has still been quite a shock

It really hasn't been a shock at all for anyone capable of reading between the lines of 'mobility issues'. She was a huge age, losing weight, fracturing bones, journalists were waiting for the announcement and family would have been well ahead. it was not a shock at all, it was expected.

Where is the evidence she was fracturing bones?

I am sure that the Queen would have been monitored and treated very carefully to try to prevent such fractures .

Evidently is was a shock and Charles was given very short notice of her quick demise.

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 19/09/2022 21:07

@goodbyestranger - were you not a little shocked that just 48 hrs after meeting with the new PM that she had died?
The Royals were obviously not expecting it to be imminent as Edward and Sophie were on engagements Thursday AM which they had to cut short to get to Balmoral. No other family members apart from Charles, who was at his holiday home, and Anne because she had been on engagements, were in Scotland.
I bet LT didn't think 48hrs into the job she'd be dealing with the death of HMQ.
Yes she was 96 and her health was failing, I too have questioned whether mobility issues have been something more serious, and of course her death was expected. I said to my DH only a few weeks ago if she makes Christmas I think this will be her last as she didn't look well at all. Unfortunately she never made it
With the DofE he was in and out of hospital in the last few months before he died and he obviously wasn't given long when he came out of hospital the last time, what was it 6 weeks or so?

eddiemairswife · 19/09/2022 21:23

I think it would be a good thing if those royal children, when they have finished their education, would be able to get jobs in fields that they were interested in, and lead relatively normal lives.

Jellicoe · 19/09/2022 21:50

I thought both George and Charlotte were brilliant today. Not all kids are that sensitive or can't deal with death. They appear to have loving switched on parents who have explained and listened to them for questions and worries

derxa · 19/09/2022 21:59

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 19:52

Sure, here's just the most recent example. Check out the William pegging/ further affairs stuff and then trace how long it took before the kids were photographed in public doing happy family things.

Aren't you lovely 😡

me109f · 19/09/2022 22:07

The Great-grandchildren seemed to enjoy it. They were of great interest to most people watching all the pomp and everything, and seemed well behaved and happy. I though it was lovely to include them and they did not get to miss anything. They may well have had a choice as little Louis was not there.

I think the choice of music and band funeral marches was dull and very poor. Thank goodness for the bagpipes. Our funeral music can be wonderful and is a great feature of Christian and ceremonial music normally.

Navigatingnewwaters · 19/09/2022 22:15

Made me feel bad that my 9 year old can’t sit still and be quiet for one minute 😱😁

DixonD · 19/09/2022 22:33

Chouetted · 18/09/2022 05:27

I don't think attending a funeral is going to ruin his childhood.

No, but going to a funeral (my very little brother’s) when I was just 7 has left me incredibly emotionally scarred and I cannot visit his grave 30 years on. It’s less than a mile down the road and right next to our land.

I’m 40 and I’ve only been to one funeral since. I was an emotional wreck despite the fact I didn’t have a close relationship, and the woman was nearly 100. No one else was crying, not even her children.

I cannot deal with death now, and I have been very down since the Queen died due to all the talk of grief. It’s so triggering.

So yes, going to a funeral at a young age can be hugely damaging.

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 22:42

derxa not my responsibility that the public relations team responds to social media as it does.

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 22:46

Were you not a little shocked that just 48 hrs after meeting with the new PM that she had died?

I was more surprised that the Queen appointed the new PM at all rather than letting Charles do it. There were all sorts of warnings about Charles making unusual daily visits to Balmoral and the Queen looked wisp thin and so frail, so not at all shocked tbh.

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 22:49

Impressed by her getting out of bed and meeting the outgoing and the new PMs but not shocked at the death. Look at the photo. That is the image of a tired extremely elderly lady at the very end of her life.

londonmummy1966 · 19/09/2022 22:51

CatsandFish · 18/09/2022 07:40

Posters insisting a 9 year old child should go are forgetting that this is NOT a 'ordinary funeral'. This funeral is going to go on for hours. George won't understand it and won't be able to sit still for that long. He is far too young. He should stay home.

Lots of boys a similar age in the choir who were also expected to sit still and behave, and get the music right etc etc etc. If the choristers can sit still and behave so can George.

NeedAHoliday2021 · 19/09/2022 22:59

@JaneDorney at the age of 96 many will break hips and fall. Up until recently I assumed they fell and broke due to impact but I work in a hospital and following a conversation with an orthopaedic consultant I now realise that there’s evidence that suggests that the breaks often occur through crumbling bones and the falls happen as the bones break rather than the other way round. Unless they made her lay in bed with no movement (unlikely she’d have allowed that) they couldn’t have prevented it.

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 23:07

The whole family couldn't be there looking mawkish on the Balmoral estate waiting for the moment of death. Charles and Anne were there and Charles was coming over from his own house very frequently. Why is it an issue than the death was likely rather than a shock? The public had no business to have bulletins issued. What was said was easily enough to know that not long was left. Very much not a story, at 96.

antelopevalley · 19/09/2022 23:09

"The whole family couldn't be there looking mawkish on the Balmoral estate waiting for the moment of death."

What a dreadful way to talk about families that gather together in the days before someone's death.

Novum · 19/09/2022 23:25

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 23:07

The whole family couldn't be there looking mawkish on the Balmoral estate waiting for the moment of death. Charles and Anne were there and Charles was coming over from his own house very frequently. Why is it an issue than the death was likely rather than a shock? The public had no business to have bulletins issued. What was said was easily enough to know that not long was left. Very much not a story, at 96.

Oh dear, I didn't realise I was looking mawkish when I went to see my mother when she was dying. Slap my wrist.

Novum · 19/09/2022 23:27

DixonD · 19/09/2022 22:33

No, but going to a funeral (my very little brother’s) when I was just 7 has left me incredibly emotionally scarred and I cannot visit his grave 30 years on. It’s less than a mile down the road and right next to our land.

I’m 40 and I’ve only been to one funeral since. I was an emotional wreck despite the fact I didn’t have a close relationship, and the woman was nearly 100. No one else was crying, not even her children.

I cannot deal with death now, and I have been very down since the Queen died due to all the talk of grief. It’s so triggering.

So yes, going to a funeral at a young age can be hugely damaging.

Not sure that that is necessarily to do with age. I handle funerals really badly and get emotional even when the person concerned isn't that close - and I didn't go to any funerals before I was an adult.

THEDEACON · 19/09/2022 23:31

I'm delighted that both George and Charlotte attended the funeral It's entirely appropriate for children over 5 to be at family funerals and that is my professional opinion

Novum · 19/09/2022 23:33

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 22:49

Impressed by her getting out of bed and meeting the outgoing and the new PMs but not shocked at the death. Look at the photo. That is the image of a tired extremely elderly lady at the very end of her life.

Not sure that she was just getting out of bed to appoint the PM. She was having meals with Dr Greenshields the previous weekend after hearing him preach, and was due to have lunch with Jackie Stewart. She was described as frail but still the life and soul of things, and enjoying herself.

Autumn61 · 20/09/2022 00:00

Of course he’s going to be in the middle of a media circus his whole life. Blame his parents, they knew what they were doing to any child they had…… fucking heir and a spare and just for good measure let’s add another one to the public purse.