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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
neverbeenskiing · 15/08/2022 16:54

Sorry, but you really have been stupid to even get into this situation.

Not helpful. RTFT, OP has repeatedly stated that she now realises she shouldn't have allowed this situation to happen and she's giving the cocklodger his marching orders tonight. She's already beating herself up, she doesn't need anyone else kicking her when she's down.

autienotnaughty · 15/08/2022 16:55

I'm all for treating kids equally etc but no this is too much and dp is not supporting or respecting you. Hope your ok

hewouldwouldnthe · 15/08/2022 16:55

Fuck him and the whole lot off and live normally. Are you a complete mug for doing this as you are certainly being treated as one?

Bonjovispjs · 15/08/2022 16:56

Good for you OP, stay strong, you've got this.

jeaux90 · 15/08/2022 16:56

Give him notice and a date by which to leave. Time to protect your kids.

The only thing you are guilty of is letting him move in, but I'm sure you had no clue what you were in for! The rest of it is on him.

I'm a single mum and our lives can be challenging at times but my god are they peaceful when you don't have a useless partner around.

I hope it goes well and you get your peace back, you and your kids are the priority.

SunnyD44 · 15/08/2022 16:57

How long have you been together?

Was he with anyone before you?

I bet once you kick him out he’ll find someone else to take advantage of.

Hungryharriet · 15/08/2022 16:58

Ergh · 15/08/2022 16:34

Can’t reply to everyone individually but I fully admit I’ve been a mug, doormat etc etc.

My kids are fine, like I said in a previous update they enjoyed the extra company at first and I felt bad for her kids which is why I bothered to try and help the parents with parenting skills/advice that they should of implemented years ago.

First sign of violence, kid was out my house and hasn’t returned. It’s the way it’s being dealt with that finally made me reach out on here as I was made to feel like I was splitting up kids and being an awful person for putting mine first. It’s all about her kids being including and feeling happy with no consideration to mine.

Yes I’ve been a mug and ultimately let my kids down which I am deeply ashamed of. I feel sick reading some of the comments but they are right. I took care of them for 10 years alone and we had the best life now we have this chaos. Shouldn’t of allowed it from the start but it’s ending tonight before anything further happens. They’re all being cut off.

Well done, please stick to it and make sure they all stay out of your life. You deserve so much better than this.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2022 16:58

I felt bad for her kids which is why I bothered to try and help the parents with parenting skills/advice that they should of implemented years ago

It's only natural to feel for the kids, but whole departments have been there before you offering support with parenting skills, and with too many it makes no difference at all because the only "help" they want is for someone else to do their job for them

Like PPs I'm glad you've decided to end this, but I also agree he won't go willingly or without an ugly scene. Personally I wouldn't discuss it too much and risk opening up a route for excuses and pleading - I'd just tell him to go and take his chaos with him

Ishacoco · 15/08/2022 17:01

What will you say if he says ok, the children won't come round any more, can I stay?

Ergh · 15/08/2022 17:01

neverbeenskiing · 15/08/2022 16:54

Sorry, but you really have been stupid to even get into this situation.

Not helpful. RTFT, OP has repeatedly stated that she now realises she shouldn't have allowed this situation to happen and she's giving the cocklodger his marching orders tonight. She's already beating herself up, she doesn't need anyone else kicking her when she's down.

It’s true though. Let my emotional side which is obviously stunted lead the way into this. I’m deffo smart enough to learn from this though.

OP posts:
Twawmyarse · 15/08/2022 17:01

Just to echo others - Yes you are being a total mug.

I can't believe some of the shit I'm hearing on here - do these men just get worse and worse or what?

And there is always a willing woman waiting in the wings happy to facilitate it.

GettinPiggyWithIt · 15/08/2022 17:04

I CANNOT believe that you put your children through this

You’re a bloody awful parent if you don’t kick them all out today.

Campervangirl · 15/08/2022 17:05

Your op was shocking to read but good for you for now taking action, give yourself a break, don't beat yourself up, chuck him out and move on.
Update us when you've done it ❤️

Italianmamami · 15/08/2022 17:05

You are definitely not being unreasonable and have gone out of your way to cater to children that aren’t yours. Kid free weekend? They are her kids to look after. I’d tell your partner you aren’t paying for them anymore and when they come over leave him in the house with them and go and have a nice day with your children. Once he puts up with the feral tribe for the day he may have a different opinion

SizzlingAwayIntheHotSun · 15/08/2022 17:06

So glad you have decided to give him his marching orders, don't beat yourself up, you are rectifying the problem and will have your home back soon without this dreadful chaos.

Sittingonabench · 15/08/2022 17:07

You’re doing the right thing by putting yourself and kids first. You have been taken advantage of and yes you let it go on longer than it should have but don’t waste energy on regret! Figure out why you let it happen (because it made your kids happy, because it made your partner happy and because a big happy family is what you wanted the situation to be - you’ve done an amazing thing and under different circumstances with different kids it may have paid off - but not this time). If it does effect your kids use it to teach them how difficult it is to recognise being taken advantage of and the importance of boundaries - they will have similar with boyfriends/girlfriends in their future.

Unattainablepeace · 15/08/2022 17:08

Why on God's earth would you do this to your children? Sorry but you need to kick them all out. Sounds like you've got a classic cock lodger on your hands and he'll have you upduffed soon if you're not careful. Get rid whilst you've no ties.
As for the finances. You're basically spending your children's money on these kids, money that could be used to help them in the future.

lisers · 15/08/2022 17:09

Stop being a mug. Tell your partner to move out and stop having anything to do with his ex's children.

jeaux90 · 15/08/2022 17:09

It will be a massive relief when this is all over and the chaos stops. You and your kids will be a lot happier and safer. I'd be so raging at the damage!

Whitney168 · 15/08/2022 17:10

Tell the lot of them to piss off and not come back, particularly your partner!

WhoWants2Know · 15/08/2022 17:10

This is going to sound awful, but I feel like it's important to say anyway.

For whatever reason, your sense of boundaries is not functioning. Your partner has not put up appropriate boundaries either. (Maybe he also struggles to set boundaries or maybe he sensed a soft touch.)

Either way, the situation is not to be trusted. For that reason, you need to double down on making sure you put your children's best interest first. If your partner is living with you and is in debt, is he contributing to his household costs? Or is he costing money in food and utilities that should be benefiting your children? The only reason to have him under your roof is if you BOTH are better off as a result.

I get that you aren't planning kids with your partner. But in your kids best interest, you need to double down there too. Don't leave birth control to him, take precautions of your own as well.

OldFan · 15/08/2022 17:10

YANBU @Ergh , he's obnoxious expecting you to pay for them and routinely leaving you with them alone.

Definitely separate him, stay strong and don't get back with him.

Fluffyboo · 15/08/2022 17:11

OP, you made a mistake but it was all with good intention. You've given it a chance and clearly it doesn't work for you and your children in your house, so don't feel guilty about putting all of you first - you are doing the right thing

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2022 17:11

I’d tell your partner you aren’t paying for them anymore and when they come over leave him in the house with them and go and have a nice day with your children

I really wouldn't recommend this since OP's said the children already steal, and in effect the OH's stealing from her and her own children too

If they realise the bank of OP is now shut, what's to stop them making the most of her absence to take what they can while they can?

User57327259 · 15/08/2022 17:12

Change the locks and dont let the partner (cocklodging chancer) in your house ever again

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