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Men holding hands in the Street

537 replies

girlfriend44 · 20/08/2022 20:00

Saw two men walking along hand in hand earlier and I admired their bravery and thought hope nobody starts on them.
Have seen women before but not men?
Do you think they were brave. Would you be scared for them if they were your sons?
Brave men. Perhaps it's something we will see more of in the future?

OP posts:
motheroftheyear95 · 20/08/2022 21:50

SunnyD44 · 20/08/2022 20:32

I’ve only seen it a couple of times and the men have all been 6ft+ and very muscley which says it all.

I personally don’t get why couples hold hands in public anyway but I definitely wouldn’t if I were a gay man because of the abuse that many of them would receive.

That says it all? What does that meen ???

Hobeau · 20/08/2022 21:52

YABU because it's a complete non-issue. My son is gay, and he can hold hands with whomever he likes.

On a different note, I am not gay and don't hold hands with my DP because we're not hand-holding types!

CareeringLi · 20/08/2022 21:52

That says it all? What does that meen ???

C'mon. Really with the wide eyes?

Big, muscly men are less likely to get beaten up.

That wasn't really a stretch, was it?

kateandme · 20/08/2022 21:53

dottypotter · 20/08/2022 21:36

I wish there was a like button on here.
The world is a horrible place.
Just because it might be generally more acceptable now to be gay dosent mean you aren't going to be abused when your out.

And it’s funny how those making these comments aren’t actually gay!

RenegadeMatron · 20/08/2022 21:53

motheroftheyear95 · 20/08/2022 21:50

That says it all? What does that meen ???

Are you genuinely struggling with this….? Confused

qpmz · 20/08/2022 21:54

Where do you live? Are same sex relationships banned?
Wouldn't even bat an eyelid here in London.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 21:57

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 20/08/2022 21:49

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest, in fact I'd think it was nice to see.
YANBU as in it would definitely be a brave thing to do round here though, it wouldn't be seen as "the norm."
Think some on this thread think we all live in places like London and Brighton 😕

IKR batshit ... I know several gay couples who've had much better experiences in living in small rural villages in Shropshire Staffordshire and Cheshire than they've had living in towns like Crewe Telford and Wolverhampton.

One same sex couple particularly close to me lives in a small rural village in the north Midlands which has 375 people, and they said it's the best place they've ever lived in their 12 years of living together ... It's the 5th place they've moved to, and the only place they've been truly accepted, and it's full of middle class white people some of who go to church.

When they lived in a city just an hour away (where you think it would be more accepting being a same sex couple.) they had rocks thrown at them, and they were spat at and had all kinds of horrible anti-gay stuff painted over the house.

Gay couples I know have had much better experiences in living in small rural villages in Shropshire Staffordshire and Cheshire then they've had living in towns like Crewe Telford and Wolverhampton.

Purely anecdotal I know, but still, it proves that you aren't going to be free of hate and vitriol as a gay couple because you live in LONDON - or any other big city!

FlorettaB · 20/08/2022 21:58

’I suggest you make some LGBTQ friends just to see how incredibly kind and generous of spirit they are.’

They’re gay not dolphins.

It’s really easy not to see homophobia if you’re straight just like it’s really easy not to see racism if you’re white - I don’t see it because, as a straight, white woman, it’s not aimed at me. No one is shouting homophobic or racist things at me or treating me differently because of my sexuality or skin.

It would be easy for men to say that it’s safe for women travelling alone on public transport at 10pm because they’ve never, personally, seen any being harassed. Just because they haven’t seen the women who have been harassed doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. They’re also unaware of how the fear of harassment makes us change our behaviour - they don’t know about the women who get lifts, rearrange their schedule just to avoid travelling late.

MrsJBaptiste · 20/08/2022 21:58

CandyLeBonBon · 20/08/2022 21:50

You sound massively homophobic op.

FFS, she absolutely does not.

It isn't common to see same sex couples holding hands when out and about and you'd be a fool not to notice that. You may see the odd one depending on where you live but it is not the norm which is such a shame.

My 15 year old has recently told us he's gay and it's awful to think that in 2022 homophobia is still rife in some areas.

IDreamOfTheMoors · 20/08/2022 21:59

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 21:34

Made me cringe hard too.

@IDreamOfTheMoors

I suggest you make some LGBTQ friends just to see how incredibly kind and generous of spirit they are. They’re extraordinary.

Their kindness and ability to accept others as they are would shock the people who don’t have the honour of knowing them. I was humbled when I first met them — I treasure them now because they’ve taught me so much about love and acceptance and strength and “live and let live.” My life would be less bright without them.

Bet most same sex couples/gay/lesbians were cringing at that. 'oooh but I have so many gay friends and I wubz them with all my heart. They're soooooo strong, and I'm soooo humbled in their presence' cringe Confused

Also agree that the OP is getting a hard time, and whilst she seems a little naive, I don't think there is any malice in her thread.

@WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps

#1 it’s actually a large a large organization in a large city, called ”The LGBTQ+ Alliance of ”*
#2 I spoke of my own experiences.
#3 What the LGBTQ people on this thread think, I can’t do anything about. I suspect they’ll see themselves in my words, though.
#4. I don’t give a rat’s ass about what you think, because I was truthful. The truth is my defense.
#5 I was supportive of that community. That surely bothers you - Guess you’d have preferred if I’d have trashed them.

PylaSheight · 20/08/2022 22:00

Jeez, all the posters who simply can't fathom that outside of their home towns and cities it might be unusual to see gay couples holding hands in public 🙄I've lived in small Conservative towns in the south west of England and the West Mids and I've never seen gay couples holding hands, and neither did I see it on my travels for that matter. So it's certainly not widespread or a common sight everywhere, which means plenty of other people won't have seen it. Does that mean they've never seen gay couples in public, or does that mean the gay couples didn't feel comfortable (for whatever reason) to hold hands or have PDA? I suspect it's the latter.

MichonnesBBF · 20/08/2022 22:02

kateandme · 20/08/2022 21:53

And it’s funny how those making these comments aren’t actually gay!

What's your point?

IDreamOfTheMoors · 20/08/2022 22:02

FlorettaB · 20/08/2022 21:58

’I suggest you make some LGBTQ friends just to see how incredibly kind and generous of spirit they are.’

They’re gay not dolphins.

It’s really easy not to see homophobia if you’re straight just like it’s really easy not to see racism if you’re white - I don’t see it because, as a straight, white woman, it’s not aimed at me. No one is shouting homophobic or racist things at me or treating me differently because of my sexuality or skin.

It would be easy for men to say that it’s safe for women travelling alone on public transport at 10pm because they’ve never, personally, seen any being harassed. Just because they haven’t seen the women who have been harassed doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen. They’re also unaware of how the fear of harassment makes us change our behaviour - they don’t know about the women who get lifts, rearrange their schedule just to avoid travelling late.

At our house we call this a 747.
Right over your head.

FlorettaB · 20/08/2022 22:03

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/pair-injured-homophobic-attack-south-bank-b1019750.html
Men on their way home from G-A-Y

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-62021798
Men attacked leaving a bar

EverydayIsPJday · 20/08/2022 22:03

Jesus I wouldn't even have noticed because why would I? It's fine. Surely they shouldn't give a toss if I was holding DHs hand either. I don't for the record because they are so fucking rough but that's a different issue....

So sad people out there think otherwise. Let people just be happy! Do we even need to label things 😵‍💫

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 22:04

@IDreamOfTheMoors

You need to stop now.

Pascaliisafrenchymathysyperson · 20/08/2022 22:06

No I don't see it very often .. which makes sad.. , considering the amount of gay couples I know..

I am 60'so it wasn't the 'norm' growing up ..

I say 'get out there and hold hands with ANYONE you love ❤️

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 22:06

CandyLeBonBon · 20/08/2022 21:50

You sound massively homophobic op.

LOL no she doesn't. Don't talk nonsense!

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 22:07

Pascaliisafrenchymathysyperson · 20/08/2022 22:06

No I don't see it very often .. which makes sad.. , considering the amount of gay couples I know..

I am 60'so it wasn't the 'norm' growing up ..

I say 'get out there and hold hands with ANYONE you love ❤️

Amen to that!!! 😎

Kite22 · 20/08/2022 22:07

Let's not pretend, that in most areas it's still rare to see openly gay men holding hands and that homophobia, against men especially, is still rife.

Sadly, I agree with this.
I don't know if people are really that naïve or are just virtue signalling, but it really isn't that easy in most places for two men to walk down the street showing affection

CanaryShoulderedThorn · 20/08/2022 22:08

My youngest son is gay.
Idreamofthemoors you wouldn't like him, he isn't a sweetheart at all, he's 6'3", butch and can more than hold his own without anyone's help.
I appreciate you are trying to help but really?? You "treasure" them! These are people, not shitzhus.

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 20/08/2022 22:08

Depends where you live. Most cities are fine these days. Sadly many of the Tory voting small towns are still riddled with hate filled idiots.

IDreamOfTheMoors · 20/08/2022 22:08

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@MingeofDeath

No, but at least I have friends.

IsThePopeCatholic · 20/08/2022 22:08

I live in London and see it a lot but I still think it’s brave. You never know when you might come across some Neanderthals looking for trouble.

Stripedbag101 · 20/08/2022 22:09

Where do you live OP?

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