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Sexless relationship do they work l?

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ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 01:17

Been with dp almost 20 years and we love each other very much. However we have a none existent sex life. I love him so much but am not in love with him l ( and I suspect he feels the same) I feel almost too close to him for sex if that makes sense l, like I see him like my family and it feels weird. I do feel attracted to other guys ( although I am not a cheat and would never go there) we have 2 dc that were conceived on the rare occasions we did it ( birthdays). He never asks me for sex so I assume he feels the same, I walk around the house naked a lot and he never looks up or bothers. He makes negative comments about my body after kids but never compliments me so I assume he doesn't fancy me anymore but I know he loves me. He tells me he loves me and couldn't be without me and I feel the same about him but there's no spark is this ok?

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SavoirFlair · 28/08/2022 08:10

And that is fine if you're both happy enough with it.

Does OP sound happy to you?

Luredbyapomegranate · 28/08/2022 08:22

If he loves you I don’t understand why he would make negative comments about your body? Does he make other negative comments?

That apart the total lack of intimacy is striking. But it depends on whether you are really happy with it - are you?

Annieisalright · 28/08/2022 08:41

I think it can with other forms of intimacy

DH and I have been married for 10 years and still haven't consummated our relationship - that's how long it's been for us Blush all our children were born via IVF as well due to this.

But he is incredibly affectionate. We kiss, cuddle, hold hands, he will always cuddle me from behind if we are in the line at a shop etc. If we are walking through a shopping center and there is music playing we will dance together as we walk (yes we are those people - much to our childrens dismay)

I miss sex, and I can't lie that I would be happier if we had it. But I'm still incredibly in love with him to the point where I'd take our relationship as it is over not having one with the love of my life

specialsauce101 · 28/08/2022 08:53

Annieisalright · 28/08/2022 08:41

I think it can with other forms of intimacy

DH and I have been married for 10 years and still haven't consummated our relationship - that's how long it's been for us Blush all our children were born via IVF as well due to this.

But he is incredibly affectionate. We kiss, cuddle, hold hands, he will always cuddle me from behind if we are in the line at a shop etc. If we are walking through a shopping center and there is music playing we will dance together as we walk (yes we are those people - much to our childrens dismay)

I miss sex, and I can't lie that I would be happier if we had it. But I'm still incredibly in love with him to the point where I'd take our relationship as it is over not having one with the love of my life

But why?

mrsbitaly · 28/08/2022 08:58

That's not up to anybody here to tell you yes or no.

Are YOU happy? is this something YOU are content with?

Some people will say no because sex means alot to them and a way for them to feel connected but this isn't the case for everyone. You don't have to have sex to have a good marriage but this only works if you are both content with it. Have you asked your husband if he is still interested in sex?

Maggie178 · 28/08/2022 09:02

I think only you and your partner can answer the question of 'is it ok?' If you are both happy with that then great. The fact your questioning it implies that maybe you feel something is lacking.

noclothesinbed · 28/08/2022 09:05

Is this ok ? Only you can answer that question. Are you happy with a no sex relationship many people are and accept it rather than break up the family. It depends what you want

user73783 · 28/08/2022 09:11

Define "work" I guess? What are you both looking for in a marriage?

Whichwhatnow · 28/08/2022 09:12

My husband is asexual. I am not but have adjusted to it because he's the love of my life. But - he's incredibly affectionate, we're always cuddling and kissing and he tells me I'm beautiful pretty much every day.

I don't think I could deal with no sex AND no affection. Surely everyone wants to feel wanted in a relationship, even if not in a sexual sense?

Aeio · 28/08/2022 09:14

StarRug · 28/08/2022 01:52

It’s a really unhealthy set up. IME no sex or intimacy means there’s no bond or glue to keep you together and the lack of feeling desired is corrosive to your self esteem.

I’m living the same every day and I don’t feel quite complete. We’ve had sex 8 times in 7.5 years and somehow conceived 3 DC during that time! First was planned… back in the days when we had (a much healthier , but still quite shit 😂) sex life of twice a month… the second and third were total (welcome) surprises after very long gaps of no sex at all!

It hurts my heart to have a husband who is asexual/closet gay. It makes me feel ugly, even when objectively I know I’m not. Sexual intimacy feels inappropriate and I’d never consider having sex with him again. It’s like a switch inside me turned off.

We have a sibling type relationship where there’s a comfortable friendly existence, but there’s no mutual attraction. We still hug, laugh and hold hands, so our DC see what would be considered a happy relationship, A kiss is a peck on the cheek, which is sad as he’s an amazing kisser in years gone by 🤦🏼‍♀️ Mainly though I don’t want to live without my amazing DC 50% if we split so I have made an activity decision to continue with the current set up of living together full time whilst our DC are young.

Thankfully we have a holiday home that I’m planning to spend most of my time at when I’m older…without my husband! Then I’ll come back to our main house for family visits and Christmas etc. I’m also planning to hire a handsome gardener for a wild affair in my 60s. At that point I wouldn’t care if my husband knew either 😂

Please leave him. Even if it's when your kids are older, properly leave him and find someone who adores you. We all deserve that.

TeaWithPaddington · 28/08/2022 09:20

Same story here. Coupled with a ten year age gap (him older) our marriage drifted into a sexless one very quickly. I was naive and inexperienced when we got together. Also, my parents divorced when I was 8 so I'd probably never been exposed to what a true relationship should look, and be, like.

Sex had always been very vanilla and boring (I wasn't stimulated in any way by him and I should never, ever have married him). I do have some sort of love for him but I was, obviously, not 'in love' with him. We lived like brother and sister. We had 2 children (2nd conceived artificially, even though tests showed nothing wrong with us).

I spent most of my marriage 'missing something' but carried on with my career, raising the children and making sure my mum was ok. Yes, it kept me busy, but years later I started to realise that things weren't right.

I wasn't attracted to him sexually. It took me a while to realise that. I felt that I should be and that it was my duty to be attracted to him etc. I think I'd been swept away by him in other areas (he took me away from the council estate I grew up on - mind you, I was on track to do that myself). He was never complimentary towards me either even though other men were, and still are!!He was hypercritical of me, if anything. There was no level of intimacy between us (and, even when there was years ago, it was hardly inspiring). No kissing. No hand-holding. No passion. Nothing. At the end, even a meal out was met with silence and both of us staring into space. No connection. Like a pp said - it was corrosive and soul destroying. I actually, now, well up when I see couples holding hands walking along the street! He was happy to live like that, I guess.

However, I'd accepted it and knew we had a good, secure financial future...but without love/intimacy/affection/desire.

But, life had another plan. Things dramatically changed for me after my mother died and I went through a bad period at work. I also, unbeknown to me at the time, had hit menopause very suddenly at 45. Although, I didn't realise at the time - as I thought my periods stopping had been brought on by work pressures - my whole life was turned upside down. I became extremely unhappy in my marriage (less tolerant and wanted to be on my own a lot) and started to realise that other parts of the marriage were missing - not just sex/intimacy. I also went through the sex surge of menopause (that no-one told me about) and ended up seeking out male attention (and, ultimately, sex and intimacy). Yes, wrong, but I know now why I did it. I became very close to another man who is still in my life to this day.

I went through a lot of soul searching for a couple of years. I felt guilty for feeling the way I did and knew my children would be affected. However, I was also deeply affected and was continuing to be so. I'd been with someone else (wrong in itself) who is/was as passionate as I am and we connect on many levels (yes, we are still in touch by phone etc. but he is also married and in an sexless relationship). I know it was wrong!! We met a few times and have remained in close contact for years. We have agreed not to meet again although it is pretty clear the chemistry between us still remains high to this day. It was never meant to happen but did.

I spoke to my GP and a counsellor in confidence. Both said my marriage was dead. My GP said it was affecting my entire life - which it was - and that I needed to do something. I did. He didn't take it well. I live with the guilt of ending a 23 year marriage with a kind, nice man but he was a man who lacked affection and was cold in lots of ways. And, I felt neglected and unloved. I have been wondering a lot if he has gay tendencies. There is something. He was 36 when I married him and living at home with his parents. Only ever had one, short term, girlfriend. Never saw him interested in other women (on tv, for example), never had him cuddle me from behind etc. But, the biggest decider for me was the fact he had never, not once, verbally said that he loved me. He had never complimented me on my appearance or on my success in my career. He had sat back and let me push forward in mine (hard work) while he just reaped the benefits (staying at the same entry level job he'd got at 22).

I was dying inside. Another man awoke something in me (not just on a sexual level either) and my biggest regret is that I have lived in a sexless/no intimacy marriage for many years. Life pushed me in a different direction and forced me to wake up and take stock. I had to act. I filed for divorce after 23 years of marriage. I hadn't been with anyone else prior to marriage.

I have no regrets but, perhaps, should have done something to end it sooner.

Do not continue to live like this if you are posting here asking for advice. Deep down, you know you are unhappy.

Blowyourowntrumpet · 28/08/2022 09:23

If you're both happy with the situation, then it's fine.

germsandcoffee · 28/08/2022 09:36

In my opinion no but it depends on the individuals.
I chose to stay with my relationship but I do have a fwb who fulfils my needs. However I know some people would frown at this.

Bumpsadaisie · 28/08/2022 09:39

ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 01:17

Been with dp almost 20 years and we love each other very much. However we have a none existent sex life. I love him so much but am not in love with him l ( and I suspect he feels the same) I feel almost too close to him for sex if that makes sense l, like I see him like my family and it feels weird. I do feel attracted to other guys ( although I am not a cheat and would never go there) we have 2 dc that were conceived on the rare occasions we did it ( birthdays). He never asks me for sex so I assume he feels the same, I walk around the house naked a lot and he never looks up or bothers. He makes negative comments about my body after kids but never compliments me so I assume he doesn't fancy me anymore but I know he loves me. He tells me he loves me and couldn't be without me and I feel the same about him but there's no spark is this ok?

I was struck by how many times you used the word "assume" - sounds like you and your DH have never actually spoken frankly about this.

I think it's unusual to be married and never have sex and you both must know this even if you don't talk about it?

ChewyWombatStew · 28/08/2022 09:58

Op you said you don’t want to have sex with him as he almost feels like family, like you are too close to him. He doesn’t want to have sex with you, so you are on the same page.
I think sexless marriages can work if both people feel the same way. Some people have high sex drives and can’t contemplate a life without it, there’s many more where it is not at all important and they could happily never have sex again. There’s no right or wrong, if you’re both happy how things are crack on, don’t feel like you have to conform to society’s expectations.

Meseekslookatme · 28/08/2022 10:02

No.
Unless you are both happy with it, it will not work.
If he wants it and you don't, be prepared for him to get fed up and leave.

ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 12:32

We have been together a long time and care so much for each other. We have been through so much together. We have 2 dc a house, we are a family and that's how I see him "family". I don't want sex with him because this is how I see him. I have in the relationship found myself attracted to other guys that I can imagine being intimate with and it's like torture sometime wanting other people ( and I feel so increasingly guilty for this and beat myself up about it) my dp is a good guy and so good looking too and I feel he deserves better. I never want to hurt him. I would never cheat and never have but even feeling this way makes me feel guilty. I suppose I've decided to stay because to me having someone I completely trust and otherwise have a great bond with and have lots in common with ( someone I can grow old with) is more important than the intimacy. I suppose I'm accepting something is missing but it's just so hard sometimes.

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NuffSaidSam · 28/08/2022 12:39

As with all things, it's fine as long as both parties are happy with it.

Not everyone wants or needs sex. Not everyone wants or needs physical intimacy. That's completely fine. Just like wanting lots of sex is fine. Or wanting some sex is fine. Or wanting some types of sex but not others is fine.

It's not fine for him to be making negative comments about your body though. And it's not fine that you're clearly not happy with the situation.

I would seek out some counseling to see if you can overcome your 'he's family and therefore I can't have sex with him' feelings.

SavoirFlair · 28/08/2022 12:51

A previous poster wrote:

he was a man who lacked affection and was cold in lots of ways. And, I felt neglected and unloved.

I am genuinely sad to hear that.

I have been wondering a lot if he has gay tendencies

bloody hell this again? The third separate poster who has jumped to this conclusion on this thread?

Fellow women of Mumsnet, I have a public service announcement for you.

if your man doesn’t fancy you, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t fancy all women or any women, and is therefore GAY.

Gay people are not cold and asexual, hiding in the shadows of a heterosexual relationship dreaming of freedom.

HTH.

Sparklesocks · 28/08/2022 12:52

It’s a very individual thing. Some couples are not interested in sex with each other and will happily share their lives without physical intimacy. For others it’s a dealbreaker and not a long term possibility. As others have said, sex is not the be all and end all - but it is important to a lot of people and can bring you closer through intimacy. You need to understand how important it is for you, and if you could be happy without it.

Him making negative comments about your body though is very nasty and a separate issue.

ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 12:56

I tried to ask him recently about things and how he sees the relationship. There are other issues too so I wanted to see how he felt. I can never tell him I don't see him in that way. I tried to a few years ago and he didn't take that well and I ended up having to take it back for feeling awful, it's like something you don't wanna admit. He says he loves me and wouldn't ever wanna see me with anyone else. I'm scared to push too much as I feel it will result in him just saying we should have sex. Which is not what I want. The other issues are that we were not on the same page when it came to children. I wanted children and he didn't. We talked about it a lot and I couldn't not have children, so he agreed to them ( after many years of being together). But he never helps me with them and is happy to let me do all the work. When I work full time too. My kids are very young and it is quite hard but he doesn't do much to help. When I ask him he uses the fact that he didn't want kids and I did as a get out of jail card. I don't know if iabu to expect help when he was clear from the start that kids are not for him. I did think that he'd change his tune when they were born and when he agreed to have kids he actually meant he agreed to have them as in actually help etc. I waited years and would never have gone ahead of he didn't agree so I think he needs to take some responsibility. He doesn't do much as a family with us and admits he is very selfish ( which he thinks by admitting it it's ok then). He always says we should do more as a couple, but I don't feel it's because he wants to spend time with just me I feel he just can't be bothered to take the kids. He gets home from work when they are going to bed and has his mum have them most of the time at the weekend whilst I'm at work. On family holidays we all stuff as a family but in the evenings when we go to the fair/ arcades etc he just goes off to the gym and leaves us to it. He then appears when it's time for the kids to go to bed, for us to go on a night out( family come and take the kids). He says these things are not his thing. We argue a lot over this and we just go round in circles. I guess i resent him a lot for not helping or wanting to be a dad. Where as now he feels he is being " punished for giving me what I want" his words. This has led to a decline in our sex life as this is not attractive to me at all. Didn't really wanna post all this as it's becoming more and more outing.

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SavoirFlair · 28/08/2022 13:00

ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 12:56

I tried to ask him recently about things and how he sees the relationship. There are other issues too so I wanted to see how he felt. I can never tell him I don't see him in that way. I tried to a few years ago and he didn't take that well and I ended up having to take it back for feeling awful, it's like something you don't wanna admit. He says he loves me and wouldn't ever wanna see me with anyone else. I'm scared to push too much as I feel it will result in him just saying we should have sex. Which is not what I want. The other issues are that we were not on the same page when it came to children. I wanted children and he didn't. We talked about it a lot and I couldn't not have children, so he agreed to them ( after many years of being together). But he never helps me with them and is happy to let me do all the work. When I work full time too. My kids are very young and it is quite hard but he doesn't do much to help. When I ask him he uses the fact that he didn't want kids and I did as a get out of jail card. I don't know if iabu to expect help when he was clear from the start that kids are not for him. I did think that he'd change his tune when they were born and when he agreed to have kids he actually meant he agreed to have them as in actually help etc. I waited years and would never have gone ahead of he didn't agree so I think he needs to take some responsibility. He doesn't do much as a family with us and admits he is very selfish ( which he thinks by admitting it it's ok then). He always says we should do more as a couple, but I don't feel it's because he wants to spend time with just me I feel he just can't be bothered to take the kids. He gets home from work when they are going to bed and has his mum have them most of the time at the weekend whilst I'm at work. On family holidays we all stuff as a family but in the evenings when we go to the fair/ arcades etc he just goes off to the gym and leaves us to it. He then appears when it's time for the kids to go to bed, for us to go on a night out( family come and take the kids). He says these things are not his thing. We argue a lot over this and we just go round in circles. I guess i resent him a lot for not helping or wanting to be a dad. Where as now he feels he is being " punished for giving me what I want" his words. This has led to a decline in our sex life as this is not attractive to me at all. Didn't really wanna post all this as it's becoming more and more outing.

Didn't really wanna post all this as it's becoming more and more outing.

Not really @ilovealcohol , you’ll find plenty of these tales of woe on here

I do think however that after reading through that word forest, I managed to see the answers which you yourself have become aware of.

DCs are important to you - but you had them despite him not wanting them.

That moment (when he said he didn’t want them) was probably the moment you two should have parted. Because now he’s an inert object in a world where you need help. And you’re a buzzing individual doing things away from his centre of interest .

which leaves two people becoming emotionally more isolated.

No sex likely there, etc.

I don’t know what else to say other than all the answers you need are in that post you wrote.

UniAdmissions · 28/08/2022 13:35

If he's very into fitness/muscles is there any chance that he takes steroids? They can zap a man's sex drive completely.

SavoirFlair · 28/08/2022 13:39

Reading this thread, I don’t think it’s the steroids.

ilovealcohol · 28/08/2022 13:44

UniAdmissions · 28/08/2022 13:35

If he's very into fitness/muscles is there any chance that he takes steroids? They can zap a man's sex drive completely.

I don't believe he's taken steroids. However he does put his body to the extreme with exercise and diet and reducing his calories etc a lot and I believe this in itself can also have the same effect on his sex drive. He is absolutely obsessed with the fitness. It takes over life

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