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To rat out these CFs

279 replies

gerbalgreen · 29/08/2022 15:28

Two family members, who I used to think were very nice, gleefully told me two years ago that they have been moving back their fence every year and have been stealing land.

But it's ok because their neighbours are elderly and haven't noticed. 😱

They live in the country side and you cannot see the neighbours house from their garden. Their neighbours land covers all three sides of their house and is a wooded area. They have tripled the size of their garden.

They were smug when they mentioned that if they used the land for a certain number of years the rightful owners couldn't take it back due to some law.

After this conversation I can't see them in the same light and now every time I meet up with them I realise they just aren't good people. I also feel so guilty knowing this and not doing anything.

I also know that either at the end of this year or some point next year the time will have passed that the neighbours can't do anything.

I am considering sending them an anonymous letter. Should I? I could find them on google maps. A big part of me doesn't want to get involved then another just wants justice to prevail.

I also live abroad. So any letter sent from my country, should the neighbours show it to said family members, would obviously be from me. I don't want this family to know how I feel as it would cause chaos with the rest of the family. I would rather make it anonymous. How would I do this? Would this give me bad or good karma?

YANBU : Write the letter
YaBU : Don't get involved

OP posts:
averageavocado · 30/08/2022 13:36

Flambola · 29/08/2022 21:52

Oh for god’s sake stop suggesting Moonpig. I work for them on CS. People like you lot make our lives so difficult and put our jobs in jeopardy. Have a thought for us poor lowly lot having to deal with shite like this, please.

"I'm sorry under current legislation I am unable to share those details with you" and reapeat

WireSkills · 30/08/2022 13:46

Use this link Map Search to search an area by map - you can click on a plot of land when you get in to the map.

Alternatively, look at the local council website and see if they have a local map based search on it. I know on ours you can zoom down to property level and the boundaries.

Our local council website uses Ordnance Survey maps and you can see the boundaries on their website (OS maps)

CannibalQueen · 30/08/2022 14:05

Phone the council?

CannibalQueen · 30/08/2022 14:05

Or email the council. Then your address could be anywhere.

Bangolads · 30/08/2022 18:00

Absolutely do it straight away. Or send me the address and I’ll do it.

Debbacat6 · 30/08/2022 18:05

Write to Land Registry and to your local council. Stress your name must be with held from the CF's
And ask your local council for the Social Worker responsible for Vulnerable Elders
This is financial abuse
Also...write to or ring Age Concern and tell them as they migh5 undertake to do this all for you

E17Stowmum · 30/08/2022 18:26

Just to support earlier comments, the law has changed. IF this is registered land, then your relatives must now apply for 'adverse possession' to the Land Registry, who then notify the neighbours.
If they've had the brass neck to do what they've done with the fence and tell you about it, have you got the guts to point this out? Just, gently, next time it comes up in conversation. No need for any subterfuge or anonymity.

PeachyPeachTrees · 30/08/2022 18:48

Just because they have loads of land doesn't mean it's OK to steal it! Thieving from vulnerable elderly people is disgusting behaviour. Glad you're going to report it.

Islandgirl68 · 30/08/2022 18:55

So shocking that they think it is OK to steal someone else's land and can't believe it coukd be legal. By the way it is not snitching, its called having morals.

Tootief · 30/08/2022 18:56

Not read the thread.
If/when they or the neighbours sell the property, the solicitors will check the land in the plan against the actual land being sold. Any discrepancies will be identified and the neighbours given the chance to challenge it eg by showing their plan.
Adverse procession isn't as straight forward as they seem to think.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/adverse-possession-of-registered-land/practice-guide-4-adverse-possession-of-registered-land

Lottle · 30/08/2022 18:59

It's incredible they can afford to keep moving their fence! We had a small section repaired recently. Cost a fortune!

Poseypops · 30/08/2022 19:04

HM Land Registry property fraud team

[email protected]

Telephone: 0300 006 7030
Monday to Friday, 8am to 5pm

Poppingmad123 · 30/08/2022 19:09

Land grabbers are definitely the lowest of low. I have neighbours who have done this & they wonder why I don’t talk to them anymore! Really disgusts me. You can send me the details, I’m happy to dob them in or call the police to report trespass.

ClottedCreamAndStrawberries · 30/08/2022 19:15

KyaClark · 29/08/2022 15:39

They won't care who sent it and Moonpig wouldn't tell them even if they asked.

There’s actually a bit on the Moonpig website that tells customers what to do if they receive an abusive card. Moonpig basically find out who the sender was through the order number and the sender can get in a lot of trouble. If Moonpig can do that then I don’t see why they can’t give out any other sort of requested info.

Solonge · 30/08/2022 19:22

I would phone the police....its definitely theft....and its an old lady who is being stolen from...shame on them....I wouldnt think twice...you could also inform the council and the mayor. We lived in France and it would be the mayor you would go to first there...I am assuming this is the UK....

DixonD · 30/08/2022 19:38

Do you know anyone living in the U.K. that could forward your letter on for you? You could email it and they can print and post.

BabyDreamers · 30/08/2022 19:39

I volunteer to send a card for you if necessary op!

Maryminx · 30/08/2022 19:46

Write to the Council and also Age Concern
you will be doing the right thing

Ladybyrd · 30/08/2022 20:03

Age Concern is a really good idea.

rhianfitz · 30/08/2022 20:03

I'll post it from Ireland

Ladybyrd · 30/08/2022 20:03

I would also happily send a note for you.

xmaswiththeinlaws · 30/08/2022 20:14

When someone new moves in, you have to check the land registry map and the fences match up so their thieving will come to light then and the fences will be moved. We have just moved and we're asked to check the new property boundaries were the same as the map for this reason.

MaggieFS · 30/08/2022 20:23

Poseypops · 30/08/2022 19:04

HM Land Registry property fraud team

[email protected]

Telephone: 0300 006 7030
Monday to Friday, 8am to 5pm

This looks like your answer.

qtpa2t · 30/08/2022 20:53

Write the letter send it in form of a moonpig card or something like that as then it won't be sent from your home country

Lizzy53 · 30/08/2022 21:18

Cowardly response Lamplighter

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