I don't want to be 'reigned over' anymore

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While I totally respect the Queen and how she served the country, I think it's now a good time to end the monarchy as I think modern society has outgrown it.

Just the idea that someone inherits the job of head of state through birthright and reigns over us peasants is crazy in this modern age. Then all the ceremonies, titles, line of succession are remnants of a completely different era and tbh remind me of episodes of The Tudors or Game of Thrones, it's just so archaic and out of place.

I think having to bow and curtsey to people just because they were born or married into a special family also seems ridiculous. Why should I have to curtsey to any of them? Not saying I'd be rude or disrespectful but having to bend my knee to a set of people as if they were deities, it's just insane! I think I'd actually feel humiliated.

I also don't get the fawning and crying outside the palace - by all means be respectful and recognise her contribution but crying about someone you've never met? To me it's OTT

Back in medieval times when there was little education and religion was used to manipulate the masses, I can understand why all the peasants went mad for their sovereign and saw them as annointed by God etc etc but we're much more enlightened now (most of us!) so we need to make way for a new way of doing things.

Even a new national anthem - why is it all about the king or queen and god saving them? Why not about the people, the nation as a whole?

That said, I also hate the idea of someone like Boris Johnson being head of state and I bet that's a role he'd go for if we were a Republic. Swings and Roundabouts!

YABU - God save the king, monarchy forever
YANBU - time to end the monarchy

He's mid 70s, I think she's late 70s. I would think the younger royals will be doing most of the foreign travels.

So did Diana, I think her score was higher than his.

YANBU. The only places for royalty are history books and fairytales.

I think we should have a referendum. I don't support the concept but if a majority of the population voted them in, so be it.

One of the richest families in Britain worth in excess of a billion quid gets unique tax breaks has a funeral declared a bank holiday costing reputedly 2 billion pounds whilst the country goes into vicious winter cost of living crisis. Oh and shelters a nonce and parades him about and threatens to arrest a lawyer for holding up a blank sheet of paper on Parliament Square. Show some respect.

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Of course he will, he can't resist. He's always believed his views were of the utmost importance and that everyone wanted to hear them. But when you're humoured from birth that everyone thinks you're important and wonderful, it's no real surprise.

He will be having a meeting with our elected PM on a weekly basis, the contents of which by unwritten rule will be kept secret. Not at all the ideal environment in which to exert undue influences behind the scenes.

How 'democratic'.

This time, if the anti-monarchy side loose, will it also then become "advisory"?

Good protest begins - we are a free people hopefully under the rule of law.

twitter.com/snb19692/status/1569736397547790337

I just read an article that many of Charles' staff have been made redundant. I really hope that it's not true.

@vera99 bravo

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp I’m pretty sure that’s going to be true. What a man. Seems like it IS ok to do some things whilst mourning. So much for ‘respect’.

So billionaire Charlie doesn't read the room well. Well, there's a surprise strap in it's going to get rough.

"Backstairs Billy" the Queen Mother's favourite and a lifelong servant was treated abominably upon her death. It's who they are.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3005715/Jealous-courtiers-took-vicious-revenge-Backstairs-Billy-Queen-Mothers-favourite-servant.html

I think they all do.

A proper "working" monarchy with members who have real jobs n the real world where they mix with real people (and can probably dress themselves on the morning)

ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp Otezres

What do you think will happen to the rest of the staff if you vote out the royals?
Seems to me that you have a double standard on your hands.

That Charles sacking news is a real gob-smacking shocker and the actions of a venal and super-rich entitled family. In what actual universe does that actually make any PR sense except in one when you just don't bloody care. They could have left it a month or two at minimal expense. But then it's "The Firm" after all, then it does make sense. Looks like love and affection is a carefully constructed one-way street.

@FrippEnos what are you blathering on about? I never said I wanted to vote out the royals.

Please do get facts straight. Thank you so much.

@FrippEnos so you think it's ok King Charles sacks his staff?

Pippa Crerar

One source told me: “Everybody is absolutely livid, including private secretaries and the senior team. All the staff have been working late every night since Thursday, to be met with this. People were visibly shaken by it.”

If it is true that Charles' staff at Clarence House are being disbanded and made redundant, well words fail me.

I understand that things change and all that but honestly, before the Queen is even buried the unfeeling nature of the new regime is apparent.

I don't know who they employ for their PR, but it's not a good look for the King if it is true and the news was delivered with such finality today. Nothing wrong with holding off until after the funeral, and having NDA's (maybe?) for staff in return for a handsome thank you for their wonderful service.

Well the piece that was linked to above doesn't say they were sacked. It said there would be changes and some jobs might go with offers of help to find jobs in other royal establishments, or externally, or enhanced redundancy payments. People might not like it but it isn't sackings. If he leaves Clarence House there obviously has to be changes.

For someone that snaps at others to get their facts straight, you should take your own words to heart.

I didn't say that it was ok. I asked what you thought was going to happen to the rest of the staff when the royals stop being royal as spome want.

Or in your terms have to pay their own way.

It seems strange to me that you have issues with him making staff redundant (not fired, again facts straight) when that is what will happen (for lots of the staff) if they stop becoming paid royals.

LMAO I totally agree with you OP.

I've clicked on the link and the article says that Charles’ offices will move to Buckingham Palace so the operations at Clarence House are entering a consultation period as they figure out who’s needed where.

It sounds as if some people will move with his offices, some will be offered alternative employment at other royal households, but there may also be some redundancies.

It’s quick, but I presume the logic is to give Charles’ staff a heads-up right away, instead of leaving them to wonder what’s going to happen?

Disastrous PR whatever the reasons. Probably delivered with a stabbing gesture from the poisoned nib of a pen found in an inkwell on a small desk somewhere, that the lackey picked up deferentially, before he realised he was to be sacked forthwith.