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AIBU to not want to provide for other peoples abusive children

413 replies

Ergh · 15/08/2022 15:24

Sorry about the long post, I’ve left so much out too but I really need advice if this is salvageable or not.

Partner moved in last year with me and my children. His ex partner has 4 children with only 1 being biologically his (others see their real dad and don’t call my partner dad etc he only lived with them for 2 years as he worked away) however we wanted to include them all so they all started to stay over and although manic, for the first weekend, we had fun. But, it’s just gone downhill from there.

Even though I work full time I am struggling to afford all these children as it all comes from my pocket - partner’s ex got him in debt and kicked him out with nothing (another story) but he’s working hard to fix this. So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no. Not only am I expected to foot the bill of my utilities and food bills going through the roof and days out being tripled in cost,
i am more upset with the way his/her kids treat us especially when I’ve invited them into my home.

I’ve had them for 2 weeks this summer. I booked a holiday for all of us the first week and as soon as we got home I was met with such distain and rudeness with the activities expected to continue. I had a few days out planned for the rest of their time with us but I couldn’t afford everyday. Days I had planned stuff my own kids were interested in were completely ruined by the others screaming, shouting, fighting and climbing all over everything. They demanded that I took them to places and were rude if I said no. I kitted out my house and garden for them prior to them staying so they wouldn’t be bored but they just fight over everything.

My house has hundreds of pounds worth of damage now and my own children have been physically abused to the point blood was drawn. I have said that the main 2 responsible should not be allowed in my home until this is addressed but after him and ex talked they’re still coming over anyway. She doesn’t want to split up the kids and refused contact to his bio son unless we have them all. She said she NEEDS her kid free weekends. I have mine and hers every weekend and haven’t complained. Until now.

We have had to work on all their behaviour from the start as they are allowed free reign at home, never said no to and mum blames everything else or mental illness’s for their behaviour. Whatever we do here is not followed up at home so I’m ready to give up. I’m really worried about my children now because I work a lot during the week we only had the weekends to have fun which I don’t even get to speak to them now because I’m dealing with my partners kids making sure they’re not fighting or breaking things constantly. It’s exhausting. (Kids are 8,10, 11 & 12 for context with youngest being my partners only bio child) Mum doesn’t mind her house being trashed and furniture ruined with the whole ‘kids will be kids’ mentality. So they’ve never been taught to respect peoples property. They will literally wipe their hands on my walls and furniture instead of washing them and throw food and wrappers on the floor and steal things. I can repaint but I can’t replace expensive things like the sofa, Nintendo and trampoline they’ve broken 😭 she has told us that their behaviour at my house is not her responsibility so if they misbehave, break something or hurt someone here we can discipline them but she won’t be following up when they come home because if they get their electronics taken off them for example it makes her life hard.

I have begged my partner that If the rules of my home can’t be followed (the rules are basically don’t fight, pick up after yourself etc, so nothing draconian) then why should I allow them over? I don’t mind treating them occasionally but I can’t do every weekend it’s killing us. He says he’s trying but it’s me doing everything, trying to figure out how to fix their awful behaviour, planning everything, cooking meals, paying, watching them etc.

I feel like I’ve made a huge mistake and am being used as a daycare and for money. I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans and have been hit in the face myself when I’ve asked one to stop misbehaving. I haven’t had to deal with this with my own so I do not know how to handle stuff like that. I treat them all the same so they don’t feel left out and I feel like I’ve being completely naive that they would appreciate that by being nice to me and my children. That’s literally all I want.

AIBU to not want this and feel like it’s not my responsibility or am I evil for not wanting to include all the kids? I tried too! I’m so tired I don’t know who’s in the right here or what’s going on anymore 😩 I love my partner very much but I love my kids more so I’m considering asking him to leave tonight so we don’t have to have our home and lives taken over by his kids anymore.

OP posts:
Meraas · 15/08/2022 17:39

Just waiting for him to get home. I don’t feel bad about ending it because I told him I would end it if the kids weren’t sorted out and now my own have been injured.

Yes, OP! Well done. Do update us afterwards Flowers

GG1986 · 15/08/2022 17:39

This is a ridiculous situation. None of the kids are yours!! And only one is your partners. Tell your partner if he doesn't sort this out then you are breaking up with him, i would not be putting up with this.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/08/2022 17:44

Those worrying about him leaving, he’s the most gentle man I’ve ever met

In theory that's good to hear, but he can no doubt afford to be "gentle" while everything's going his way ... once it isn't, do be aware you may see a very different side to him

Aroundandaroundagain3 · 15/08/2022 17:46

I really admire your determination to get shot of the lot of them as soon as one of your children were hurt.

I have some experience not too dissimilar to yours, although the kids are my DH's bio kids so a bit trickier to navigate.

Let us know how you get on. All the best.

ChristinaXYZ · 15/08/2022 17:47

Put your kids first! Get rid of your bloke and the other kids. You have to put your kids first OP. No other way round it. It is a horrible situation and I really feel for you. But it is your house, your rules and it is not for your partner and ex to decide who is coming to your house and being with your kids. You cannot expect your kids to put up with it a moment longer.

Blowthemandown · 15/08/2022 17:51

10HailMarys · 15/08/2022 17:19

@Ergh To be fair to you, when you first entered into the arrangement you didn't know how it was going to turn out. You thought your DP's children were coming for access visits, which is pretty normal (apart from three of them not actually being his children, but it was really nice of you to treat them as if they were). You absolutely did not know you were going to the one left to look after them, discipline them, manage their behaviour, arrange all their weekend activities and pay for everything while your DP left you to it and his ex enjoyed her 'child-free weekends', and of course you didn't know that the three older children were going to behave the way they did. What you did was agree to try out what on the face of it sounded like a civilised arrangement that was inclusive to all the kids involved - and gradually it turned into something else and by then it was a longstanding thing that was harder to stop. It's the 'boiling a frog' analogy, isn't it? Drop a frog into hot water and it jumps out immediately, but drop a frog into cold water and heat the water up slowly and it will stay put because the discomfort is building incrementally.

I'm sure your children know that you would never have put them through anything like this on purpose. You sound like a lovely mum and your kids sound great too.

@Ergh sorry it’s come to this, as poster above said it is understandable. You did more than anyone could reasonably expect. I hope you are ok and manage to get rid. Do not feel guilty - he let his kids (and ‘her’ kids down) and so did she. Not you. Good luck.

Kbr22 · 15/08/2022 17:52

Please let us all know that you and your children are ok, thinking of you.

Xenia · 15/08/2022 17:52

Well done to end it with him. Also make sure physically it follows through - no - I need time to find somewhere - h e can move to an air bnb or a relative's floor tonight with all his stuff and then you change the locks immediately so he cannot get back in.

Poppyblush · 15/08/2022 17:52

Get rid of them all, especially your dh.

Shinyandnew1 · 15/08/2022 17:52

I’m regularly left alone with them while partner has work or plans

What ‘plans’ has he got whilst 4 children he’s responsible for are round?!

FOJN · 15/08/2022 17:55

Those worrying about him leaving, he’s the most gentle man I’ve ever met. Which is probably a big part of this parenting issue. He’s done a lot for me and my children but he hasn’t sorted this which is the only thing I actually needed help with so how much can he really care?

His partner got him into debt (which you are now indirectly paying by subsidising him) and he can't stop children he's not the father of coming to your house. There is a certain type of man who comes across as kind and likeable but in actual fact they are lazy and ineffectual. Their troubles are all of someone else's making, they behave as if they have no agency but they just wants quiet life without adult responsibilities. My dad was one of them, liked by everyone, kind to me but absolutely fucking useless.

Don't be deceived, he's an adult quite capable of being master of his own destiny, it's just easier for him not to be.

KnockedInn · 15/08/2022 17:57

"So I asked to maybe have them a little less and was told no"

THIS!

This should remain the opposite of how things go from this moment forward! They can ask, and you can tell. And if, "get lost," is what you're telling, then good for you. It's been a long time coming. Stick to your guns op. Your house, your money, your children - your choices. 💯

KentuckyDerbyandJoan · 15/08/2022 18:00

Georgeskitchen · 15/08/2022 15:29

This is absolutely crazy. Your partner and his ex are taking the piss massively. Don't let this carry on. Pack your partners bags now and tell him to leave. Please don't be used as a free nanny/doormat for one more moment

This. Put your own children first and get rid of this man.

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 15/08/2022 18:04

How the hell did you not know more about them all before you moved him in? All the introductions, negotiations, accommodations and so on need to be out of the way months or years before you even consider allowing a man to move in to your children d home.

TheRealKatnissEverdeen · 15/08/2022 18:07

@FOJN you've summed up something for me also - I've been struggling to correlate nice with lazy and useless. Same sort of father also.
I usually just read these types of posts without commenting but OP, hope you can reclaim a peaceful home for you and your children.

lamaze1 · 15/08/2022 18:14

"... that they agreed he could still come over..." talk about bloody entitled. Him and his ex have the cheek to dictate to you what happens in your home!

Snowpaw · 15/08/2022 18:15

I just...can't fathom how life became this way for you. You have no children with this man, yet you let 4 children (many of whom are not even related to your partner) run amok in your house, disrupting your own children's lives in the process. And you take them on holiday!! And you take your orders from his ex! Your own children are your number 1 priority - always. Draw your boundaries.

I couldn't even imagine letting a bf move into my house with my own child, let alone 4 children who aren't related to me.

DixonD · 15/08/2022 18:15

You’re not a mug OP. You did something nice for someone else’s children. You sound like you would have made a lovely, welcoming stepparent. It’s their loss.

Good luck tonight. What a shame it has to end because of their parenting incompetence.

SudocremOnEverything · 15/08/2022 18:15

My STBXH says things about how he ‘just wants to be nice to everyone’. Except that means letting the SC do whatever they like, always pandering to their mother and not giving a fuck about how it affects anyone else. Me in particular. It’s never about being nice to me or even being grateful to me for doing anything.

And that is why we’re getting divorced. Once we’d split up and he actually had to do the work and deal with his DC, turns out he’s unwilling to put up with all the shit he expected me to. And blamed me for being unhappy about. Just ridiculous.

You never know this crap til they’ve moved in. They know how to hide the dysfunction until you’re all in and they think your stuck.

@Ergh is not stuck. So she should definitely draw a clear line under it tonight!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL · 15/08/2022 18:18

Glad you've ended it, do not let him back in!

StaunchMomma · 15/08/2022 18:20

Sorry if this comes across as harsh OP, but I think you need to hear it...

YOU ARE BEING A MONUMENTAL DOORMATT AND, EVEN WORSE, PRIORITISING YOUR DP'S KIDS, SOME OF THEM NOT EVEN HIS OWN, OVER YOUR OWN CHILDREN. And why?! FOR A MAN!!!!!

Christ, HOW can you not see how much this takes the piss?!! And to allow your kids to be abused in your own home, whilst paying for the privilege and watching them wreck your stuff?!!

Jeeeezus, OP!

DisforDarkChocolate · 15/08/2022 18:25

He needs to move out.

This is going to cause long-term damage to your children's mental health if you don't do it quickly. They deserve better.

Goldpaw · 15/08/2022 18:25

Good to hear he's leaving tonight.

Don't let him persuade you otherwise, and stay strong.

Doidontimmm · 15/08/2022 18:25

@StaunchMomma you should read the OPs last update!!

Mumspair1 · 15/08/2022 18:28

notapizzaeater · 15/08/2022 17:38

Your children will remember this that you took no shit and dealt with it.

Or that she allowed this to happen and escalate in the first place. Op needs a massive wake up. You behaved like a doormat, your ex and his ex saw you coming. Don't do this to your children again, very very wrong of you to put them in this position!!