Queen Elizabeth. Rest in Peace?

[IWishIHadNotDoneIt]

I understand that people across the country want to pay their respects to the late Queen but to send her body on a 2 day cross country journey from Scotland to London where she will be in a room for people to parade past 24/7 for a week doesn't seem to be very peaceful and a little undignified somehow. Her children are having to escort her on various legs of her journey. The Princess Royal. In particular, looks exhausted. King Charles is having to travel all around the country to meet and greet people.
AIBU to think that the whole country is allowed to mourn the loss of an great Queen except her own family. They have to carry on regardless 😪

[Snowiscold]

@TugboatAnnie

The cheering's a bit odd though.

Very. And the clapping. What is actually wrong with people? Do they think that’s the right way to behave? I note the commentator originally tried to ignore it, talking about a sombre, quiet mood, but then he couldn’t really and had to mention it.

[Ladybyrd]

It's bizarre to me that a year ago people (well, maybe just me) wore masks religiously and were scared stiff of getting covid, but now it's perfectly ok to travel to the other end of the country in our masses to see a coffin.

It's sad, but she was 96 years old and clearly not having a great time following the death of her husband, given her rapid decline afterwards. You could literally see it happening before your eyes.

I think rather than contributing to a mountain of flowers and stuffed toys and marmalade sandwiches (ffs), it would be a much nicer gesture to make a donation to Help the Aged, or any charity, in her memory. If everyone spent their money on that rather than blowing it on a trip to London to file past a wooden box (after an inordinate amount of time waiting), it could make a big difference, but each to their own.

[Mochudubh]

I think a bit of respectful clapping is OK, as in Edinburgh, but the "wooh, wooh" as they reached Buckingham Palace was plain weird.

[groeggmeg]

It's all odd. People saying they are 'absolutely loving it' is just a strange choice of words. Televise her last journey to the service but I feel the ceremony should be private, you should be allowed to ugly cry at a funeral without being worried you've got millions of eyes watching.

[HadEnoughOfBears]

@IWishIHadNotDoneIt

I understand that people across the country want to pay their respects to the late Queen but to send her body on a 2 day cross country journey from Scotland to London where she will be in a room for people to parade past 24/7 for a week doesn't seem to be very peaceful and a little undignified somehow. Her children are having to escort her on various legs of her journey. The Princess Royal. In particular, looks exhausted. King Charles is having to travel all around the country to meet and greet people.
AIBU to think that the whole country is allowed to mourn the loss of an great Queen except her own family. They have to carry on regardless 😪

What's the 2 day cross country journey? They flew her from Edinburgh airport at 6pm tonight.

[theveg]

It's bizarre to me that a year ago people (well, maybe just me) wore masks religiously and were scared stiff of getting covid, but now it's perfectly ok to travel to the other end of the country in our masses to see a coffin

Thank goodness this is the case!! Why on earth is it bizarre that people no longer behave like we're in a pandemic now that pandemic is over???

[Bagzzz]

Even for average people some just want something to delay grieving- fill the time after the death with as many funeral arrangements and calling relatives to put off the feelings. They (anyone bereaved including the royal family) know they need to get through the funeral.

Adrenaline to see you through a eulogy or reading or just being at the crematorium/place of worship or gathering when you are at the front as a close relative.

I think part of the lockdown struggle and loss of religious belief is that there isn’t a ritual and it may be harder to have no structure (on a much smaller scale) a religious leader can guide you through what normally happens and I’m not sure there is an equivalent yet.

[Snowiscold]

I don’t think the clapping is OK. It’s really rude and disrespectful. It’s like people there just have to make their presence felt. They can’t just stand in silence and witness. They have to make a noise, signal their presence and wreck the occasion.

[Anythingbutsnow]

I have been thinking that the BBC are showing essentially showing almost a week of footage showing a dead body being carted around the country. It is strange when I think of it like that. I'm not sure she's in her coffin. I think she was flown to a morgue in London the same day she died.

[Snowiscold]

@Anythingbutsnow

I have been thinking that the BBC are showing essentially showing almost a week of footage showing a dead body being carted around the country. It is strange when I think of it like that. I'm not sure she's in her coffin. I think she was flown to a morgue in London the same day she died.

Well, that’s not true, is it? Why would they go through such a pretence? There’s just no need.

[RewildingAmbridge]

I agree it doesn't seem a very dignified end, her body is literally decaying in a box being transported here there and everywhere for people to stare at.
I'm not a republican but it doesn't feel right

[RewildingAmbridge]

@Anythingbutsnow I said similar the other day. I hope she is somewhere safe, and not inside a travelling box

[Toddlerteaplease]

I was wondering about the amount of movement. I presumed she'd go straight from Edinburgh yo lie on state in St Stephens Hall. Not sure why the detour to the palace etc. unless it's time for the wife's family and staff to
Say good bye in private.

[antelopevalley]

What is happening was agreed by the Queen. This is literally what she would have wanted. Why should anyone deny her that?

[DotBall]

@Snowiscold

What do you mean? Of course they refer the the coffin, or hearse, because the Queen-as-was is no longer alive. Otherwise, they would have to say the body of the Queen.

When my dad died, we didn’t refer to his coffin as ‘dad’s coffin’. We just called it ‘dad’.

I think they very much so would go through all this without the Queen actually being carted around.

[Toddlerteaplease]

I didn't mind the clapping but yes the cheering was jarring and disrespectful. It's not a pop concert.

[wackamole]

she will be in a room for people to parade past 24/7 for a week...

It could be worse; the Russians have had Lenin in a mausoleum with people filing through to peer at him for almost 100 years! Stalin used to be in there too but he was reclassified.

[Ladybyrd]

People saying it's like losing your own mother. I had a lot of affection for the Queen, but I don't know how you can compare her passing with losing a parent.

[Mochudubh]

It's reputedly what HMQ wanted. Her daughter has been with her every step of the way. That curtsey at Holyrood. The long slow walk up the Royal Mile and the vigil.

I sure as hell hope that wasn't for an empty coffin as that really would be disrespectful.

[Starlightstarbright1]

@PaddleBoardingMomma

I was in Belfast today and saw the King and Queen consort, they looked so tired but didn’t waiver in smiles and pleasantries. Having to do all this due to protocol and tradition on top of grieving must be an incredible pressure, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone and I think they are doing a superb job. As for Anne, she’s been outstanding and I think this is a point people should really be commending rather than scoffing at. They are doing their duty, what’s expected of them and something I don’t believe many of us would be able to.

This exactly.

[ajandjjmum]

@waltzingparrot

I can't see why The Royal Family could not have had 2 or 3 days privately at Balmoral with the coffin before this journey started.

They did.

[happinesslovescompany]

@jetadore

Small price to pay for all the privileges they enjoy. Small private funeral while living in a fuck off palace? Can’t have it both ways.

Not in a million years would I want to do what the Queen did. If you're born into it then it's your destiny unless you duck out of it. . Remember the Queen was there so early because her Nazi loving uncle stepped down. I for one appreciate the sacrifices she made. Do you honestly think that living in Buck House made up for the lack of privacy, people pointing the finger at any perceived flaws with your kids or grandchildren? I'm glad Princess Anne wouldn't have titled for her kids, they seem like free spirits.

[SoupDragon]

showing a dead body being carted around the country.

it's hardly been "carted around the country" has it?

[ajandjjmum]

Charles hasn't had time to breathe, and Camilla looks knackered. DH says they've already left Buckingham Palace to go to Clarence House. I hope they get a stiff drink and an early night!

Anne has been wonderful and I think she will be a great supporter of Charles.

Sophie and Edward too - they loved the Queen, but are also showing such concern for other members of the family.

I hope that the extended family have a peaceful night tonight, as this is the final opportunity they will have of being a private family with her.

[happinesslovescompany]

What gives me heart in this awful process is that the responses of the public show that the social media response is not representative of the general public. I've heard so many people say that they wish their parents had the choice to die at home, in peace. Yes, we're lucky but no one will ever know.