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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is this lyric not suitable for radio 1?

118 replies

SkygardenTower · 06/09/2022 08:07

Listening to Radio 1 yesterday around 8:20, Greg James show, lots of listeners calling in saying it was first day of the new school year.

Little Nas X - industry baby
And these girls know that I'm nasty (mm)
I sent her back to her boyfriend
With my handprint on her *

The blanked out part is ass cheek.

Personally, I don’t think this is an appropriate lyric ever, it normalises sexual domestic violence. But on Radio 1 during the school run time is totally not ok, they know young children listen to the show. Yes parents can switch it off, but by the time you have realised it is inappropriate the lyric has been sung.

So AIBU?

You are bing unreasonable: it is just a song
You are NOT being unreasonable: inappropriate lyric for that time and show

OP posts:
midgetastic · 06/09/2022 11:01

Not sure I can comment since you have posted one section of lyric

We don't therefore know if the song is critical of the abuser

Like "he said xxx" next line " that shows a reallly evil nasty person "

Context missing

nutellachurro · 06/09/2022 11:03

midgetastic · 06/09/2022 11:01

Not sure I can comment since you have posted one section of lyric

We don't therefore know if the song is critical of the abuser

Like "he said xxx" next line " that shows a reallly evil nasty person "

Context missing

Bloody hell

10HailMarys · 06/09/2022 11:05

OK, the more I read this thread the more I can't stay quiet about this.

I'm a survivor of domestic violence and sexual assault.

Equating a song lyric about spanking or 'a handprint on the ass cheek' with DV and sexual violence are really starting to piss me off now. The two things are worlds apart and conflating them is harmful and insulting and potentially incredibly shaming to DV victims.

So, congratulations. With your outrage over a pop song, you've succeeded in making an actual DV survivor - one of the very people you're supposedly so concerned about - feel like shit.

Well done. Give yourselves a pat on the back.

Leadingtostories · 06/09/2022 11:07

The more we hear this kind of crap the more it is normalised within society. I'd say complain, complain, complain (channelling Liz 'pork markets' Truss there).

IceStationZebra · 06/09/2022 11:10

Your children should not be listening to Radio 1 if this is inappropriate

SavoirFlair · 06/09/2022 11:10

The pearl clutching and bizarre racism on this thread is astounding.

This is one of the more innocuous lyrics on the radio at the moment and @SkygardenTower you choose to pick on this?!

and then the commentators saying “if he was white”…. Jack Harlow IS white.

I mean, I just despair.

the guy is rapping about consensual sex. If you don’t like the aspect of that kind of sex; then good luck to you and I’m sure your sex lives are fulfilling etc.

but this is not a problem for morning radio. This is tame, fun, vanilla.

Your kids are listening to Migos and Young Thug, Russ Millions, Buni and Kwengface. They are talking about shanking and splashing (neither are sexual), loving the bunda , peng tings etc.. they are forwarding songs via WhatsApp and you don’t know shit about it.

So, good luck with policing the mainstream radio station that they never bother getting their music from.

Notimeforaname · 06/09/2022 11:11

Domestic violence 🤣🤣 get a grip. It's a song. The line is about spanking an ass!

midgetastic · 06/09/2022 11:14

Hitting people is violence no matter where on the body the hitting occurs

SavoirFlair · 06/09/2022 11:16

midgetastic · 06/09/2022 11:14

Hitting people is violence no matter where on the body the hitting occurs

So what’s your view of women like me @midgetastic who like this to happen and ask for our partner to safely do this to them? Yes it’s technically violence; but is all “violence” unsolicited or inappropriate?

Because some disgusting subhuman men hit women , does this mean that if a man jokingly cites an example of a consensual sex act in his lyric, it should be automatically banned because it is clearly a gateway drug to DV?

give me strength

GreenManalishi · 06/09/2022 11:17

This is the sign you need to migrate over to Radio 2, this is how it starts!

You could be humming along to Texas with the flick of a switch and not have to worry about who's singing about who's smacking who's arse and why.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 06/09/2022 11:19

NightmareSlashDelightful · 06/09/2022 08:28

Hot in Herre [sic] is Nelly, not R Kelly.

I don’t see that lyric as being about sexual violence, personally. In the narrative of the song, a woman is cheating on her boyfriend with Jack Harlow (who raps the handprint bit) and this line is sort of euphemism for him making sure the guy finds out that his girlfriend is cheating on him.

Songs have always been vehicles for more adult themes. Golden Brown (The Stranglers) is about heroin, as is Enjoy the Silence (Depeche Mode). Semisonic’s Secret Smile is about being able to give a woman an orgasm. All My Life (Foo Fighters) is about oral sex. And More Than Words by Extreme is about a bloke trying to persuade his girlfriend to suck him off.

Many of these songs will have been played on drive time or breakfast shows all over the world, and have been for years.

You’re so cool😎

porkmarkets · 06/09/2022 11:20

GreenManalishi · 06/09/2022 11:17

This is the sign you need to migrate over to Radio 2, this is how it starts!

You could be humming along to Texas with the flick of a switch and not have to worry about who's singing about who's smacking who's arse and why.

Yes this is what I was going to say GrinGrin

NightmareSlashDelightful · 06/09/2022 11:21

GreenManalishi · 06/09/2022 11:17

This is the sign you need to migrate over to Radio 2, this is how it starts!

You could be humming along to Texas with the flick of a switch and not have to worry about who's singing about who's smacking who's arse and why.

Indeed. Although Inner Smile (Texas) is also about having all of the orgasms so OP might want to prep herself for that.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/09/2022 11:26

We need to go back to the wholesome songs of days gone by. Like a Virgin, My Dingaling, Let's Talk About Sex etc.
Them were more innocent days.😉

ChipsRoastOrBoiled · 06/09/2022 11:27

Lyrics like that are inappropriate full stop. As is the sexualisation of women and girls in the music industry.

nutellachurro · 06/09/2022 11:29

midgetastic · 06/09/2022 11:14

Hitting people is violence no matter where on the body the hitting occurs

By definition a light spanking during sex isn't violence

Since you seem to struggle - "The intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, that either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment or deprivation"

A mark on your bum isn't an injury

Pinkdelight3 · 06/09/2022 11:30

Other sources of music are available. If you don't like it, it's not for you, switch channels or listen to streamed music.

Electricstar · 06/09/2022 11:33

I don’t have children yet but I do agree a lot of songs these days are inappropriate (especially the music videos). I would suggest listening to Heart as their songs are more child friendly or a playlist.

It doesn’t bother me being 27 year old woman but I can see your point a lot of popular music right now is sexualised (personally do not think the song you said about hints DV at all but it is about sex) like the above comments say there is a song by Nicki M about licking riding and sliding etc lol

EmmiJay · 06/09/2022 11:36

InApPrOpRiAtE🤣 Just turn it off!

Pinkdelight3 · 06/09/2022 11:36

"These days"?? Guess what George Formby's 'With My Little Stick of Blackpool Rock' is about! Twas ever thus, and if younger people's music wasn't upsetting older people, there'd probably be something really wrong with it.

mountainsunsets · 06/09/2022 11:41

I wonder how many of the posters moaning about inappropriate language on the radio laughed at their parents for doing exactly the same thing 20-30 years ago Wink

SavoirFlair · 06/09/2022 11:45

ChipsRoastOrBoiled · 06/09/2022 11:27

Lyrics like that are inappropriate full stop. As is the sexualisation of women and girls in the music industry.

Yeah because when sexualisation of young girls and women happens, let’s blame the majority Afro-American rap music industry…

not TikTok
not Instagram
not influencers
not OnlyFans

etc…

  • and yes before folk start , I know Jack Harlow (speaker of the ‘offensive’ lyric) is white
ErrolTheDragon · 06/09/2022 11:56

Pinkdelight3 · 06/09/2022 11:36

"These days"?? Guess what George Formby's 'With My Little Stick of Blackpool Rock' is about! Twas ever thus, and if younger people's music wasn't upsetting older people, there'd probably be something really wrong with it.

The radio - including R4 and doubtless before that - has always had some very 'rude' content, but as in this case, wrapped up in double entendre and humour.

I could never understand when I was a kid why Chuck Berry's 'My Ding-a-ling' was banned. I understood the joke, but the words weren't explicit and it wasn't in any way violent or nasty. Similar in kind to Humph on I'm Sorry I haven't a Clue.

Hadjab · 06/09/2022 11:56

SavoirFlair · 06/09/2022 11:10

The pearl clutching and bizarre racism on this thread is astounding.

This is one of the more innocuous lyrics on the radio at the moment and @SkygardenTower you choose to pick on this?!

and then the commentators saying “if he was white”…. Jack Harlow IS white.

I mean, I just despair.

the guy is rapping about consensual sex. If you don’t like the aspect of that kind of sex; then good luck to you and I’m sure your sex lives are fulfilling etc.

but this is not a problem for morning radio. This is tame, fun, vanilla.

Your kids are listening to Migos and Young Thug, Russ Millions, Buni and Kwengface. They are talking about shanking and splashing (neither are sexual), loving the bunda , peng tings etc.. they are forwarding songs via WhatsApp and you don’t know shit about it.

So, good luck with policing the mainstream radio station that they never bother getting their music from.

Nailed it!

misssunshine4040 · 06/09/2022 11:58

User135644 · 06/09/2022 08:42

Why do rappers get away with saying whatever they want, yet anyone else gets cancelled?

Rap is digusting.

? It is not disgusting, just because it doesn't appeal to you.