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Is the UK suffering from mass hysteria?

458 replies

User135644 · 16/09/2022 19:19

The Queen's passing is sad and seismic and the funeral will be a special occasion.

However, people genuinely seem to have gone mad.

OP posts:
ClaudineClare · 16/09/2022 21:41

Jellykat · 16/09/2022 19:28

No, people are not weeping and wailing in the streets, now that WOULD be mad!

Wait until Monday...

Jennybeans401 · 16/09/2022 21:45

Yes yes, YANBU! I do think it's all a bit bonkers, the 12 hour queuing to see the Queen's coffin. I don't understand it.

She was a great lady, I totally respect her and will watch the funeral. But... yes there's a lot of stuff I just don't understand.

MrsLighthouse · 16/09/2022 21:46

News report of someone bringing their parents ashes to view the queen 😳

LucilleDarlingtonUnexpectedly · 16/09/2022 21:47

ForfuckssakeEXHstopbeingatwat · 16/09/2022 19:22

Haven't seen a single example of hysteria. Lots and lots of people wanting to show respect to the passing of a hugely symbolic individual. Your post snacks more of hysteria and hyperbole than what I've seen.

Exactly.

zen1 · 16/09/2022 21:48

This is nothing compared to Diana, but there’s still the propensity for it to escalate!

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 16/09/2022 21:48

I'm utterly sick of it

ConcernedMum22 · 16/09/2022 21:49

The media has us believe everyone is beside themselves but not one person in any work meeting or discussion even mentioned it (aside from the day off) all week.I'm in Scotland though so not sure if people relate as much up here.

LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus · 16/09/2022 21:51

A work meeting was postponed yesterday for two weeks because of it, and I can't understand that.

AngelinaFibres · 16/09/2022 21:59

NipplesSkywards · 16/09/2022 19:31

Don't be so ridiculous
People are just showing their respect , something we do rather well
She was very much loved & looked up to by many
Never judge someone's grief it reflects badly on you

This. You can watch/ listen to the coverage or you can go on catch-up, netflix, read a book etc etc and watch a million other things. You don't have to take part in any mourning at all. You can do a shop that covers Monday in the same way as you would for any other Bank Holiday and then ignore all of it. On Tuesday it will all be over. We have a monarchy. The head of that monarchy has died. We do state occasions brilliantly and I will watch the bits of the funeral that interest me and wander off and do something else in the bits that don't. If people wish to express emotion that's up to them. I haven't seen any hysteria. No one is shouting and wailing like they did for Diana. Scotland did a tremendous job and the city and countryside looked absolutely stunning. It has all been done with great dignity and style. Surely we can allow a week for this before we get back to Martin Lewis shouting and yelling . Now that really is deliberately seeking to wind people up and cause mass hysteria.

Cleopatra67 · 16/09/2022 22:02

Yes - totally mental.

MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2022 22:04

AngelinaFibres · 16/09/2022 21:59

This. You can watch/ listen to the coverage or you can go on catch-up, netflix, read a book etc etc and watch a million other things. You don't have to take part in any mourning at all. You can do a shop that covers Monday in the same way as you would for any other Bank Holiday and then ignore all of it. On Tuesday it will all be over. We have a monarchy. The head of that monarchy has died. We do state occasions brilliantly and I will watch the bits of the funeral that interest me and wander off and do something else in the bits that don't. If people wish to express emotion that's up to them. I haven't seen any hysteria. No one is shouting and wailing like they did for Diana. Scotland did a tremendous job and the city and countryside looked absolutely stunning. It has all been done with great dignity and style. Surely we can allow a week for this before we get back to Martin Lewis shouting and yelling . Now that really is deliberately seeking to wind people up and cause mass hysteria.

Yeh I can’t say I’m missing the doom and click bait it replaces

DistressedDamson · 16/09/2022 22:04

TempsPerdu · 16/09/2022 19:41

I think something complicated is going on. I’m not sure how much of it is actually about the Queen; at least some of it, I think, is an outpouring of all the pent up emotions of the past few years, whether they stem from unresolved trauma from the pandemic, Brexit or whatever. Some kind of recognition that the country has changed dramatically in quite a short space of time, and the desire to seek out something that unifies rather than divides us.

Then there’s another group who just want to feel part of history; to be able to say ‘I was there’ or (often more pertinently) show others that they were there. The narcissism of mobile phones and social media is probably feeding into this to sone extent.

Psychologically it’s all quite interesting - not sure I’d describe it as mass hysteria exactly, but our collective psyche as a nation seems to be extremely fragile at the moment and the pilgrimage of ‘The Queue’ is clearly providing some kind of catharsis for a lot of people.

well put

mondaytosunday · 16/09/2022 22:05

What are you seeing that I'm not? I see thousands of people calmly waiting to pay their respects. I see people quietly observing her the last trip from Buckingham Palace.
Sure there's the odd person a bit OTT, but you get that in any very crowded situation.

CandyLeBonBon · 16/09/2022 22:08

CN ANNADURAI

In 1969, the funeral of CN Annadurai took the Guinness World Record for highest funeral attendance, a record it still holds. Annadurai was a chief minister in the Tamil Nadu region of India. Around 15 million people gathered in the region's capital of Chennai to follow the funeral procession.

felulageller · 16/09/2022 22:08

Yes

OMG12 · 16/09/2022 22:14

No. It’s very different feeling to when Diana died which was mass hysteria.

the only hysteria I’ve witnessed is from the anti monarchists who are practically frothing at the mouth to point out people who are quietly and respectfully contemplating the death of a much loved monarch are hysterical

MarvelMrs · 16/09/2022 22:18

Nope. In fact round by me and in my large public workplace I found myself wondering if I am the only one who noticed the Queen’s passing. It seems barely recognised.

Tubs11 · 16/09/2022 22:24

Not hysteria, just folk wanting to be part of history I suspect.

Diana, now that was hysteria

Shortandfurry301 · 16/09/2022 22:24

I think a lot of it is due to a repressed sense of British patriotism that only seems to be freely expressed during half-decent sporting prowess and royal occasions.

^^ I think this is a really interesting theory. Especially post-Covid when many people were not able to mourn the death of their loved ones.

It could also explain why repressed English men feel the need to be violent at football matches.

Diana wasn't mad btw. Yes she struggled with her mh during her marriage, but many young mothers in their twenties would have similar issues if they found out that their husband loved someone else but they were obligated to pretend in front of the entire world that their marriage was fine. . And when she didn't want to pretend any more she was villified! It was put about by paid PR professionals and friends of Charles that she was mad. The same tactic that Victorian gentlemen used against the wives they couldn't divorce. Yes she was paranoid latterly but she had been fed vile untruths by Martin Bashir and thought she couldn't trust her own staff. How miserable that must have been for her. In between those two phases though she blossomed and was very focused on her causes.

Oxfordkitchen · 16/09/2022 22:24

Great post @TempsPerdu

GaffNest · 16/09/2022 22:26

zen1 · 16/09/2022 21:48

This is nothing compared to Diana, but there’s still the propensity for it to escalate!

The level of the collective sorrow when Diana died was unreal. Never seen anything like it.

With the Queen it’s more reverence. She represents the UK (and the commonwealth) so it’s not just the person but the symbolism of the role. She’s been a fantastic stateswoman who has barely put a foot wrong in her seven decades. The role itself (monarch) being non partisan is very much about unifying and comforting people, and she has done that throughout her entire reign. Mandela loved her (unlike Thatcher and Reagan the Queen supported him and his cause, hence the Queen not seeing eye to eye with Thatcher whom she saw as uncaring). I saw a fellow Irishman Martin McGuinness react to her in a way I’ve never seen him react to anyone before. He was like a giddy 10 year old. She commanded huge respect and made people feel 10 feet tall, and this level of respect is now being seen in her death.

awaynboilyurheid · 16/09/2022 22:27

Yes the media have lost it, just watched Kate Garroway and Ben on breakfast tv and it was like watching something from the Will Ferrell film anchorman!
Kate actually said let us know if you’ve met someone in the queue to pay your respects to the Queen lying in state. and now they have started a romance!
Let’s get the term “ quipid” trending ( instead of Cupid she said to swap it for the qu in queen)

Did she look at the average age of people in the queue! and why would you hook up in a funeral line ?
Next day there was zero mention of it. Honestly!

jennakong · 16/09/2022 22:32

YABU. I recall Diana's death and the reaction - people flinging flowers in front of a coffin? Fecking Elton John warbling, and her awful brother and his inflammatory drivel? And 9/11 not long after that - even the unexpected Leave vote, which was greeted like the advent of Armageddon. I don't think the people publicly mourning the Q are unhinged at all. They seem quite together and restrained. It seems to be younger and, interestingly, more 'educated' people who have a tendency to hysterical overreaction.

Whammyyammy · 16/09/2022 22:34

Uk, no.
MN, yes

2emanwen · 16/09/2022 22:35

Pumperthepumper · 16/09/2022 19:23

Yes, it’s insane. People actually leaving food to rot during a cost of living crisis because a public servant once did a skit with a green screen.

I don't get what you mean