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Energy Bills capped at £2500 a year - for the average household (subject to usage)

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BecauseICan22 · 08/09/2022 11:47

Truss has just announced this.

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GreenLunchBox · 08/09/2022 11:55

Hydrangeatea · 08/09/2022 11:50

Does anyone know what this equates to in price per kwh for both gas and electric? I can have a guess based on today's cap at 1,971 but wondered if there was an official number somewhere?

Here's what the average household uses, so you can work it out from that.

Energy Bills capped at £2500 a year - for the average household (subject to usage)
SleeplessInEngland · 08/09/2022 11:55

Most people will be relieved, and rightly so, but the fun part will come in the next few weeks when the chancellor starts letting us in on how this is being paid for.

Hydrangeatea · 08/09/2022 11:56

I am guessing it to be around 25% more than the current cap which would take my estimated monthly from 377 a month to 471 a month from October (unless I can get my usage down which I am working on!).

BorgQueen · 08/09/2022 11:56

They can’t just publish a single figure because regional rates vary slightly.

gatehouseoffleet · 08/09/2022 11:57

So the current cap is £1900 so the price will go up by about 25% on today's prices? Is that a fair assessment?

As opposed to doubling in October?

I was paying £150 odd a month for both fuels and have just increased my monthly DD to £200 so if I use the same as last year I should be about covered.

gatehouseoffleet · 08/09/2022 11:57

Ha cross posted with Hydrangeatea

Hydrangeatea · 08/09/2022 11:58

gatehouseoffleet · 08/09/2022 11:57

So the current cap is £1900 so the price will go up by about 25% on today's prices? Is that a fair assessment?

As opposed to doubling in October?

I was paying £150 odd a month for both fuels and have just increased my monthly DD to £200 so if I use the same as last year I should be about covered.

Yup that's about how I see it

Narcheska · 08/09/2022 11:58

twordle · 08/09/2022 11:52

Just posted this in separate thread - the comms around this are indeed awful. It's so unclear what it means in real terms.

Can anybody who understands energy billing/ govmt announcements please clarify how this 'capping' just announced works? Our monthly energy bills are around £500 currently.. does that mean once we've reached 5 months of such bills we don't pay anymore?! I mean great if that's so but surely not! Thanks

🤦🏻‍♀️ No. It’s a cap on how much they can charge per unit of energy. Same as it’s always been. The 2.5k figure is just based on what the average U.K. household will use at the new cap rate. If you use more you’ll pay more

nachoavocado · 08/09/2022 11:58

I need unit prices to work out if I need to exit my fixed price contract.

Why can't they just announce that it the second line

BeyondsEnergyObsession · 08/09/2022 11:59

Apparently ofgem's "typical household" is 2.4 people. I've tried to find this on Ofgem's site, but can only find breakdowns of the various types of average household, not one overall average.

Pointing this out as I misread it first time I saw it and thought it was 2.4 children (as in, the average amount of children). Weird that they are both 2.4 Confused

dementedpixie · 08/09/2022 11:59

BorgQueen · 08/09/2022 11:56

They can’t just publish a single figure because regional rates vary slightly.

They usually publish average figures and then the regional variations are around that figure. E.g. the figures for October were going to be as follows

Energy Bills capped at £2500 a year - for the average household (subject to usage)
BonesOfWhatYouBelieve · 08/09/2022 12:00

twordle · 08/09/2022 11:52

Just posted this in separate thread - the comms around this are indeed awful. It's so unclear what it means in real terms.

Can anybody who understands energy billing/ govmt announcements please clarify how this 'capping' just announced works? Our monthly energy bills are around £500 currently.. does that mean once we've reached 5 months of such bills we don't pay anymore?! I mean great if that's so but surely not! Thanks

The unit price will be capped so that "average" energy usage will cost £2,500 a year. If you use more than the average, you'll pay more.

Someone on another thread explained it better than I can by saying imagine it's apples, and they've capped the price of apples at £1 an apple. If you use more apples, you'll pay more in total. But you won't pay more than £1 an apple. It's absolutely not that you'll get to £2,500 of bills and then it's free.

HumourReplacementTherapy · 08/09/2022 12:00

Absolutely dreadful how they have framed this.
People are going to be so confused.

SleeplessInEngland · 08/09/2022 12:00

Yes, cap is a dreadful misnomer and it's going to result in a lot of angry/desperate people when the bills finally arrive.

TeenTraumaTrials · 08/09/2022 12:02

So if it's a 25% increase that would be about 34p for electricity and 9p for gas?

Lansonmaid · 08/09/2022 12:02

Mogs43 · 08/09/2022 11:54

I am sure oil and gas companies are thrilled to be given so much money from the tax payer! They should have to pay towards it through a windfall tax - it feels wrong to burden future generations.

I am also unsure how they can be confident prices will fall in two years …

Two years takes us up to the next election.....very convenient timing don't you think?

gatehouseoffleet · 08/09/2022 12:03

I was paying £150 odd a month for both fuels and have just increased my monthly DD to £200 so if I use the same as last year I should be about covered

although I thought the price cap was £1900 this time last year and it appears it wasn't, so I will probably still need to increase my DD more or use less or both.

This is a useful explainer: twitter.com/MartinSLewis/status/1567829040102342656

Littlemisspawpatrol · 08/09/2022 12:04

Can someone explain the economics of this to me please? When it says, funded by the tax payer, does this mean that we can only be charged (for example) 30p per kwh, but if the wholesale price plus profit is 50p per khw then the tax payer pays the difference for the amount the country actually uses?

ickky · 08/09/2022 12:04

From Martin Lewis

Energy Bills capped at £2500 a year - for the average household (subject to usage)
Thebestwaytoscareatory · 08/09/2022 12:04

She's literally just admitted that it's been a failure of the Tory government policy for the last decade that has led us to be in this situation, yet in the same breathe now claims they'll magically be able to fix it all. Why do so many still fall for this shit every time???

SleeplessInEngland · 08/09/2022 12:05

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 08/09/2022 12:04

She's literally just admitted that it's been a failure of the Tory government policy for the last decade that has led us to be in this situation, yet in the same breathe now claims they'll magically be able to fix it all. Why do so many still fall for this shit every time???

The tories don't need opposition anymore. They can just blame the last lot even when they were the last lot. It's genius, really.

PremiumPiglet · 08/09/2022 12:05

Are will still getting the £400?
My bills (not fixed) are currently only £60 a month. The £400 plus the £150? already received were going to be. big chunk a whole year.

Not worried for me but lots of my neighbours are on very low incomes and a price cap of £2500 helps much less than the previous measures.

PeloFondo · 08/09/2022 12:05

It's so misleading

From an article

"This guarantee, which includes a temporary suspension of green levies, means that from 1 October a typical household will pay no more than £2,500 per year for each of the next two years while we get the energy market back on track.

Whammyyammy · 08/09/2022 12:09

GreenLunchBox · 08/09/2022 11:50

Shocker. What is the point of this announcement when it's been leaked and discussed all week anyway Confused

Unbelievable that she wants to protect the profiteering companies

I can see why though. Without businesses (current and new), there will.be a lot less jobs, meaning more financial strain on families and the already struggling welfare system as it is

Littlemisspawpatrol · 08/09/2022 12:10

I don't know why they can't just say that the unit price is capped.

People on water caps means that they can't be charged over X amount even if they use more than X worth, so it could confuse those people, and others.

For those of us who fixed, will it be October 1st we can move back onto the standard variable, or can we do it now?

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