Page 18 | To think publishing the video of King Charles getting annoyed when signing a visitors book today is very unkind?

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 2022-09-13T19:51:10+00:00

He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief. AIBU to think this should not have been made public? Most people would lose their temper at a time like that in their own lives. Why publish this?

LaDamaDeElche · 15/09/2022 06:21

bellinisurge · 13/09/2022 21:02

He's just sacked a load of staff during this period of mourning when we're not supposed to ride bikes or catch buses or whatever other nonsensical bullshit they've come out with. I was all for being respectful until people were losing their jobs and getting arrested for wrongthink.

They haven't been sacked, they have been informed that they may be made redundant due to him, you know, becoming King and the fact that the jobs that they do won't exist any more. They will be assisted to look for new roles.

LaDamaDeElche · 15/09/2022 06:22

EntertainingandFactual · 13/09/2022 21:14

I’ve just watch the ‘every stinking time’ video.
He’s old, grieving and he’s probably at the end of his tether. He’s had a full on week.
The small things are what make everyone crack under pressure. The straw that broke the camel’s back.

Exactly this.

Glamorgans · 15/09/2022 07:00

I like that he's got a personality!

He's been travelling non stop, he's lost his mother, probably hasn't slept properly stopped or had even an hour to himself.

We didn't see the queen for years and years up this close with cameras/social media just not there, she could have been the same!

Roussette · 15/09/2022 07:17

He's been travelling non stop, he's lost his mother, probably hasn't slept properly stopped or had even an hour to himself

He arrived at Highgrove mid afternoon yesterday, and he is there all day today to recuperate so he has had 'an hour to himself'.
I can provide footage of his arrival at Highgrove if anyone doubts this.

happychops · 15/09/2022 07:22

Did you see the size of the table and the two huge documents he had to sign? No wonder he wanted that tray moved.
In any other job he would have had bereavement leave after the death of a family member - expected or not - but he & the others have had to get straight on to the formal stuff - in front of millions. He doesn’t want that job but he has no choice, he had quite a nice life with Camilla and now, at a time when most are enjoying retirement, his life will be full on and public. I’m not a royalist but I feel for them. On a plus, the royals and all
our pomp and ceremony brings in a batshit amount of money from tourism every year. Let’s support them (apart from dodgy. Andrew) and be proud of our history.

miserablecat · 15/09/2022 07:24

YANBU

I haven't RTFT but his situation, while the same as the Queens (in 1952) in that he is inherits the Monachy, the Media and public scrutiny is completely different.
In 1952 people's main source of news and information would have been newspaper and radio. Of course there was tv but not everyone had one but there certainly wasn't 24 hour live coverage of everything she did. The Internet wasn't a thing so you didn't get commoners like us, discussing and analysing their behaviour en masse. There was not the constant goldfish bowl that now exists.

I know I lost my shit over some stupid stuff in the days after each of my parents died, and some if it I feel pretty ashamed about, but thankfully it was mainly in private. The RF - and Charles in particular - has been expected to stand on ceremony, meet dignitaries, give addresses, speeches, meet the public literally within hours of his mother dying. I know she was old and he has been "prepared" for this, but you can't train all emotion out of someone, he is still human.

On other threads people have been (rightly imo) saying how awful it was the Harry and William as teenagers had to follow their mothers coffin, and take part in the ceremony like that in front of media/scrutiny. And it probably has affected their MH. ....But even now the moment one of them shows a human sign of emotion - holding hands with his wife - he is criticised for that! even though others were also holding hands

LittleBearPad · 15/09/2022 07:27

Roussette · 15/09/2022 07:17

He's been travelling non stop, he's lost his mother, probably hasn't slept properly stopped or had even an hour to himself

He arrived at Highgrove mid afternoon yesterday, and he is there all day today to recuperate so he has had 'an hour to himself'.
I can provide footage of his arrival at Highgrove if anyone doubts this.

Given it’s on the newspaper headlines why would anyone doubt it?

Im glad he has 24 hours to be by himself before the weekend and funeral.

Snugglepiggy · 15/09/2022 07:41

I know how incredibly tetchy I get when I'm tired .And as I've got older insomnia has become more of a problem.The slightest thing to worry about can keep me awake.Especially knowing I've something important to do the next day.Some days I barely hold it together. I dont need to see footage but I'm glad Charles has gone to Highgrove if only for one day.I doubt that would be enough to rebalance me after a week of sitting by my dying mothers bedside then doing back to back public engagements that are filmed constantly. Apparently he's on the road again on Friday to visit Wales.So considering there's a full state funeral still to power through not much of a rest really.Especially at 73.

Roussette · 15/09/2022 07:49

LittleBearPad · 15/09/2022 07:27

Given it’s on the newspaper headlines why would anyone doubt it?

Im glad he has 24 hours to be by himself before the weekend and funeral.

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It was on my local news. I had no idea it was newspaper headlines. That's why. But now I know it's national

AllyCatTown · 15/09/2022 08:07

This isn’t out of character for him so I don’t get the comments about him grieving etc. Sure excuse this behaviour but don’t be surprised if in a few years you’re still seeing videos of bad behaviour from him. I’m sure the queen had some stressful days but I don’t remember her acting like this.

NonGardener · 15/09/2022 09:35

Yika · 13/09/2022 21:02

I think he was well prepared both for his mothers death and also for his new role. She (the queen) also stepped up to the throne at a very young age having lost her own father in a much more untimely fashion and as far as I know she has always kept a very unruffled demeanour. I think he should be able to rise above petty annoyances when in public. It doesn’t show him in a good light.

I don't think anything like this would ever have been published - the press was much more deferential back then. Besides which, in those days, there was not the constant presence of video cameras/phones. Having said that, he is going to have to learn to control his temper in public.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 15/09/2022 09:37

WeepingSomnambulist · 13/09/2022 21:14

There are loads of videos of charles making nasty comments and being short tempered. It's who he is. He is a spoilt boy who surrounded himself with yes men from young age. He just doesn't have the grace he should for this role. We might as well get used to it. It has nothing to do with his grief.

This, exactly. He is querulous, short-tempered and entitled. But we're stuck with him...

BuildersTeaMaker · 15/09/2022 09:37

He seemed to me to be very nervous and uncomfortable the whole way through that first proclamation. He was fidgeting a lot and grimizing in that way he does with his moth. Just not relaxed at all. As people say he has had years to prepare for the role, years to train himself out of nerves on events like these , years to train himself out of mannerisms and ticks (like playing with cuff links, touching his hanky etc) to come across as relaxed and graceful.

but he’s new, he’s grieving, and I’ll cut some slack for time being. But really he needs to be less “pained” and that tension is probably what made him so impatient re ink bottles. Clearly he has an issue as he’s writing in fountain pen which is just nasty if you do t like it, on teeny tiny tables. God knows why someone couldn’t have just passed him a single pen, and put one single document down at a time- clearly there wasn’t enough room on that table so whole thing was a bit of a disaster waiting to happen.

Samarie123 · 15/09/2022 09:44

I thought it was hilarious - the bumbling old fool

blubberball · 15/09/2022 09:52

William did it nicely though. Seems like a fine man

Wickedgreengirl · 15/09/2022 09:53

Yika · 13/09/2022 21:02

I think he was well prepared both for his mothers death and also for his new role. She (the queen) also stepped up to the throne at a very young age having lost her own father in a much more untimely fashion and as far as I know she has always kept a very unruffled demeanour. I think he should be able to rise above petty annoyances when in public. It doesn’t show him in a good light.

Exactly this! I watched it and thought ‘well the Queen wouldn’t have acted so petulantly’.

Hagpie · 15/09/2022 09:59

I would insist we leave him alone about this because he is under so much pressure… if this wasn’t his usual behaviour.

bemusedmoose · 15/09/2022 10:04

The man has just lost his mother, his father not that long ago, he is feuding with his son over his wife's crappy behaviour and to top it all off he's just been made King and isnt allowed to show his grief in public. I think in his position i might throw a hissy fit over something trivial too. There is only so much a person can take before they boil over.

It doesnt matter how old you are when your parents die - that child in you is lost and mortified and that is for regular people who can have a bloody good cry and some time off to grieve. At his lowest ebb he is not allowed privacy or down time - that's going to take it's toll on your mental stability at the time. It's just being human.

There is nothing wrong with it being publicised the first time as part of the signing, but to keep pushing it as bad behaviour, a sign of his personality... that's tantamount to bullying and not acceptable.

Chanel05 · 15/09/2022 10:13

@bemusedmoose agree with you completely - he's only human.

Eskarina1 · 15/09/2022 10:13

I absolutely would have lost it over a leaking pen in the days after my dad died. And that would have told you nothing about my character.

I work in a high stress environment and am consistently told by colleagues that they value the calm I bring and how I never show any stress.

He might be bad tempered and entitled, there may well be other evidence of this but how he acts when grieving doesn't tell us anything.

antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 10:14

miserablecat · 15/09/2022 07:24

YANBU

I haven't RTFT but his situation, while the same as the Queens (in 1952) in that he is inherits the Monachy, the Media and public scrutiny is completely different.
In 1952 people's main source of news and information would have been newspaper and radio. Of course there was tv but not everyone had one but there certainly wasn't 24 hour live coverage of everything she did. The Internet wasn't a thing so you didn't get commoners like us, discussing and analysing their behaviour en masse. There was not the constant goldfish bowl that now exists.

I know I lost my shit over some stupid stuff in the days after each of my parents died, and some if it I feel pretty ashamed about, but thankfully it was mainly in private. The RF - and Charles in particular - has been expected to stand on ceremony, meet dignitaries, give addresses, speeches, meet the public literally within hours of his mother dying. I know she was old and he has been "prepared" for this, but you can't train all emotion out of someone, he is still human.

On other threads people have been (rightly imo) saying how awful it was the Harry and William as teenagers had to follow their mothers coffin, and take part in the ceremony like that in front of media/scrutiny. And it probably has affected their MH. ....But even now the moment one of them shows a human sign of emotion - holding hands with his wife - he is criticised for that! even though others were also holding hands

We had internet and mobile phones when the Queen's mother died. She did not behave like this under constant scrutiny.

antelopevalley · 15/09/2022 10:16

Eskarina1 · 15/09/2022 10:13

I absolutely would have lost it over a leaking pen in the days after my dad died. And that would have told you nothing about my character.

I work in a high stress environment and am consistently told by colleagues that they value the calm I bring and how I never show any stress.

He might be bad tempered and entitled, there may well be other evidence of this but how he acts when grieving doesn't tell us anything.

I would not have. After both my parents died in a car accident every other stress seemed incredibly unimportant. Shit like a pen leaking seemed so unimportant.

Mfsf · 15/09/2022 10:17

What ? He behaved like a spoiled child , the person who is supposed to be head of state and you think people are wrong for criticising it !
you should be worrying about people loosing their ability to criticise the monarchy . That is a massive issue

Grantanow · 15/09/2022 10:17

I agree with bellinisurge.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/09/2022 10:21

I would insist we leave him alone about this because he is under so much pressure… if this wasn’t his usual behaviour

Exactly
A snit over an penstand or a leaking pen doesn't matter a damn in itself, but the attitude behind it may well matter a great deal

And why are folk suggesting he hasn't had a break in all this? Yes he's been busy, but "hardly a nanosecond" is a bit much, it's not as if he's in his nineties like his mum, and these days 73 isn't often the point where people put their feet up - especially if every single thing they're expected to do is organised and smoothed by others