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AIBU?

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To be shocked and appalled by music video by rapper "AarDee" (and also shocked that there doesn't seem to be any backlash that I can find?

137 replies

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:04

OK, so my world would never normally intersect with the world of heavy UK teen rap (or whatever the correct name is for the genre), but I was with my DS at a barber shop today, a trendy one where they show the latest music videos, and while his hair was being cut I happened to see the video to a song called Hello Mate by this guy AarDee (Googling him I see he is 19 and comes from Brighton).

I am very far from prudish or pearl-clutching, was a pretty counter-culture heavy rocker in my day etc. I've seen and done a lot. I am not easily shocked and am strongly in favour of freedom of expression. But: this video has to be seen to be believed. Unless I am mistaken and I was watching some sort of elaborate piss-take, it depicts a couple (AarDee and a girl) going into a shop with a baseball bat and gaffer tape, terrorising and tying up the staff, wrecking the shop, stealing stuff including lots of booze and then retreating to a mansion to celebrate merrily with a huge pool party. The main dude "AarDee" has a constant arrogant and self-satisfied look on his face.

Now, I am sure many people would agree that this guy is probably an arrogant little twerp (irrespective of the merits of the music, which would be subjective, but which I imagine a lot of people like, given his apparent popularity). And the entertainment/music industry has always been full of arrogant twerps and worse, obviously. So that's no big deal. But this is a graphic video, presumably aimed at teens as the boy is a teen, totally glorifying crime and violence, revelling in it. I had a look around the internet for what I imagined would be multiple mentions of this angle, but all I could find was fulsome praise of the guy and his music, including this song. No-one mentioning what the video actually shows. This is just normal then?

Am I alone in thinking this is a real problem? Am I missing something here?

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BattenburgDonkey · 30/08/2022 13:07

This isn’t exactly a rare or new style of music video. Violence is also depicted loads on tv in other areas, tv shows, movies etc. YABU

Moveorstay2022 · 30/08/2022 13:09

It's Ardee

Moveorstay2022 · 30/08/2022 13:10

Arrdee*

BoviTraci · 30/08/2022 13:10

Some drill rap is awful too . Most decently brought up kids know this is not cool in any way .

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:11

Actually it's "ArrDee"! Sorry I got it wrong.

Obviously violence is depicted in art all the time, what seemed wrong here was the totally joyous way in which it was presented, by a teenager who looked incredibly pleased with himself. I accept I might BU, but I felt unhappy about it anyway...

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cherry2727 · 30/08/2022 13:13

A music video you say? Don't violent movies depict the same ? I'm no fan of rap music and it's culture for many other reasons but I think this far less an issue than others. Movies with guns, drugs , violence, killing involved sell/promote/ glorify the same story !

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:14

I just imagined there might be some critical discussion of a video aimed at teens which presents violent crime as a lavish bit of "summer fun" (that is how one webpage describes the song/video). That there wasn't is what surprises me.

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itsCORN · 30/08/2022 13:14

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:11

Actually it's "ArrDee"! Sorry I got it wrong.

Obviously violence is depicted in art all the time, what seemed wrong here was the totally joyous way in which it was presented, by a teenager who looked incredibly pleased with himself. I accept I might BU, but I felt unhappy about it anyway...

he didn’t make the video to make you happy 🙄

titchy · 30/08/2022 13:15

Wait till you watch a Quentin Tarantino film. Or quite a lot of films for that matter. And probably some Eastenders content. Loads of gratuitous violence.

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:16

I am entitled to be unhappy about things I encounter which I feel are harmful in some way...whether or not they are aimed at me.

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LadyKenya · 30/08/2022 13:17

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:11

Actually it's "ArrDee"! Sorry I got it wrong.

Obviously violence is depicted in art all the time, what seemed wrong here was the totally joyous way in which it was presented, by a teenager who looked incredibly pleased with himself. I accept I might BU, but I felt unhappy about it anyway...

At least you are willing to accept that you might be unreasonable about this.

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:17

Oh I know Tarentino's work well. It's not the same thing (in my view). This video is presented as a bit of glossy teenage fun. OK, though, clearly no-one (so far) agrees with me!

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Ithinkthatisenoughnowthanks · 30/08/2022 13:18

Didn’t Rihanna once do a video with a murder in it? Something about bitch better have my money?

PonyTime · 30/08/2022 13:18

YABU

And definitely Pearl clutching

PonyTime · 30/08/2022 13:19

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:16

I am entitled to be unhappy about things I encounter which I feel are harmful in some way...whether or not they are aimed at me.

Of course you are

Others are also entitled to think you're being unreasonable and dramatic

DucklingDaisy · 30/08/2022 13:22

I would bet a lot of money that this was posted by someone attempting to promote the artist in question by promoting moral panic media coverage.

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:22

I'm not being dramatic. I was actually really shocked, I'm not dramatising that. I have not actually done anything around it, I'm not writing "Shocked of Tunbridge Wells" letters to the newspapers or demanding censorship! I just asked MN whether I was being unreasonable, and it appears I was.

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PonyTime · 30/08/2022 13:24

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:22

I'm not being dramatic. I was actually really shocked, I'm not dramatising that. I have not actually done anything around it, I'm not writing "Shocked of Tunbridge Wells" letters to the newspapers or demanding censorship! I just asked MN whether I was being unreasonable, and it appears I was.

Your reaction is dramatic

The video is like many other music videos that have been released over the past 20+ years

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:28

Me promoting the artist? I think not! I am a middle-aged mum living in the west of Ireland with no connections whatsoever to the music industry!

I haven't watched a music video in probably 20 years (which is probably why I am obviously painfully unaware of the norms of what goes on in them!) I just happened to take DS to this trendy barber's today. I like it there because they play music videos on a big screen, but it has always been trad jazz or 70s rock in the past! Today they were playing the UK video chart. Clearly I am a dinosaur (and maybe rather happy to be one, this type of video/music I can happily do without, give me Freebird any day!). As you were!

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theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:30

Should say I haven't watched a NEW music video in 20 years. I watch old ones all the time!

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TheOriginalEmu · 30/08/2022 13:31

Nothing much shocks you and yet a very obviously stylised video is that shocking to you?

OneTC · 30/08/2022 13:32

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:14

I just imagined there might be some critical discussion of a video aimed at teens which presents violent crime as a lavish bit of "summer fun" (that is how one webpage describes the song/video). That there wasn't is what surprises me.

You definitely don't sound like a counter culture rocker now Grin

SleeplessInEngland · 30/08/2022 13:33

Sounds pretty par for the course. Never watch the Podigy's Smack My Bitch Up video from 1997, you'll have a heart attack.

PonyTime · 30/08/2022 13:33

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:28

Me promoting the artist? I think not! I am a middle-aged mum living in the west of Ireland with no connections whatsoever to the music industry!

I haven't watched a music video in probably 20 years (which is probably why I am obviously painfully unaware of the norms of what goes on in them!) I just happened to take DS to this trendy barber's today. I like it there because they play music videos on a big screen, but it has always been trad jazz or 70s rock in the past! Today they were playing the UK video chart. Clearly I am a dinosaur (and maybe rather happy to be one, this type of video/music I can happily do without, give me Freebird any day!). As you were!

So shocking to find out you're a middle aged mum

Never would have guessed it Grin

theDudesmummy · 30/08/2022 13:37

The strange thing is that I rather liked Smack My Bitch Up at the time (as a video, I didn't really care for the Prodigy's music, although I actually knew one of them). Maybe it's not "things" that have changed, it's me!

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