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Why don't nhs night staff want you to sleep?

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ICaughtTonsillitisFromAFriendsKid · 19/08/2022 23:25

Sleep is a great healer.
So why is everything done to keep ward patients awake all night? (Well it feels that way)

In the day the wonderful staff are very kind, but overnight, why no whispering, at all? Not even stage whispering? I've just staggered out of bed trying not to rip out my cathetera and canula to pull the bible sheet curtain round a bit, but everyone else is left with curtains pushed back to the walls.

Everyone is so kind and happy to help, I don't even want to say anything, but I'm just exhausted, as are all of these very poorly ladies.

It seems the doctors are not too bad at whispering, I must concede.

OP posts:
Boofay · 20/08/2022 11:38

Mum told me that when she was in hospital after having me (mandatory week's stay back then) a nurse woke her up to see if she wanted some sleeping pills.

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:40

Dalint · 20/08/2022 11:32

Jesus Christ. Does anyone know that trainee nurses are prescribing heavy duty meds to psychiatric patients??????????????

😂😂😂
This has cracked me up!! Are you for real, @Dalint?!

Dalint · 20/08/2022 11:42

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:40

😂😂😂
This has cracked me up!! Are you for real, @Dalint?!

I will be questioning this with the NHS!

blinkingheckthisishard · 20/08/2022 11:44

@Dalint - you are showing your complete lack of knowledge of the healthcare profession once again. Of course student nurses can't prescribe. But highly trained nurses who have done (an incredibly hard) continuing professional development course can. So you can add that to your "what the hell do nurses do" list. And before you start spouting off further untrue remarks, all the research (of which there are hundreds of studies) show that non-medical prescribers are safer, more effective and have higher levels of patient satisfaction than their medical colleagues.

Whiskeypowers · 20/08/2022 11:45

JennieTheZebra · 20/08/2022 11:32

@Dalint
Why? Our most senior nurse practitioners are masters qualified and extremely experienced in mental health. Far far more so than a junior doctor. Nursing is way more complex than you seem to think it is.

Myself and others have already tried explaining this to the ostrich
don’t waste your time

according to them you would be taxed shoving a thermometer up someone!s arse

JennieTheZebra · 20/08/2022 11:45

@Dalint
what that student MH nurses learn medication management in preparation for a prescribed qualification? There’s really no need to panic.. we do know what we’re doing, you know 😂

www.healthcareconferencesuk.co.uk/conferences-masterclasses/nurse-prescribing-in-mental-health

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:46

@Dalint Student nurses do not prescribe medications. They can administer meds but only under supervision of a registered nurse. Some senior nurses do a nurse prescriber course in addition to their nursing qualification. These nurses can prescribe a variety of medications depending on their role and the area they work in. There’s really nothing to be alarmed about.

JennieTheZebra · 20/08/2022 11:47

@Whiskeypowers
I know, it’s just infuriating…

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:50

JennieTheZebra · 20/08/2022 11:47

@Whiskeypowers
I know, it’s just infuriating…

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when she “questions this with the NHS!” 😂

Fifife · 20/08/2022 11:50

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Whiskeypowers · 20/08/2022 11:50

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:50

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when she “questions this with the NHS!” 😂

Absolutely batshit

Fifife · 20/08/2022 11:51

I'm doing a master's for dual registration one of my modules is prescribing ready. Dalint will be having a fit 🤣😂

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Hira3 · 20/08/2022 11:52

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:50

I’d love to be a fly on the wall when she “questions this with the NHS!” 😂

Me to shes hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

allabouttheviews · 20/08/2022 11:53

Fifife · 20/08/2022 11:51

I'm doing a master's for dual registration one of my modules is prescribing ready. Dalint will be having a fit 🤣😂

I think you need to take a step back and pick up your brow mopper. Know your limits!! 😂

Swg · 20/08/2022 14:05

Dalint · 20/08/2022 10:34

I completely agree that people need to be thoughtful when speaking to colleagues and cluster care where possible. Promoting sleep is an important part of getting someone better. But the services provided by private hospitals and NHS is entirely different and private hospitals will always be much quieter at night.

Lol, a better class of patient? Don't make me laugh.

It’s not a better class of patient, it’s a different type of patient - and I say that as someone who has been a patient of both.

The nature of private care in the UK is that it’s almost entirely planned and scheduled work. Emergency stuff, unless you are very rich indeed, goes through the NHS and so does a lot of cancer care even for people who have private insurance. That means NHS patients are much more likely to be dying which changes treatment and care - even before money issues which are very much an ossue.

PipMumsnet · 20/08/2022 14:29

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mrsbyers · 20/08/2022 15:21

Earplugs

Battlecat98 · 20/08/2022 15:24

I did a long post but it got deleted not sure what I said wrong. Be great to know MNHQ as I was not rude just giving my experience as a nurse manager.

miserablecat · 20/08/2022 15:32

Please can people recommend what ear plugs to get. I sleep badly and sometimes I wear earplugs but honestly I think they only block out about 10% of noise!

ShaneTwane · 20/08/2022 15:39

Agreed op the NHS is appalling in it's care for the most part hence why many many hospitals are failing and Andy rated with cqc. It's really infuriating that some people believe you absolutely should not criticize your treatment by the NHS or it's staff ever because it's free doncha know!

It's not free. It's free at the point of use. Our taxes pay for it. It's not underfunded either contray to the popular belief that it is. It's badly run across nearly all trusts. It needs a massive overhaul and the money it receives needs using properly and not squandered as it is.

It is also bollocks that nurses cannot be quiet because of nightly observations. My dp had a major heart attack and ended up in intensive care and then critical care for a week on 24 hour monitoring hooked up to about 4 different things and having constant injections. The staff someone managed to be quiet at nights, they managed to do all the observations as quickly and quietly as possible to allow for sleep and we're very respectful. This was in a specialist NHS hospital so if they can deal with the most severe emergencies possible night after night being respectful I'm fairly certain every other hospital can have a stab at managing it.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 20/08/2022 15:45

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/08/2022 23:33

I’ve got so much respect for people who work in the nhs. However I do find it surprising that sleep isn’t prioritised a lot more.

I agree,it's really odd. It's the shouting and laughing at top volume while patients are trying to sleep that is so annoying. I've had extended stays in different hospitals and night staff are all the same.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 15:54

ShaneTwane · 20/08/2022 15:39

Agreed op the NHS is appalling in it's care for the most part hence why many many hospitals are failing and Andy rated with cqc. It's really infuriating that some people believe you absolutely should not criticize your treatment by the NHS or it's staff ever because it's free doncha know!

It's not free. It's free at the point of use. Our taxes pay for it. It's not underfunded either contray to the popular belief that it is. It's badly run across nearly all trusts. It needs a massive overhaul and the money it receives needs using properly and not squandered as it is.

It is also bollocks that nurses cannot be quiet because of nightly observations. My dp had a major heart attack and ended up in intensive care and then critical care for a week on 24 hour monitoring hooked up to about 4 different things and having constant injections. The staff someone managed to be quiet at nights, they managed to do all the observations as quickly and quietly as possible to allow for sleep and we're very respectful. This was in a specialist NHS hospital so if they can deal with the most severe emergencies possible night after night being respectful I'm fairly certain every other hospital can have a stab at managing it.

This. ^

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 15:54

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 20/08/2022 15:45

I agree,it's really odd. It's the shouting and laughing at top volume while patients are trying to sleep that is so annoying. I've had extended stays in different hospitals and night staff are all the same.

Agree. This was my experience too! No volume control or respect for the patients.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 20/08/2022 15:57

@Dalint

Foodbanks on £33K?

Yep, I don't buy this either.

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