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To think Jade Goody is actually quite pretty?

149 replies

LolaTheShowgirl · 21/01/2008 01:11

Because I do!

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VictorianSqualor · 21/01/2008 11:23

Or if Shilpa had been the kind of person to argue back with her in the same tone...

emjhill · 21/01/2008 11:26

here here loopy!
Jade got used as scapegoat like Victorian said, becasue it was classed as more "politicly correct" why is it you here some much more of a white person being rasist than any other person? likes its somehow more shocking?? When i was at school i was bullied for being white by 3 asian girls fro 3 YEARS non stop it was reported and report and reported to teh school by myself and other people and the min i turned round and said something back i was expelled!!! its all about playing th erace card 99% of teh time in my opinion

quincywincy · 21/01/2008 11:27

Wannabee I couldn't agree more. Nobody was outraged or helped me on a night out a few years ago, in a supposedly "nice" town when I wiped the stinging spittle from my eye as a charming young man let me know how offended he was with my choice of (black) husband by gobbing on me and calling me a Paki Lover (WTF?).

Sorry terribe spelling and grammar- din't feel too good today.

wannaBe · 21/01/2008 11:32

but loopy if big brother didn't get the viewers then it wouldn't be on, and the likes of Jade wouldn't be able to claim the status of celebrity.

It's the fact that people find it entertaining that a load of morons go into a house for three months, bicker and argue and shag and drink and then come out and expect to have careers that I find sad. And the more people watch these freak shows, the more freaks will go on them and will become celebrities at the end of it all.

lulumama · 21/01/2008 11:49

the racism angle has been argued to death.. IMO she was racist. telling her to go home, calling her shilpa poppadum, liek shetty is so hard to pronounce comments about the way Indian people eat.. the other two girls were appaling, just not quite as aggresive. white trash is deeply unpleasant too... but in the USA, it is not a racist term, but a descriptive one, the same way chav is used here.

as betterhalf said, it was the ugliness of her aggression that was the most foul thing about her behaviour, leaving aside what she actually said.

making pejorative comments about a persons culture and heritage is racist, no? 'go home' is so absolutely racist, it is just not even worth arguing about . IMO.

at the end of the day she is ignorant and holds repugnant view points, whether or not we agree they are racist.

lulumama · 21/01/2008 11:51

emjhill.. were you bullied because of your skin colour?

it must have been awful and frightening to have to endure that with no redress

bullying is inexcusable at any level

i absolutely accept that there can be racist black/ asian/ indian people. not just white people who can be racist. in this partic. instance it was a white person.

not that anyone is denying racism can be perpertrated by anyone of any skin colour etc.

emjhill · 21/01/2008 12:01

i think i was bullied because they just didnt like me!! however all the comments were to do with me being white! i really do feel this gets over looked so much!

Lulu its ok saying white trash isnt a rasist comment over in the usa but the comments where dealt with here not in the usa here it is offencive the same as there would be uproar if the word Nigger had been used to discribe jermain where as in the usa it would be not iyswim IMO they were both as bad as each other but if one isnt classed as a rasist then neither should be the other

lulumama · 21/01/2008 12:11

i think n*gger is accepted as a pejorative word here and in the USA.

it is a complex issue, at the end of the day neither jade nor the other two showed themsleves in a very edifying light.

VictorianSqualor · 21/01/2008 12:27

I think it's a hard one to call personally, There is a form of racism in Jades ignorance toward Shilpa, and I don't think she intended racism, but in some ways that can be worse than intended racist slurs, the ignorance can be more painful.

The same goes for the 'go home' comments, none of the were home, so she could have said to anyone to 'go home' and it wouldn't have been deemed racist. Especially as Shilpa went on and on about how she had never met people blah blah blah so it could have been meant 'go home back to those people then', whatever, we'll never know what went on in Jades head when she said it, but I still think the way she was hounded was just as bad, if not worse than anything she said.

Aitch · 21/01/2008 12:30

anyone who thinks that white trash is a racist term is either ignorant or pursuing their own agenda, imo.

personally i don't think that jade is explicitly a capital R Racist person, however she did inexcusably bully Shilpa Shetty and when doing so relied on racist stereotypes and insults.

which means that i think she behaved in a racist way. now as it happens i think that makes her racist, but it's not cast in stone, she could educate herself out of it. not that she appears to have done, though...

lulumama · 21/01/2008 12:47

you are right VS, the ignorance is painful

as for her hounding, well, you live by the meedja sword , you die by it.....

I have encountered too much casual/ ignorant racism to be able to say it does not matter.... zero tolerance is the only way to go i think

lulumama · 21/01/2008 12:48

not that i think that you think it does not matter..

Yummers · 21/01/2008 12:53

i think she looks a bit simple. not ugly on the outside just vacant looking.

not a nice person on the inside from what i can tell - shallow, self publicising and stupid. and has not one ounce of talent.

ruddynorah · 21/01/2008 12:54

no. i can only see her face gurning when she was screeching at shilpa on bb screaming 'good for yoooou..good for yooouuu!' vile. she has had a shitty upbringing, has a lot of anger, little in the way of education, and it shows on her face.

ilovesprouts · 22/02/2009 14:00

u lot who slagged a dying mum should be ashamed of your selfs it does not matter whats on the outside at the end of the day shes someones daughter/mother u make me sick talking about dying youg mum

compo · 22/02/2009 14:02

er, she wasn't dying when this thread was started a year ago
why did you dredge it up, just to cause trouble?

lockets · 22/02/2009 14:07

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southeastastra · 22/02/2009 14:11

didn't you read the date the thread was started?

loopy

CoteDAzur · 22/02/2009 14:11

What a moronic thing to do. Search "jade goody", don't notice the thread is over a year old, then attack people who have criticised her because NOW she is a "dying mum".

Get a hobby. Or learn how to write & punctuate. Both are better uses of your time.

ilovesprouts · 22/02/2009 14:14

no am not ashamed ive not long joined mn and iwas reading this thread and gave my opinon its a free country so u can eeeeew all u want to its tasteless to go on about ppl in this way so no am not ashamed !!!!!

wannaBe · 22/02/2009 14:14

hmmm. I do think that bringing it back up makes a point though.

Some of the same people on this thread are the same ones who are now weeping on the other threads.

FrannyandZooey · 22/02/2009 14:16

you've got to admit though it is interesting to see how public attitudes towards her have changed in a year

similar if you look at press coverage of diana in week before her death - she was really getting criticised

marg1066 · 22/02/2009 14:16

Have none of you that have slagged Jade off ever made a wrong decision about a man or any said something you would regret? Were all human its just she is in the public eye.
I hope Jade,Jack,Freddie, Bobby and all the family have a great wedding day.
Anyone wanting to call her greedy for asking for the money, other stars do it, she is doing it for her boys future if it was me I'd milk it for every penny.

Lulumama · 22/02/2009 14:17

oh for goodness sakes

i am appalled and horrified she is dying. it is a tragedy

but dragging up a year old thread to tell people they ought to be ashamed of themselves helps no-one and does nothing positive

people still thikn the worst of Ms Goody, there are websites out there devoted to slagging her off.... this thread was a discussion mostly about racism and the semantics of racism

the fact she is now dying has eff all to do with the content of this thread

it is purely an excuse for you to post and make yourself look better than others, in your moral superiority

ilovesprouts · 22/02/2009 14:18

no i did not notice it was a year old and what ive been reading anyway disgusts me end of

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