How do you justify the royals ?

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So their ancestors were essentially the biggest bullies and managed to get what they could and have now passed it on.

They're people, just like us, but get to 'rule' over us.

How do you justify this ? It's just so wrong and outdated. Please tell me your reasons why you Support this, I am genuinely interested in whether I can change my mind about it all.

Ah… but would that poll outcome be different if it asked about support for “God AND Monarchy”?

Arguably you can’t have a monarch without God because the monarchy exists on the premise that its by divine appointment. Defender of the faith, remember.

Doesn’t matter if people want the monarchy. If the people want the monarchy but not God (see latest census figures) then there’s a disconnect and God may have an issue with that…

There’s loads about the importance of monarchy remembering their place as servants of God in the bible, I think. But people forget this…

Many are the plans in a man's heart, but it is the LORD's purpose that prevails.

THIS and try googling 'Constitutional Monarchy'. It brings great political stability while essentially being 'above politics'.

We are not the only European country to have this form of Government (The Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden etc) although they may have PR systems for voting in the politicians whereas ours has only FPTP for the UK Parliament.

I agree.
The monarchy, it’s traditions, ceremonies, castles and treasures is a massive draw for other Heads of State, international businesses, and tourists. Britain is kept in the world media through its royals, most recently (and sadly) demonstrated by the heartfelt messages of support and praise for our Queen from Heads of State around the World.

Royals work with government departments to promote this country, their involvement adds a glamour and interest that would otherwise be absent.

The royals are also patrons of innumerable charities, and again their presence acts as a huge draw and publicity for a wealth of good causes.

How else would we acknowledge people who have contributed to public life if not through the honours system and the garden parties? Who would open new buildings, visit schools, hospitals etc. One single Head of State could never undertake so many visits.

I come from country where people can vote for a president and... It's not any better I like to royal thingy more!

The royals are also patrons of innumerable charities, and again their presence acts as a huge draw and publicity for a wealth of good causes.

No they don't. Read the links. And FFS other countries manage to honour outstanding citizens without paying a fortune to keep one unimaginably wealthy family in place.

Question : how much would it cost to keep a president? What lifestyle do you think they would have?

Love these posts. Funny how these sort of question are never directed at king Felipe of Spain or Pince of Monaco or any other Royals in the world for that matter. Always at the Royal family in England.
If you don't like it turn your attention away or leave the country until after the funeral!

No reason they shouldn't live relatively cheaply like the Uruguayan president.

Also why is your question directed at the Royal family and not the many public school government that are dictating the laws in the country, many of which have had an equal privilege background to that of the Royal family!

Well most don't.

Because the government is elected 🙄

Yep, no other country's Royal family gets berated like ours by the Anti Royalists! Indeed, no other country gets quite the same bashing from the lefties and the anti-Royalists like the UK (especially England.) It's just incredibly cool and trendy and 'right-on' to bash and berate the British, especially the English.

And the tragic thing is that some people who do it are English themselves. They're the same ones who berate and bash any Prime Minister that's in power (like they could do a better job,) post constant anti Royal shit, call people who voted for Brexit 'thick racist gammon,' call God 'the sky fairy' and post threads asking 'why do people vote Tory?' with a headtilting 'what does it meeeeeean?' type of attitude... (You know the type. )

They love to drone on about how Britain is a 'fucking shithole,' and there's nothing 'great' about it. Well fucking leave then. See if you can find anywhere any better than this, go on. GO. I'll help you pack!

I love my country, and I love my Royal family. I think the Royal family is one of the best things about the UK. Anyone who dislikes the Royals (and also dislikes the UK,) can kiss my fat hairy ass. And as I said, you are free to leave the UK, and see if you find life better in any other country.

I'm ok, I'm French 😏

In the 20th and 21st Centuries, it has been understood that there is no literal link between the Monarchy and God.

Scratch that....it's long been established that Parliament is Supreme and has removed a Monarch before. It can do so again if a Monarch encroaches upon Parliament's power.

The Restoration of the Monarchy was a compromise of sorts where it was made very clear to Monarchs from then on that God doesn't keep them in their position.

As the representative democratic seat of power, Parliament is what keeps the Monarch on the throne.

This is how it's been understood ever since.

We can have a Monarchy without God. We have for since the Enlightenment, IIRC. Any mention of "by the grace of God" is just part of historical tradition and not to be taken literally.

I don't justify them.
A royal family is an anachronism. It's just a family of unjustifiably privileged people. Completely ridiculous in a so called democracy we have an unelected family who are given jobs for life and get to live in eye watering luxury just because they were born or married into this family.
They would never survive in a normal workplace, with average pay or working hours.
Its scary how close we were to having Andrew as King!
This is a family of independently wealthy multi millionaires, yet despite that they still want more money from the taxpayer?The Queen had to be forced to pay taxes. Her mother died leaving huge debts due to her extravagance.
Having been in apprenticeship for 70 years Charles has now inherited a job. William has been doing the same apprenticeship for about 40 years for the same job! Kate does little beyond parading around in another new outfit -or shock horror, makes sure the press are briefed if she wears one twice-.

For anybody suggesting those who are against having a monarchy should leave the country - maybe you'd like to trot off to somewhere else with the royals and personally support their extravagances. Do remember though, they'd not welcome you into their home(s), let you share their transport or even welcome you speaking to them without invitation. You know them from a distance, they don't know you.

We can have an elected President like the Republic of Ireland, at least we wont have to keep their parents, spouses, children, brothers and sisters, cousins, aunts and uncles in luxury too!

Well bonjour belle! Is it just me or just that emoji (in your post,) look French?!

Yep, no other country's Royal family gets berated like ours by the Anti Royalists!

really? No other country complains about their royal family…at all

In some ways they were the soap opera of days before TV
. EastEnders etc.

I remember when the queen children divorced it made my mum feel better about her own children divorcing.
I know when I had a sudden and tragic death to bear.....I found comfort in the fact no wealth cam protect us from human life and pain.

I found what the Prince's have said a comfort .

It's ironically their imperfections are What we take comfort in

Except that the monarch is also Head of the Church (of England) and holds the title as Defender of the Faith.

If what you say is true though, that explains why the British royal family seem to be so cautious of the Kohinoor diamond and its legendary curse. “Only God or a woman can wear it with impunity”. The British royal family have only ever given the gem to a woman because of the fabled curse. It suggests they’re not willing to risk what God might do…

“We can have a Monarchy without God.”

There’s something about this in the OT before King David is appointed. God expresses concern that monarchy becomes idolatry and the people forget their covenant is actually with God, not a fellow mortal claiming to be ‘special’.

God has always been symbolic, rarely literal. I’d argue the symbolic connection remains between God and monarchy.

The symbolism of the Crown is that the monarch is saying they’re Head of State, but that God is above them and their Head. Divine appointment etc.

Monarchy without God is harder to justify. Plus, you risk God’s wrath (probably been brewing since the Enlightenment if that’s when people started to think God didn’t need to be involved in monarchy…).

Except that the monarch is also Head of the Church (of England) and holds the title as Defender of the Faith

Although the Faith Henry VIII was defending was the Roman Catholic faith, and the title was awarded by the Pope.