Why don't nhs night staff want you to sleep?

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Sleep is a great healer.
So why is everything done to keep ward patients awake all night? (Well it feels that way)

In the day the wonderful staff are very kind, but overnight, why no whispering, at all? Not even stage whispering? I've just staggered out of bed trying not to rip out my cathetera and canula to pull the bible sheet curtain round a bit, but everyone else is left with curtains pushed back to the walls.

Everyone is so kind and happy to help, I don't even want to say anything, but I'm just exhausted, as are all of these very poorly ladies.

It seems the doctors are not too bad at whispering, I must concede.

Yes, very true.

Not just dementia. Inconsiderate people of all stripes.

I've had paramedics keep me alive on the journey to A&E and have resus doctors question their decision to give me oxygen en-route. I've had the comedy duo as I call them, keep me sane while the lady does the heavy lifting and the man fills in the paperwork (they're my favourite paramedics). They jokingly snipe at each other (for my benefit) about her having to do all the stuff while he sits back lol. They're brilliant. I've worried about paramedics carrying me down stairs (when the littlest one is usually stuck at the bottom of the chair thing). I absolutely 100% respect paramedics as they have saved my life on more occasions than is reasonable.

Where have you been the last two years?

yes nurses have been using food banks
several nhs trusts have even set up staff ones they’re so concerned

and stop being obtuse about pay. It’s embarrassing. Along with much of the cringeworthy guff you’re coming out with on here.

No it bloody isn't free, this is the biggest line of cobblers we've ever been spun. We all pay for it through our taxes, it's definitely not free!

😂😂😂You bloody overpaid nurses, with your basic first aid training need to stick to your lane. Know your role blah blah. After all, you are Band 1 you know.

Oh god I love lovely nurses like that. The ones who remind you of your mummy comforting you when you were 5 years old and sick in the night.

Because unfortunately they bleat on about person centred care but you can't do it in a busy ward. Everything has to be timed, staff might be too busy to give breakfast out at 10am. All tasks are allocated where I work for the whole 12.5 hour shift.

I'm not heavy either. 7 stone, wet. But I still worry about them as they go above and beyond.

Sorry "Daliant*

Who do you think does CPR in a care home/respite home before the paramedics get there ? We do we have oxygen and the equipment we don't just stand back and wait for the paramedics to arrive.

Yes, 24 from their area.

I'll take a stab at what I think it means to be a (ward) nurse from my observations. It means that you have to care for the most basic and more complex needs of many (in the dozens) of moderately unwell patients, communicate with (appease) many many dozen relatives, and liase with doctors and multi-disciplinary teams of long periods of care for every oen of these many patients, and not slip up and let any of your many patients die (unless that is what they are there for, although some relatives would still see their arses about that).

I (paramedic) on the other hand have to keep ONE often critically unwell patient alive, deal with ONE set of relatives and then handover my ONE patient (after several hours waiting outside A&E!!), close off my ONE job before going to a new patient and starting the cycle again.

I know which one I prefer, give me one really sick patient any day!!

@Dalint
I’m a student mental health nurse. One of the MH units I did a placement one was entirely nurse led. We independently assessed, diagnosed and prescribed heavy duty medication, like anti psychotics. Psychiatric oversight only in an emergency. What’s “nursing” again?

That terrifies me!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck?

Could I once again say that the nurses are LOVELY. Everyone is. It's just as said, some small bits that add up to make sleep elusive.

Everyone working here, even the noisy ones, absolutely deserves their money. I'm not in the business of splitting hairs over a few thousand.

My personal view is that television and media celebrities earn a LOT. 250k per year, Jeremy Vine? After World War 2, income tax banding went right up to 99% at the top end to try to raise money to repair the obliterated country. This sort of money could be diverted to a service like the NHS.

HOWEVER, the last time they did that, loads of celebrities just declared their tax domicile as abroad. Then we have tax havens etc.

Honestly, be a millionnaire, no problem, but over and above once you've got your ferrari, think of the bigger picture. As PP have pointed out, if private hospitals aren't as good on critical care, Mick Jagger/ Gary Lineker / any premier footballer who I cannot name 🤣 could find themselves in an nhs hospital.

The NHS is often cited as being quite wasteful. But for a committee-organised, huge organisation, with such a huge remit, and which absolutely everyone will call on at some time in their lives, it does really well, and I am incredibly pleased we have it.

The fact that I can lie here and winge about noise at night is of course me being pernickety, but it is important that we all strive for the best in all walks of life.
Last night after 1am was better with that lovely senior nurse, was only woken at 6 by the scary patient next to me shouting at me.

Jesus Christ. Does anyone know that trainee nurses are prescribing heavy duty meds to psychiatric patients??????????????

That is a very odd comparison op. I think you will find exam invigilators have to remain silent. I don't think you needed to take obs, administer medications, check on the students wellbeing, answer buzzers, care for a deteriorating student? All of which cannot be done in silence. All whilst exhausted as night shifts are absolutely horrendous and so bad for your health.

Really not the same thing.

@Dalint
Why? Our most senior nurse practitioners are masters qualified and extremely experienced in mental health. Far far more so than a junior doctor. Nursing is way more complex than you seem to think it is.

In other countries, critical care is not only provided by the national health service. That's a bit unique to the UK.

Oh @amoobaa im so sorry to hear that sorry my post triggered that feeling!

If it helps I felt like you, my experience in postnatal with DD was horrific, she’s 9 now and I’m still angry about it. So after having DS when DD was 3.5, I insisted on leaving the moment I felt up to it. They argued the toss but I explained I am not staying in this zoo (my few hours in postnatal made me realise things were worse not better) that whilst I couldn’t have my blood taken at 6am at home as planned I would come in for it because I wasn’t staying here. I was ready to discharge me and DS. The matron luckily was ok with it and I spent the first night of DS’s life in my own cosy bed eating Chinese and watching trashy TV. I REALLY had to argue for it though.

You said you're a student?

@Dalint
I said our unit diagnosed and prescribed. Sure, I was involved-medication management is a basic part of nurse training and I made some decisions myself, with oversight of course. The point is that nurses are involved in hugely more complex care than you seem to think we are. In MH in particular.

I've never heard of this.