Palace requests mourners to stop leaving stuff like marmalade sandwiches

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So the palace has now told people to stop leaving marmalade sarnies and such...

Those who thought it was ok the first time still think it's ok? Or now the palace acknowledges how ‘unsustainable’ it is change your opinion?

FWIW. It was idiotic the first time and still is.

I eat food to stay alive. Hundreds of tonnes of flowers are not necessary to anything, and I doubt they even really serve a purpose by being helpful/comforting to her family. I imagine her family would find the grief process easier if they didn't have to engage with this public spectacle.

It's not insane.

Everything we do has eco impact. Most of it much more than these flowers, so it's pretty disingenuous to bring that to the argument.

We don't just 'eat food to live'.It isn't as basic as that or we wouldn't choose to eat meat, choose to eat more at Christmas, choose to eat foreign foods brought many food miles. But most of us do. The eco impact of that is as much of a choice as our death rituals.

You don't like or approve of this ritual but I can't really think of any rituals in Western Society that doesn't have negative environmental impact. Weddings, Funerals or even Baptisms.

The best way to honour the Queen is to donate to many of the organisations that she visited during her long reign. Better then buying flowers that will just be thrown in the bin in a few days.

No, we shouldn't keep quiet when people are imposing their faux-grief on others who are genuinely bereft. Where on earth is that acceptable?

Who's imposing their faux grief on others? Just because they're laying flowers? ?? It may also be in remembrance or out of respect.

Why even feign grief? Trying to appropriate someone else's grief is appalling. People didn't used to behave like this. I still shudder at those awful women screeching 'Diaaaaannnna' as her cortege passed. The two boys walking behind it. Horrific day for them and then that.

Well that was 25 years ago. When was it that people didn't behave like "this"?

If we are being honest we all do things that aren't strictly necessary for survival. Even eating, or at least I hope so. The knowledge that many people exist at subsistence level or below distresses me and I hope every other person. Happily, for most of us there is a line to be drawn between profligacy and penitence and again, if we are being honest most of err away from a diet of bread and water.

Of course the flowers are a waste but they bring joy. To the people who lay them but also and here I am daring to presume the thoughts of the Royal Family because that's not stopping others, to the Queen's children. They might find it disgusting but they haven't said so we can't say either way.

What I can say is that I was moved to tears by the people who sent wreaths to my parents' funerals or just laid a bunch of lilies or freesias in the front garden. It was nothing on this scale but there were a lot of flowers. Some had cellophane on them.

I'was touched but not that surprised at the response to my mum's death because she was very outgoing and had lots of friends. But my dad was a quiet man and I was overwhelmed by how many neighbours wanted to show us how much they cared. But why shouldn't they? My dad was a good man. If they also gave money to research into Alzheimer's, which is what he died of, I'd have been happy. But I don't care because I fucking loved those flowers.

I have no problem with how people are choosing to mourn. I can't wait for it all to be over though. I was hoping that she would be our last monarch.

Yes, roll on next Tuesday.

Yes, roll on next Tuesday.

indeed

Cut flowers are flown in from heaven-knows-where and then are wrapped in reams of plastic; all damaging to the environment. Large bins for food bank donations would be better - or stuff for the homeless.

Donation bins for food banks would have been great.

But I think people would have still brought flowers. It's part of death in so many countries.

Not sure if it’s true, but I saw that her family don’t have to pay the 40% inheritance death duty. We’ve just had to pay this ourselves and now have to sell my husbands family home. It’s in order to not erode the royal family wealth. I’d like to not erode my own family’s wealth, thanks!

Ootl on this, why marmalade sandwiches? What have they got to go with the queen?

Jubilee this year-a sketch featuring the Queen and Paddington, marmalade sandwiches and a handbag. Seems in the 70 years that's what is being remembered.

No marmalade sandwiches brought by the streams of people filing past the Queens coffin.

It's mainly a FB thing. And some among the flowers laid for the Queen.

Why roll on next Tuesday? It will come soon enough. We always knew this was going to happen when the Queen died. My favourite TV programmes and sporting events haven't been cancelled but if they were my favourite restaurant is open and I have films downloaded.

On Monday all the shops will be shut but I can plan ahead like we all do on Christmas Day. I wouldn't mind betting it's inconveniencing me a lot more than most people here because all the bloody roads round here are bloody closed.

I will go out on Monday after the main event to mingle in the crowds round Westminster Abbey and give anxious strangers directions to the nearest tube station which will be some walk because most of them will be closed as well.

I'm quite looking forward to the restrained but still festive atmosphere. But that's because I ;like people in the main and still have a bit of joy in my heart..

Well said

Ah ok, makes sense, thanks.

WHY haven't people put their money into getting food for food banks? This waste of money on flowers is disgusting when people are going hungry. She left Charles £15 billion. I'd have more respect for the lot of them if they actually helped the poor. Charles has made quite a few staff at Clarence House redundant and it's come as a shock to them. Nice shiny new king eh??

It was quite a good sketch TBF. It'll be on YouTube somewhere

Did you not watch Her Majesty's skit with Paddington Bear for her Platinum Jubilee? No reason why you should have but it's worth looking up on YouTube because it's charming. She was obviously pleased to do it because paying taxes aside, I can't imagine many people made the Queen do things she didn't want to do. So I can't understand why so many people are taking offence on her behalf.

MLMSuperfan what an unnecessary and nasty comment.

YES op!!

The skit with Paddington Bear showed the Queen as such a good sport.

Apparently it was written without a speaking part for the Queen but she requested some during filming.

It wouldn't surprise me to read that it was one of the Bonne Maman staff. Companies will do anything these days for a bit of publicity.

Anyway what happened to good old Robertson's Marmalade.

@Ifrozethehoumous since you're asking it's Kenya mostly, which has huge reliance on cut flowers and other agrarian produce exported to the UK and other countries and which Kenya and many of its people rely on for income.

It's not our humanitarian duty to buy a bunch of scentless roses from M&S to keep people in faraway lands in employment but I do feel it is incumbent on us all to at least know where they fucking come from.

To be honest I could give or take the roses but I would miss those extra fine beans though.

I wish people would give a clue when they did this. I'm going to have to look it up now.