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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

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Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

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PlainJaneSuperBrain99 · 15/08/2022 17:13

What the fuck have I just read?! Total facepalm.

They are both using you: him as well as her. He does not respect you or care about you or your kids. your kids are your responsibility to safeguard. By letting this continue, you are jeopardising their happiness and wellbeing.

Get rid.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/08/2022 17:13

I’m considering asking him to leave tonight

Stop being such a doormat-get them out now, this second. I can’t understand why you would put up with this for even one day.

Stripyhoglets1 · 15/08/2022 17:15

Don't feel bad about ending it - you've done what you can and your Stbexp has massively taken advantage of you.

Enjoy the future peace and quiet with your children again when he's left.

Celticstranger · 15/08/2022 17:15

You are being bullied and taken for a ride.

hellcatspangle · 15/08/2022 17:16

I have no idea why you got involved with all these kids that aren't even his, you need to put a stop to it now. If he wants contact with them he can go and take them out for the day and leave you out of the equation, this situation has got way out of hand. You need to put your own kid's needs first.

Thinkingblonde · 15/08/2022 17:18

Tell him to leave or find somewhere else to accommodate them. Or present him with a bill for repairs to your home and see his reaction . Put your own kids first, ahead of anyone else including an adult male who is walking all over you.

Ergh · 15/08/2022 17:18

Ishacoco · 15/08/2022 17:01

What will you say if he says ok, the children won't come round any more, can I stay?

He’s said that before so will be a no. I don’t think there’s a way around this now apart from just cutting ties, I’ve tried every option and nothing’s worked and now my children were hurt yesterday. Will only be a matter of time until they’re begging me to ‘try’ again. What if they punch my kids next? Not worth it. I don’t know why I asked if this was salvageable, i know it’s not 😞

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converseandjeans · 15/08/2022 17:18

Hope it goes ok asking him to leave. Lots of men seem to move onto a new partner and then assume they will take on the 'wife work' when the kids come for contact.

It's out of order for them to assume you will pay for things like holidays & days out & also do all the cooking & tidying up.

If the 4 children are at yours every weekend and they also see their biological Dad then when does the Mum actually parent them?

I can't personally see the attraction of a partner with multiple children and debts to pay off. He must be great in bed 😉

Tophy124 · 15/08/2022 17:18

They need to leave, partner included.

Please protect your children. Being assaulted in their own home and verbally abused is not ok. I also couldn’t stay with someone who allowed everyone’s opinions to go above mine. I think you know they are using you and this is awful. You will feel so much better without all this stress.

MeridianB · 15/08/2022 17:19

We're all here for you, OP, willing you on.

Prepare yourself for his list of reasons why he can't/won't go and be strong. If you let him con you into staying even for one more night, he will work on you with false promises. Is it possible to leave his stuff outside and bolt the door? Agree you should also change the locks.

10HailMarys · 15/08/2022 17:19

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:49

You think after this I want more kids? 😂
yes I’ve made a mistake but it’s getting fixed. Will always regret this, my children say they’re fine but I’m not fine with them being hurt and seeing this sort of behaviour. It would effect them.

@Ergh To be fair to you, when you first entered into the arrangement you didn't know how it was going to turn out. You thought your DP's children were coming for access visits, which is pretty normal (apart from three of them not actually being his children, but it was really nice of you to treat them as if they were). You absolutely did not know you were going to the one left to look after them, discipline them, manage their behaviour, arrange all their weekend activities and pay for everything while your DP left you to it and his ex enjoyed her 'child-free weekends', and of course you didn't know that the three older children were going to behave the way they did. What you did was agree to try out what on the face of it sounded like a civilised arrangement that was inclusive to all the kids involved - and gradually it turned into something else and by then it was a longstanding thing that was harder to stop. It's the 'boiling a frog' analogy, isn't it? Drop a frog into hot water and it jumps out immediately, but drop a frog into cold water and heat the water up slowly and it will stay put because the discomfort is building incrementally.

I'm sure your children know that you would never have put them through anything like this on purpose. You sound like a lovely mum and your kids sound great too.

Mumspair1 · 15/08/2022 17:20

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VioletInsolence · 15/08/2022 17:21

You're letting children not related to yourself or your partner abuse your children and trash your house? Children who will never care about you.

You're going to have a really terrible life if you don't toughen up.

momtoboys · 15/08/2022 17:23

This is absolute insanity. Why in the world would your partners ex be able to run your household? If he agrees with her or doesn't want to stand up to her then he needs to leave. As in NOW. This cannot go on for another weekend. This may be one of the worst parenting issues I have read on Mumsnet.

bewilderedhedgehog · 15/08/2022 17:26

OP so sorry you are in this situation, but you have a clear plan - hats off to you. It's difficult but you've got this. Please come back here for more support as you need. You will be relieved (as well as sad) when you wake up tomorrow.

Imissmoominmama · 15/08/2022 17:28

This is one of the weirdest set ups I’ve ever heard of. Keep strong tonight OP.

I bet, in the weeks to come, your kids will tell you how relieved they are that they’ve gone.

ItWasJustifiedHeWasACunt · 15/08/2022 17:29

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Notanotherwindow · 15/08/2022 17:29

God he saw you coming didn't he?

Fucking get rid of him and his ill mannered brats.

That shit would not fly in this house and I'm not particularly precious about the house.

forrestgreen · 15/08/2022 17:30

His ex is mugging you off
He is mugging you off
His kids are mugging you off

There's a theme!
They ALL see you as ££ a home and childcare.

There's too many people involved who are treating you badly for anything to change. Sorry!

Ergh · 15/08/2022 17:32

Just waiting for him to get home. I don’t feel bad about ending it because I told him I would end it if the kids weren’t sorted out and now my own have been injured.
The severity of the injury doesn’t matter. But just so people know the facts, the kid went straight home and I kept mine away from them. He hasn’t been back, I wouldn’t of allowed it or would have gone out I was just saying that they agreed he could still come over which I find disgusting as if my kids did that they would not be getting privileges! Scratches now but what next, biting? headbutts? I think I just needed to vent. obviously it’s over and we won’t have to deal with this again.
Those worrying about him leaving, he’s the most gentle man I’ve ever met. Which is probably a big part of this parenting issue. He’s done a lot for me and my children but he hasn’t sorted this which is the only thing I actually needed help with so how much can he really care? The ex will kick off but i have a block button 😂

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Shinyandnew1 · 15/08/2022 17:34

they agreed he could still come over

…but nobody can agree to people coming in your house if you say no?

CaveMum · 15/08/2022 17:35

Well done in the plan to get rid of him, just make sure you follow through with it. He’s an adult he can sort himself out, don’t let him try to extend things by pleading for a week or two to sort himself out. If he doesn’t agree to leave immediately call the police - he has no rights to remain in your home.

Once he has gone you need to change the locks straight away to prevent his return. Then, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, you need to work on yourself. Your boundaries are obviously off so you need to work on reestablishing them and avoid any new relationships until you are in a mentally stronger place.

Good luck.

SunnyD44 · 15/08/2022 17:36

You need to stay single for a while until you are able to maintain boundaries.

If you do get into another relationship then don’t let them move in.

A partner is meant to enhance your life and make it easier.
Not make it more difficult.

Were you the OW?
How long was it after you met him that he moved in?

I’m struggling to understand how anyone would allow this situation to even happen.

TrashyPanda · 15/08/2022 17:37

Best wishes
you are making the right decision.

these children behave like anti-social demons

notapizzaeater · 15/08/2022 17:38

Your children will remember this that you took no shit and dealt with it.