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Prince George and the Queen's funeral

309 replies

KTKismet · 18/09/2022 05:17

Can't sleep and read this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11222927/Prince-William-Princess-Kate-considering-taking-9-year-old-George-Queens-funeral.html

AIBU to think "palace aides" should wind their necks in and leave Prince George alone, rather than insisting he attends the queen's funeral.

He has a lifetime of service ahead of him, surely they should preserve his childhood as long as possible. I think it's hugely inappropriate, AIBU?

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carefullycourageous · 19/09/2022 19:55

Pinkpeony2 · 19/09/2022 19:48

I think that’s just your wishful thinking there.
They will be around for many generations after you have long gone.
If the last 10 days hasn’t shown you that then you have your head in the sand.

I don't think anyone knows which way the monarchy story will go from here. Today was the end of an era, we will never see funeral like it again I think.

Support for the monarchy is not what it was and it declines as you drop down the age brackets. Time will tell, I am just hoping we don't have to have yet another fabricated culture war about it.

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:56

Can anyone answer this …

What happens is George turns out to be gay? No natural children … no further heir …

would they just tell him he’s simply not allowed to be gay (!!?) or make him abdicate to Charlotte?

BlueRidge · 19/09/2022 19:57

"because this lot look to be on borrowed time."

Really? You must have been watching a different Jubilee and funeral from the rest of us then.
Estimated viewing figures worldwide of over 4 billion? I don't reckon theyr'e going anywhere yet.

Missingpop · 19/09/2022 19:58

I think his parents are the best people to judge if he’s mature enough to attend his grannies funeral; it’s definitely not down to palace aide’s; William & Kate are grounded enough to choose what’s right for their family unit as will Peter Phillip & Zara Tindle.
Whatever they all choose the children will be surrounded by a loving family who will all be on hand to take good care of them.

LordEmsworth · 19/09/2022 19:58

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:56

Can anyone answer this …

What happens is George turns out to be gay? No natural children … no further heir …

would they just tell him he’s simply not allowed to be gay (!!?) or make him abdicate to Charlotte?

Why are those the only options you can imagine?

And who is "they"?

spanieleyes · 19/09/2022 19:58

He becomes King and, when he passes, the next in line comes next! Plenty of monarchs died without issue, there is always someone next in line somewhere!

Applesonthelawn · 19/09/2022 19:59

We do our children no favours by hiding them from the realities of life including death. She was his great grandmother, not his mother, so it is not comparable to William and Harry's experience. Neither were the circumstances of her death tragic. I think they are the right age to know that old people die and what it means. Most importantly, their parents guided them through it. Kids can manage pretty much anything if someone trusted shows them the way through it.

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:59

LordEmsworth · 19/09/2022 19:58

Why are those the only options you can imagine?

And who is "they"?

They: the royal family

The only other option I can think of is that he adopts a child with his husband?

katepilar · 19/09/2022 20:00

daretodenim · 18/09/2022 05:32

Going to his great grandmother's funeral could be a healthy thing.

Going to his great grandmother's funeral when the world's cameras will be on him, he's only 9 and there's a media circus going on? No. That's entirely different.

If he was smuggled in the back of the church and could sit out of sight of anybody other than close family, then that's different. But that's not why he'd be there. The idea is to show "continuity". He's 9. His grandfather is working the "continuity" right now and his father too. Unless they're incompetent, then they should leave the child out of it.

I agree with this!

nannykatherine · 19/09/2022 20:03

Seriously
stop taking everything you read in the daily mail literally
how do they know what palace aides said
its up to the e parent's

loveireland · 19/09/2022 20:06

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:56

Can anyone answer this …

What happens is George turns out to be gay? No natural children … no further heir …

would they just tell him he’s simply not allowed to be gay (!!?) or make him abdicate to Charlotte?

Plenty of gay people have children. When George does die, the next in line takes the throne. That will be George's first born (if he has any) then Charlotte, then her first born. Quite simple really.

Mumwithbaggage · 19/09/2022 20:06

Some of those choristers weren't much younger.

threatmatrix · 19/09/2022 20:08

My mother and my aunt did not take me to my nans funeral I never forgave them.

BMW6 · 19/09/2022 20:09

If George has no natural children for whatever reason the Crown would pass to Charlotte.

If she has died before him it would pass to her eldest child. If she is dead and had none it would go to Louis

StoneofDestiny · 19/09/2022 20:09

The point is, she died 10 days ago. Dragging this out so long is ridiculous.

LordEmsworth · 19/09/2022 20:11

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:59

They: the royal family

The only other option I can think of is that he adopts a child with his husband?

Or - he stays single. Or he marries a man and doesn't have kids. Or he chooses for himself - as many gay men and women have done before now - to hide it and marry a woman and pretend. If he is gay, he has a lot of options, which may or may not be to his family's liking.

If he were to abdicate, through choice or pressure from his mother or siblings (who would be the Royal Family if he were king) then whoever is next in line would be his "natural heir" - when Edward VIII abdicated, it wasn't a case of "hmm who shall we pick"...

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 20:14

George and Charlotte were wheeled out purely for the usual public relations purposes, not because attending this funeral might conceivably be a healthy experience for them. There was always the Windsor service for that, but they were used wholly because the Palace wants people to go aah.

ReneBumsWombats · 19/09/2022 20:18

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:56

Can anyone answer this …

What happens is George turns out to be gay? No natural children … no further heir …

would they just tell him he’s simply not allowed to be gay (!!?) or make him abdicate to Charlotte?

If he has no legitimate heirs for any reason, the crown will presumably pass to Charlotte.

MissAmbrosia · 19/09/2022 20:18

goodbyestranger · 19/09/2022 20:14

George and Charlotte were wheeled out purely for the usual public relations purposes, not because attending this funeral might conceivably be a healthy experience for them. There was always the Windsor service for that, but they were used wholly because the Palace wants people to go aah.

How ridiculous. Like PR is needed!

DancingBudgie · 19/09/2022 20:20

They're not typical kids. They're brought up with a different set of protocols to other kids.
They get told what to do and when to do it.
They don't get choices, so it's all academic what anyone else would do.

oakleaffy · 19/09/2022 20:21

Prince George and Princess Charlotte behaved impeccably.
Can’t see any problem with them attending their Granny’s Funeral.

Kedece2410 · 19/09/2022 20:22

EbbyEbs · 19/09/2022 19:59

They: the royal family

The only other option I can think of is that he adopts a child with his husband?

Providing an heir isn't compulsory

If he didn't then on his death the next in line, Charlotte, or her children would be crowned. That's the whole point of the line of succession

oakleaffy · 19/09/2022 20:24

Edit : Great Grandmother for George and Charlotte.

Madamum18 · 19/09/2022 20:26

KTKismet · 18/09/2022 05:17

Can't sleep and read this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11222927/Prince-William-Princess-Kate-considering-taking-9-year-old-George-Queens-funeral.html

AIBU to think "palace aides" should wind their necks in and leave Prince George alone, rather than insisting he attends the queen's funeral.

He has a lifetime of service ahead of him, surely they should preserve his childhood as long as possible. I think it's hugely inappropriate, AIBU?

I was devastated when not allowed to attend my beloved grandmother's funeral aged 9

Hiphopboppertybop99 · 19/09/2022 20:27

I realise this is after the event. I think George and Charlotte seemed to cope very well at the funeral today. I'm sure William and Kate woukd have discussed it with them in great depth. At their ages they will have learned about death at school.
They went to church for a funeral service. They didn't walk in the procession through the streets like William and Harry had to do for their mother.
The Queen did not die in the same circumstances as Diana. She was after all 96, whose health has deteriorated over the last 2 years or so. Although it has still been quite a shock.