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To think publishing the video of King Charles getting annoyed when signing a visitors book today is very unkind?

489 replies

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/09/2022 20:51

He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief. AIBU to think this should not have been made public? Most people would lose their temper at a time like that in their own lives. Why publish this?

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BadNomad · 13/09/2022 23:39

Plenty of people lose parents without having tantrums. Charles has always been a grumpy bugger. This isn't new or temporary behaviour for him. He's 73, he's not going to change now.

DdraigGoch · 13/09/2022 23:40

eldora · 13/09/2022 20:53

YABU. Censoring bad behaviour is a step towards dictatorship.

I'm very glad that no one ever filmed me writing the wrong date by mistake and having a pen leak.

toomuchlaundry · 13/09/2022 23:42

Most people who have parents die don’t have to travel around the country meeting and greeting hundreds of people, go to at least 2 funeral services without having the actual funeral. Sign very important documents (I get stressed when having to sign contracts) all with the world’s media looking at your every move and copious people taking photos of you with their phones.

Ladybyrd · 13/09/2022 23:46

@Sparklythings1 I totally agree with you. She would be a tough act for anyone to follow, but sacking your staff and then having two rather public, pen-related strops in a couple of days... She looks like she's well accustomed to it, and trying to pacify him.

The guy is 73. His children say he is a workaholic. I don't think anyone expected all of this. Do less, but do it with good grace - that's what matters.

Carreterra · 13/09/2022 23:47

@WeepingSomnambulist
Completely agree. I don't think Charles is well, looking at his hands and feet looking so swollen ( his feet were on show when he visited a Sikh temple) he looks like he has psoriatic arthritis. Also his face is extremely red, not in the best health at all to inherit the throne.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 13/09/2022 23:50

it must be easy to get tetchy in pen situations when your fingers are inch-thick savaloys

Sparklythings1 · 13/09/2022 23:50

@Ladybyrd totally! Camilla did a glance at William in the public signing video and it was almost like here we go again 🙄 I wouldn’t want their job for a second but I do think it’s not that hard just to not be so blatantly arsehole-ish, I don’t know if he even cares 🤔

waffleyversatile1 · 13/09/2022 23:50

I can kind of relate a bit here. A week after I lost my lovely dad I tripped on the door of the dishwasher. It was my fault I had left the door down. I had kept my shit together up until that point but that stupid moment broke me. I kicked the dishwasher and swore at it then cried my heart out. I just wanted my dad. Would I behave like that on a normal day? Absolutely not. I love my dishwasher it's one of the only things that make my life easier Grin. I'm really surprised at the level of access cameras have been given. At times watching the news I haven't felt comfortable and switched the channel. For example the day after the queen died and King Charles arrived back in London he was filmed getting of the plane then sitting in his car on the tarmac. A photographer appeared to be very close. All the eyes of the world were on him whilst he was fiddling with the windows etc it just seemed so wrong.

justasking111 · 13/09/2022 23:50

He's carried the weight of his mother's imminent death for a while now as have others. Anne certainly. He's an exhausted grieving pensioner I get his tetchiness. He's got days more of this rigmarole.

What is interesting is Camilla. She knows her husband well. Oozes calm and carries on. She also looks absolutely exhausted. As does Sophie. Catherine is bearing up well having small children does distract the mind

Booklover3 · 13/09/2022 23:52

Yes I do think it’s mean. It’s not like he’s had any privacy to grieve either

StoneofDestiny · 13/09/2022 23:55

I'm sure it must be very tiresome signing pieces of paper all day, but it sort of goes with the territory

😂😂 Crikey - such a chore, for which he gets a job for life for himself and his offspring and their spouses, multiple mansions and palaces, servants to serve his every wish and command (including removal of inkwells) and no worry about healthcare, education or the electricity bill(s) - or even funeral costs.

CatchYouOnTheFlippetyFlop · 13/09/2022 23:57

He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief

STOP PRESS 70 odd year old man loses parents.

You forgot to add to his grief about his brother being bezzies with a peado and paying off a girl with his mums dosh, that was actually ours.

So you don't get to pick and choose his narrative sorry.

Ladybyrd · 14/09/2022 00:01

@StoneofDestiny I know, but if someone handed me a leaky pen, in all honesty, if I had just been pronounced Queen, there is a slight possibility I might get my panties in a bit of a wad.

This man had some terrible headlines behind him. He's made some beautiful speeches about the Queen. But if he's going to start flagging, and revealing a tetchy side right from the side off, better to scale it back and come in fresh, than trying to keep going 24/7. At 73, that won't last very long.

Porcupineintherough · 14/09/2022 00:03

Does it matter? I'm as republican as they come and even I wonder what sort of twat would judge him for it. He's human after all.

SemperIdem · 14/09/2022 00:17

I’ve never experienced it, being a peasant and all, but I think taking the role at pensioner age would be harder than at a young but still established adult age.

Not many live to their see their 70’s with both parents living, Charles has absolutely been trained from a young age to inherit this role but there was no training for grieving over 70 years of having parents.

I’m by no means a Royalist but it must be tremendously painful for Charles and I feel sorry for him. He’s the King yes, but he’s also a very sad old man.

Hawkins001 · 14/09/2022 00:24

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 13/09/2022 20:51

He has lost both parents in a short time frame, had a disagreement with his own son and taken on a very stressful job at the height of grief. AIBU to think this should not have been made public? Most people would lose their temper at a time like that in their own lives. Why publish this?

Could be to show his human side.

oviraptor21 · 14/09/2022 00:32

1000yellowdaisies · 13/09/2022 21:04

Just watched the clip.....i can't even see the issue, he barely says anything. The way the papers are reporting you'd think he threw the pen across the room and upended the desk

This. Typical upper class swearing as almost a punctuation which has little meaning and could accompany the most jovial of sentiments.

BirdyWoof · 14/09/2022 00:47

Septemberslooming · 13/09/2022 21:29

Get a grip. The balance between meeting VIP's and the general public needs to be thought out more carefully. I stood beside elderly people who had been brought from nursing homes at 6.00am this morning. Meanwhile our king is throwing tantrums over pens and meeting the great and good indoors.

No harm but no elderly should have been brought out of nursing homes at 6am to sit and wait for him. That’s just utterly stupid.

You also didn’t have to go, either.

I’m not a fan of Charles by any stretch but you’re talking out of your hole on this one. You’re complaining about how he didn’t spend hours talking to the elderly when he is is probably the same age as those sitting waiting for him. Awful for them to be waiting for hours but totally expected for him to spend the same time waiting around talking to people?

Wise up.

SpidersAreShitheads · 14/09/2022 00:49

oviraptor21 · 14/09/2022 00:32

This. Typical upper class swearing as almost a punctuation which has little meaning and could accompany the most jovial of sentiments.

I just watched it and thought the same.

"King Gets Irritated When Pen Leaks Onto His Fingers"

But that doesn't really cut it as a headline so hence why they're making more of it.

He's not rude to anyone, he's clearly just annoyed with the pen which sounds like it keeps leaking each time he uses it. I'd be irritated too. Being king doesn't mean being an automaton - and hasn't everyone been calling for Charles to show his emotions more?? Can't have it both ways.

I hardly think being irritated at a pen pissing ink on his fingers makes him unfit for king, or a bad person..... Huge non-story, but typical for here, the media loves a witch hunt.

LittleBearPad · 14/09/2022 00:55

He must be exhausted and he has days of this to go plus a funeral where cameras will be on him constantly. The night before he has to host pretty much every world leader having flown up and down the country, and had endless meetings..

As for the Clarence House team there’d be howls of anger if he had two sets of staff paid for by the taxpayer.

He wasn’t rude to anyone, except perhaps the pen!

Ladybyrd · 14/09/2022 00:55

I hardly think being irritated at a pen pissing ink on his fingers makes him unfit for king, or a bad person..... Huge non-story, but typical for here, the media loves a witch hunt.

He actually seemed to get in a bigger huff when he realised he'd got the date wrong, on two documents he'd signed that day. When your job is to sign documents, all day, for the rest of your life, I can see how that would be frustrating. Although the crowns and palaces and carriages might soften the blow.

Crazy8 · 14/09/2022 01:33

Nothing excuses his behaviour. His own children lost their mother in tragic circumstances. He was lucky enough to have his mother alive and well until he reached the ripe old age of 73. He needs to stop being so grumpy and petulant.

TheOnlyBeeInYourBonnet · 14/09/2022 02:18

They're just showing you what happened. You're free to make your own assessment of what it says about him and how much you care.

FWIW I don't recall being an arsehole to anyone in the days after my parent died but if I was I'll have to accept that some people will be compassionate and understanding about it, and others will think I'm a twat. Probably based on what they have already seen and heard about me.

SomethingOnce · 14/09/2022 02:27

I was expecting proper swearing. 3/10.

MissingNashville · 14/09/2022 02:27

I don’t think it’s unkind to show what actually happened. They’re not making anything up or speculating. It wasn’t a big deal but he does needs to control his temper, it’s a pen leaking. The one the other day, he needs to learn to use his words ‘could you move that so I have more room. Possibly even a ‘Thank you’.

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