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AIBU .. to work on 19 September?

265 replies

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/09/2022 17:57

It's the first day back at work for me and the first day of freshers week. Of course the student activity planned for the day will not take place but I'd got several meetings planned with colleagues and student ambassadors as well as a couple of employers. These meetings will affect what we do in the rest of the week.

It's not about not showing respect or not caring about the queen and nothing whatsoever to do with the social side of university or drinking activities. Yes we can rearrange some things. But it's going to be rather awkward and have a knock on effect on the following week when the returners come back.

If the others are amenable - and I'm aware they might not be - I want to have the meetings, probably on Zoom.

AIBU?

OP posts:
notimagain · 10/09/2022 21:57

moneybeingwasted · 10/09/2022 19:51

I am in a profession where I have always had to work when others haven’t!
From a purely selfish point of view I hope that airline employees work on Monday 19th ..really need my holiday …and yes I am spewing that I will be at an airport whilst her majesty is put to rest !

The airline job for crew/essential ground staff is potentially 24/7/365....just as in your profession airline crew and many ground staff are expected to work when other don't.

Rosters for September at most airlines will probably have been published a while back and people will still be expected to work their rosters, the employers are not at this stage going to go around saying "anybody who wants it can have the 19th off".

That BH will probably be added to an individuals entitlement for later in the leave year.

TimeToGoUpAGear · 10/09/2022 22:01

YABVU

People will feel under indirect pressure to say yes.

bluechameleon · 10/09/2022 22:02

I'm in education too and would be pretty pissed off if a colleague suggested I should spend my bank holiday meeting with them. Don't put people in that position.

JenniferBarkley · 10/09/2022 22:05

If you absolutely have to, I would send emails along the lines of "Hi Jane, I'll be rescheduling my meetings on 19 September. I'll still be working that day, so if you would prefer not to postpone that's fine with me."

I really really wouldn't though.

CapMarvel · 10/09/2022 22:21

UWhatNow · 10/09/2022 21:05

Fair enough but I hope you get the point. The government is giving us a day off. Why are people so up their own arse that they want to work through it?

... because some of us don't care about the funeral?

Pretty simple.

carefullycourageous · 10/09/2022 22:24

CapMarvel · 10/09/2022 22:21

... because some of us don't care about the funeral?

Pretty simple.

That's not the point. If you work in an organisation that shuts for BHs, you are a twat for asking colleagues to work on those days. You can work on your own stuff if you want of course, but the fact of the matter is the nation has decided it is a BH, the organisation decides what the organisation is doing, and you as an individual have to lump it.

Abraxan · 10/09/2022 22:41

I'm on holiday.

If the meetings are so important to,you, do the 'quick zoom' meetings in Friday, during your booked day off.

Yanbu to work in the bank holiday.
But Yabu to ask others to do so.

I don't think you should even be asking them, let alone there being any expectation to do so.

SweetSakura · 10/09/2022 22:41

If you can send work emails from your holiday then surely you can also zoom?

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/09/2022 22:45

PMAmostofthetime · 10/09/2022 21:05

@ImJustMadAboutSaffron YANBU to work that day but YABU expecting others to work. You need to consider if the people your meeting with will want to work.

Did you read my original post? Nowhere did I say I expected anyone to work.

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rocketfromthecrypt · 10/09/2022 22:47

You've said you want to go ahead with meetings. Unless those meetings are you talking to yourself, you are expecting others to work.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/09/2022 22:52

MedSchoolRat · 10/09/2022 21:17

I get it, OP !! Don't think you are being U.

I even fully understand the Zoom / VPN thing (yes I also work for a Uni).

Rescheduling is going to be such a headache across multiple organisations, and even if all attendees are within your Uni you probably can't see full diaries, or colleagues don't keep their diaries up to date anyway, so you truly can't tell what alternative times would be possible. And the rest or your week / their week will be chocka with other meetings.

Given you are NOT their boss there is no coercion or power imbalance.

I fear you're just going to have to muddle thru, consider each meeting individually how to reschedule or whether it's so very useful to have it on original date that you want to try asking for that.

Halleluia.

I'm on holiday until next Saturday with just my phone. No laptop or other work resources. It's not possible to see documentation, schedules, other people's calendars, even phone numbers (given they're not in the office or all part of my institution) and other things we'd need to refer to on my phone. They're on a work Google drive accessible on a VPN.

I've been accused of "not giving a s* about the queen" too. This place is totally nuts sometimes.

OP posts:
ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 10/09/2022 22:53

rocketfromthecrypt · 10/09/2022 22:47

You've said you want to go ahead with meetings. Unless those meetings are you talking to yourself, you are expecting others to work.

What I actually said was:

If the others are amenable - and I'm aware they might not be - I want to have the meetings, probably on Zoom.

OP posts:
RichardMarxisinnocent · 10/09/2022 22:55

Cornettoninja · 10/09/2022 18:38

Of course it will, why wouldn’t you think it would?

Anyone working in a role that can’t stop will get the equivalent added to their statutory holiday.

You'd think that, but we didn't get the equivalent added to our leave allowance for the jubilee in 2012 or William and Katie's wedding. We also still had to have some staff working those days (whereas in my department we don't work on "normal" bank holidays). Those who took the day off had to take it out of their usual leave allowance.

We did get an extra day added to our leave to allow for the Diamond Jubilee, but I have no idea if that will happen for this.

MissingNashville · 10/09/2022 22:55

If it’s that important, all the others will realise and will be in touch on Tuesday.

Belledan1 · 10/09/2022 23:02

I have 3 meetings on Monday. Know 2 will be cancelled but the other 1 colleague and I are going to still have it by teams as we need to sort something out. Only be an hour. DH will be at work and teenage DC so I think I will do a few hours work without no interruptions and catch up on admin.

FairyHannie · 10/09/2022 23:05

I want to watch the funeral so therefore it will be a non-working day for me........for people that don't and want to work then do it....I don't think there should be any judgement either way. It is very short notice for some people to change their plans and they should do what they feel.

Snowiscold · 10/09/2022 23:06

I would like to watch the funeral but I won’t be able to, as I’ll be at work.

freckles20 · 10/09/2022 23:54

My friend is a hospital consultant in paediatrics. She runs two clinics on Mondays. Waiting lists are enormous and she works evenings and weekends to try to reduce the backlog.

She decided that she wanted her clinics to go ahead as planned on Monday 19th so her and her students have begun calling the parents of children with appts on that day to let them know that the appointments will go ahead.

4 sets of parents have already complained- they don't want up attend as it is now a bank holiday and they expect an alternative appt to be conjured up over the following few days instead!

FFS people!

LuftBalloons · 11/09/2022 03:41

YANBU @ImJustMadAboutSaffron

I’m in much the same situation. Meetings that are necessary and can’t really be rescheduled. But I’ve been told my university will be closed.

At least I’ll get paid for the day anyway. There will be many people who will lose a day’s pay.

It’s a pretty thoughtless gesture, frankly.

LuftBalloons · 11/09/2022 03:48

Iliveonahill · 10/09/2022 19:06

My son works in hospitality in a hotel. He won’t get the day off. I think people forget how privileged those of us who work in those organisations like schools etc are to just get the day off with no issues at all. Ambulance staff, nurses, Tesco staff, prison wardens, pub staff, restaurants will have no say as to whether they physically get that day off or not.

Exactly.

And it’s so inconvenient because the BH has been called at such short notice. That’s adding a lot of extra work to many people’s workloads.

LuftBalloons · 11/09/2022 03:51

The OP is in a job where a “day off” isn’t really a holiday, because there’s no corresponding day’s reduction in workload.

The same amount of work has to be done, but in 4 days rather than 5.

mycatisannoying · 11/09/2022 03:54

Absolutely fine!

Andromachehadabadday · 11/09/2022 04:02

LuftBalloons · 11/09/2022 03:51

The OP is in a job where a “day off” isn’t really a holiday, because there’s no corresponding day’s reduction in workload.

The same amount of work has to be done, but in 4 days rather than 5.

Neither are me and my teams. In a 4 day week, we do the same amount of work as a 5 day week.

I still wouldn’t ask them if they could do a couple of quick jobs on a bank holiday.

Andromachehadabadday · 11/09/2022 04:07

MedSchoolRat · 10/09/2022 21:17

I get it, OP !! Don't think you are being U.

I even fully understand the Zoom / VPN thing (yes I also work for a Uni).

Rescheduling is going to be such a headache across multiple organisations, and even if all attendees are within your Uni you probably can't see full diaries, or colleagues don't keep their diaries up to date anyway, so you truly can't tell what alternative times would be possible. And the rest or your week / their week will be chocka with other meetings.

Given you are NOT their boss there is no coercion or power imbalance.

I fear you're just going to have to muddle thru, consider each meeting individually how to reschedule or whether it's so very useful to have it on original date that you want to try asking for that.

Of course there’s still a power imbalance. you don’t have to directly employ someone, for there to be a power imbalance.

MinnieMountain · 11/09/2022 06:15

I work in conveyancing. It’s going to be a pain for clients who have already exchanged to complete that day.