To think publishing the video of King Charles getting annoyed when signing a visitors book today is very unkind?

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He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief. AIBU to think this should not have been made public? Most people would lose their temper at a time like that in their own lives. Why publish this?

He was on a very tight timetable, I don't see how he could arbitrarily just change that around to spend more time talking. I doubt that anyone going to see him actually expected to be able to talk to him.

People are overreacting ridiculously. He hardly said anything. He is still grieving and got a bit frustrated, many people would be the same, you just want things to go smoothly at these times. My DH was the same when he lost his mum, just got annoyed by minor things but wasn't badly behaved overall. It's silly to compared to his children when their mother died, he's hardly behaving like that whilst paying his respects, no doubt their behaviour was not good at times (which would be understandable).

I have only ever heard people saying what a lovely person he is (those who actually know him) but because of Princess Diana people have decided they know him better even though they've never met him and will f8ne any fault possible.

I'm not a massive royal family fan, I don't dislike them at all but not an avid follower but just feel people can be extremely unfair.

Fountain pens don't like air travel. It's the changes in pressure, I assume.

Not you @LobeliaBaggins ! There had been comments earlier in the thread.

Not especially pro- or anti-royalist (would probably be more pro-republican if we didn’t have a history of elevating idiots to high public office) but the staff redundancy terms (not “sacking”) sound pretty reasonable to me compared to some that people have to suffer in the private sector. Given the state of the Queen’s health (which staff will have been much more aware of than the general public), surely they must have seen it coming for a while?

he's had to hold a lot in check so yes the pen gets it!

I don't suppose anyone would comment if just the pen had "got it", but so did a number of staff who are in no position to answer back. At this rate I'd expect the staff losses a new face in the job brings to become a tsunami - and I don't just mean because the Clarence House staff may not be needed now

Worth remembering that back in Golden Jubilee year the Queen lost both her mum and sister within weeks, and did she behave like this? Did she hell ...

Apart from the more than statutory redundancy money offered, everything else is legally what employers have to do. If you know private firms doing less, then they are acting illegally.

Perhaps she would've made a passing comment if a fountain pen had exploded over her and not for the first time.

The Queen would not have behaved like this. She had decorum.

Someone with more knowledge of the Royal protocols might explain this.

Why is there a need for the new Monarch to race around the Union left right and centre to sign the documents to ascend the throne? I realise that Accession rules apply and he must sign to ascend the throne, but why could the dignitaries of the Union Parliaments or whoever needed to witness it not all come to London together and do it all in one day? I thought all the racing around by Charles was a tad unnecessary. Bring the mountain to Mohammed surely?

But as others have said, it had to be done at breakneck speed lest the peasants revolted and realised what was happening!

Sorry to say it, but the Coronation is just a pageant for the peasants isn't it?

He is King, there could be a simple ceremony in Buck House, Westminster Abbey, wherever to stick the crown on his head, but no it has to be millions more spent on a carnival of crowns and all the attendant security issues all over again.

It’s not rude. You’ve no qualms about being rude about Charles on here, why should I have any regarding you? You’re giving a short response because you have nothing to say.

He did speak to those at Hillsborough. There was an article yesterday about how he spoke to a lady who brought her Corgi there to see, as an example. He can’t speak to every single person in attendance- he’d be there for weeks if that was the case.

And you say no one knows the story of the elderly who await the King, but you did earlier? Apparently they’d all been waiting since 6am having been wheeled out from nursing homes? So what is it?

At the end of the day, if you’re basing your view on someone over a leaky pen then that’s your prerogative, but I think many of us, Royalist, Republican or somewhere in between, can acknowledge that sometimes humans show human emotions and small things like a leaky pen can push you over the edge a bit.

It honestly just sounds like you’re bitter that you traveled up, waited around and didn’t get a meet and greet moment to brag about to your mates afterwards.

I'm rather looking forward to him being king. They'll be so much more of this.

It is the second time in days he has got annoyed over something minor. He does not have the temperament to be King.

The costs involved. People say to me ' ahh, but if we abolish them the money saved won't go to the people anyway ' as if this makes it ok. How do they know this ?
Or it's only 50 p per person or something: I don't swallow that one at all either. Propaganda.
Agree that all this running about on jets and in cars is a tad unnecessary and then they will go on about climate change!
I was really sad that the Queen died , but she was frail and 96 and probably just tired of it all.
This funeral , the coronation next year , the jubilee pageant this year, it must run into millions ( although the jubilee did raise millions for the economy, so maybe that wasn't as bad )
It's a double edged sword , having them or not having them , but I doubt they are going anywhere for a while.
Plus having every thing done for you must be nice.
He has a temper. I'm not surprised at that.
He won't be as popular as his mum was.
I wouldn't queue up for days to see a coffin , but each to their own.

He's not been very regal or statesmanlike so far. He's been petty and snappy, with no sense of occasion. If this is how he behaves when he is being filmed, one can only imagine how he is in private. Can you imagine Barack Obama handling the same situation so charmlessly? (And even if he did, we'd only be stuck with him for a maximum of eight years.) It's embarrassing to be represented by someone who is already making us look like a nation of forelock-tuggers.

Keyboard warriors are somewhat tiresome 🙄

People are overreacting ridiculously. He hardly said anything.

I don't remember hearing the queen swearing and having a strop, ever. He's on his second now, knowingly being televised, only a week in.

I think the most telling thing about Charles is the exasperated look to his aide for not reading his mind and moving the tableware in the previous strop. Now in this one, when Camilla points out he's written the wrong date on something else, if you listen, he's rude to her, then muttering that someone should have told him.

Yes. He's 73. So stop trying to do everything. Nobody expects all of this dashing around, but they do expect a pleasant king. His speech about the Queen was lovely, but he isn't doing himself any favours here.

Why is there a need for the new Monarch to race around the Union left right and centre to sign the documents to ascend the throne?

There isn't; he became king the instant his mother died, and as you say they could quite easily bring the various representatives to him - except it no doubt goes down better if he's perceived to be making an effort for his people

Which brings us to the Commonwealth and the question of whether, as Head, he'll be persuaded to do the kind of tour the Queen did. Good luck if he shows the same attitude there - especially as mum had to step in and ask them to give him the job - and even more so if Camilla bunks off any of it because she's widely reported to hate travelling

Of course they could send William and Kate instead, but then that deflects glory from Charles (which he's been seen to resent) and is likely to create more questions on why they didn't just give W&K the job in the first place

At this rate the Coronation might be a damp squib! Whatever about showing due reverence to the late Queen at present, I wonder will the same reverential attitude prevail regarding the pomp and ceremony involved for a pompous man. We shall see.

No idea if it was Charles idea or the grey men to fly around the UK to sign bits of paper but Camilla looks dead on her feet. Maybe the plan was made years ago when both nimble and full of energy.

I've done funeral organisation, the people utilities we had to contact, vicar, etc was brutal in my fifties.

I had to clear my parents council house in two weeks. That was brutal.

I agree that the new Consort looks exhausted.
However, they won't have to sit up the funeral directors sorting out the final details or sit on the phone for hours ringing the utilities up etc. her personal effects will be sorted out by other people too.
This has been planned for years in advance.
The flying / driving about must be hard , but maybe they will rest up later on next week and things will calm down a lot for them. Then it's time to grieve properly.

It is entirely possible that he was unaware they were filming that particular signing?? If he thought he was in private - even though losing your temper isn’t ideal generally when at work - he maybe thought he wasn’t as much on show?? Despite being on duty. I mean Camilla though very silent kind of faffed as well - understandably - but much less how you normally see her where they’re all smiles.

Camilla faffing was fine. She behaved appropriately. She always does.

I agree - but we know he’s not perfect. He has been a controversial figure with flaws. He is also not the queen. She had her own documented views about him in his younger years.
And it’s not her mother.

I really think he thought he was off camera.

In which case in answer to the question OP - yes I do think it was very unkind.