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I want to choose when I have a holiday!

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Shreik · 11/09/2022 18:24

I don't want the Queens funeral to take one of my days of holiday entitlement. What if I can't attend something I want to go to because I have no annual leave left because I had to take this off. So annoying.

OP posts:
underneaththeash · 11/09/2022 20:11

stop whingeing, it’s not an everyday event.

Mrsjayy · 11/09/2022 20:11

MajorCarolDanvers · 11/09/2022 20:10

Whilst it's a bank holiday it's not a statutory one. Therefore employers are not required to offer it. If they do it's their choice and they need to cover the cost.

Well and there is this.

Shreik · 11/09/2022 20:11

No just explaining how it works. A stupid thread anyway.

Why is it stupid?

I'm annoyed that I have to use a days leave when I could use it when my mum is over at Christmas. Can I post about being annoyed about something that will also have an impact on others ?

OP posts:
BigChesterDraws · 11/09/2022 20:13

justfiveminutes · 11/09/2022 18:29

It's a bank holiday so an extra day. It won't come out of your annual holiday allowance.

It might

www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights

Bank or public holidays do not have to be given as paid leave.

An employer can choose to include bank holidays as part of a worker’s statutory annual leave.

QuickQuestionNotAZombie · 11/09/2022 20:13

I'm shocking how many people think it's just a bonus day off for everyone, of course it isn't.

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:18

Shreik · 11/09/2022 20:11

No just explaining how it works. A stupid thread anyway.

Why is it stupid?

I'm annoyed that I have to use a days leave when I could use it when my mum is over at Christmas. Can I post about being annoyed about something that will also have an impact on others ?

But your not losing anything. If the Queens funeral wasn’t a bank holiday, you’d still be going to work.
Its down to employers to decide if they close or not.
But if they did close , you would presumably be off for the day and still get paid. If an employer doesn’t recognise it- employees would go to work as normal and still not lose anything.

O11 · 11/09/2022 20:22

Shreik · 11/09/2022 20:11

No just explaining how it works. A stupid thread anyway.

Why is it stupid?

I'm annoyed that I have to use a days leave when I could use it when my mum is over at Christmas. Can I post about being annoyed about something that will also have an impact on others ?

OP loads of people posting on here just don't seem to understand how annual leave works in some workplaces.
There's nothing stupid about your post and I would be pissed off too.

Trytoavoidthebastardbus · 11/09/2022 20:30

I have no leave left - so it’ll be interesting so see what happens for me - perhaps it will be unpaid - joy!

Trytoavoidthebastardbus · 11/09/2022 20:30

People asking about the jubilee we knew about that well in advance so not the same.

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:34

Obviously , we don’t know how the OPs company works their annual leave.

At my place if we work a bank holiday, we get extra pay ( time and a half) and a day off in lieu.

If we don’t work it, we’re off for the day and get paid as normal.

The queens funeral is declared a bank holiday but it’s down to employers if they close or not.

If they close- you’d get paid and not lose anything. But you’re off for the day, it’s an extra day.

If they stay open- then you’d just go to work as normal.

I can’t see how anyone would lose anything. If the Queen didn’t pass away recently , then we wouldn’t have the additional bank holiday in the first place.

Sorry if I’m missing something…

dementedpixie · 11/09/2022 20:35

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:18

But your not losing anything. If the Queens funeral wasn’t a bank holiday, you’d still be going to work.
Its down to employers to decide if they close or not.
But if they did close , you would presumably be off for the day and still get paid. If an employer doesn’t recognise it- employees would go to work as normal and still not lose anything.

Shes losing a day out of her annual leave
Her employer doesn't give an extra days leave and deducts the day off from her existing annual leave leaving her with fewer days to choose for herself

dementedpixie · 11/09/2022 20:36

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:34

Obviously , we don’t know how the OPs company works their annual leave.

At my place if we work a bank holiday, we get extra pay ( time and a half) and a day off in lieu.

If we don’t work it, we’re off for the day and get paid as normal.

The queens funeral is declared a bank holiday but it’s down to employers if they close or not.

If they close- you’d get paid and not lose anything. But you’re off for the day, it’s an extra day.

If they stay open- then you’d just go to work as normal.

I can’t see how anyone would lose anything. If the Queen didn’t pass away recently , then we wouldn’t have the additional bank holiday in the first place.

Sorry if I’m missing something…

You're not reading any of the posts explaining that the OP is not gaining an extra day off but is losing a day of her existing annual leave to a bank holiday she wouldn't have chosen to have off

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:36

Trytoavoidthebastardbus · 11/09/2022 20:30

I have no leave left - so it’ll be interesting so see what happens for me - perhaps it will be unpaid - joy!

If they make you take the day off and not get paid , I understand what you’re saying and that’s annoying. But it’s a rather extraordinary circumstance. But I understand how losing a days pay is difficult.

Sporty2022 · 11/09/2022 20:39

dementedpixie · 11/09/2022 20:36

You're not reading any of the posts explaining that the OP is not gaining an extra day off but is losing a day of her existing annual leave to a bank holiday she wouldn't have chosen to have off

My apologies I understand now. Sorry OP. Hopefully most employers wouldn’t penalise people for this- but I get that depends on how the company operates.
Really sorry OP- I mis understood your question.

Tangled123 · 11/09/2022 20:44

There’s a couple of people in my former workplace who have already used all their annual entitlement for the year. I expect that employer to close for the funeral, so they’ll probably be unpaid (or paid, but they’ll lose pay at Christmas instead).

I started my current job just after the jubilee so not sure if they opened then or not. I think they did. Hoping they open this time as I’m already off the Thursday and Friday before it and want to spread my days off out more.

Newnameoldme2022 · 11/09/2022 21:07

Seems crazy that your brother can see first hand how this will negatively effect your personal circumstances but still feels like doing it to his own employees.

Ottersmith · 11/09/2022 21:20

No it's a Bank Holiday so it's supposed to be extra. If your boss is screwing you over then stop complaining to us about it, join a union, and stand up for your rights. Stop worrying about employers. They should factor this stuff into their budgets and it's been proven they can get just as much productivity out of staff working a 4 day week anyway. They just won't let staff do that because they are snydy fuckers.

justusandmoo · 11/09/2022 21:29

Shreik · 11/09/2022 18:25

I think most employers are, or it will cost them millions of pounds to just give everyone a day off won't it? I can't work,no

It's a bank holiday. They can't make you take leave! That's the whole point of a BH x

dementedpixie · 11/09/2022 21:34

justusandmoo · 11/09/2022 21:29

It's a bank holiday. They can't make you take leave! That's the whole point of a BH x

Yes they can if your bank holidays are incorporated into your annual leave entitlement. When there is a bank holiday that you are due to work a day is deducted from your entitlement leaving you with fewer days to choose for yourself

Trytoavoidthebastardbus · 11/09/2022 21:47

There’ll be another one for the coronation no doubt too - just hope that’s not until my holiday entitlement rolls back around 🤪

StatisticallyChallenged · 11/09/2022 22:25

Newnameoldme2022 · 11/09/2022 21:07

Seems crazy that your brother can see first hand how this will negatively effect your personal circumstances but still feels like doing it to his own employees.

Many small businesses are struggling - maybe he simply can't afford to have a day where he has to pay his usual staffing costs with zero income. It's not like he's had time to build it in to his cashflow plans.

Sswhinesthebest · 11/09/2022 22:30

It’s not right if you are made to take the day off. You should be able to work if they aren’t giving you it. Challenge them.

ponyclub1980 · 13/09/2022 20:28

Im in hr - Our annual leave works the same for part time staff in that the 8 bank holiday days are added to their pro-rata holiday allowance so any bank holidays they do take off hav to come out their total annual leave. However with Mondays additional day for the queens funeral there are now 9 bank holiday days to add to each staffs annual allowance. Therefore u will not be using up one of ur existing annual leave days but the extra 9th one if u see what I mean so should not effect overall entitlement. I hope this makes sense.

StatisticallyChallenged · 14/09/2022 07:58

ponyclub1980 · 13/09/2022 20:28

Im in hr - Our annual leave works the same for part time staff in that the 8 bank holiday days are added to their pro-rata holiday allowance so any bank holidays they do take off hav to come out their total annual leave. However with Mondays additional day for the queens funeral there are now 9 bank holiday days to add to each staffs annual allowance. Therefore u will not be using up one of ur existing annual leave days but the extra 9th one if u see what I mean so should not effect overall entitlement. I hope this makes sense.

That's only correct if her employer gives an extra bank holiday, which is contract dependent. It's not a pt vs ft issue but one of how the contract is written. Lots of companies are not giving an extra day of leave.

AclowncalledAlice · 14/09/2022 09:25

I get it OP. My holiday entitlement is 28 days INC Bank Holidays ( this year was 29 to include the Jubilee weekend). All my holiday has been booked up until Christmas, now I have to decide which break I need to cut short due to the extra day off on Monday.

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